United States Election: Nov. 8, 2016 |OT| Hate Trumps Love

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Seriously WTF lol? Him not sticking to his guns really makes me doubt his methods. The one real worry I have is the black vote in North Carolina looks like it's down 6% in early voting due to voter suppression/Obama not being on he ticket. Just want it to be an early night. Can't take this stress anymore.

haha Silver isn't sitting at his computer moving a slider to change the percentages. It's a model and it changes based off of polls. Maybe this election is showing his model could be considered flawed, but it's not about him "sticking to his guns" or not. Whatever the final percent chance of winning is out of his hands.
 
A liberal SCOTUS won't be taking anyone's guns, but they will be enablers who will let Madigan, Cuomo, and Brown do so.

I note, again, that you dodge the whole "humanity" part of the conversation. But that's not a shocker.

So are Madigan et al going to go door to door to do the deed? Will there be UN blue helmets helping them? Black helicopters? Or will we gun owners be expected to turn our pieces in at the designated drop-off locations?

Paint for us how this would work, logistically speaking.
 
Do I have to register my guns with Hillary's green police? Or will they just be going door to door tomorrow night?

I heard from my Facebook that she's going to executive order them to be melted down, and the metal will be used for welfare Queen's Cadillacs, and el caminos for illegal aliens.
 
I note, again, that you dodge the whole "humanity" part of the conversation. But that's not a shocker.

So are Madigan et al going to go door to door to do the deed? Will there be UN blue helmets helping them? Black helicopters? Or will we gun owners be expected to turn our pieces in at the designated drop-off locations?

Paint for us how this would work, logistically speaking.

Such a non argument.
 
A liberal SCOTUS won't be taking anyone's guns, but they will be enablers who will let Madigan, Cuomo, and Brown do so.

This isn't happening and you know it isn't happening. At least be honest about why you support fascism/literal torture of people you claim to also identify with.
 
Do I have to register my guns with Hillary's green police? Or will they just be going door to door tomorrow night?

Please, her server chief will just execute the code built into every gun that instantly disables it. Oh, you didn't know every gun has been wifi enabled since 1999? What did you think those deleted emails were about?
 
Please, her server chief will just execute the code built into every gun that instantly disables it. Oh, you didn't know every gun has been wifi enabled since 1999? What did you think those deleted emails were about?

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Depends.

If they end up with 51 seats, they'll refuse to hold hearings for another four years. (plz)

If they end up at 50 seats, it will depend on how confident they are that they can filibuster a confirmation vote for two years.

If they end up with 49 seats, they'll confirm him.

So you support Congress holding the US Supreme Court hostage, and also putting partisan demagoguery over functioning government?

And you also support what a Republican Supreme Court would do - repealing LGBT marriage, Roe V. Wade, etc...?

I guess I'm not surprised you support Trump.

Please, her server chief will just execute the code built into every gun that instantly disables it. Oh, you didn't know every gun has been wifi enabled since 1999? What did you think those deleted emails were about?

 
You all should know better then confronting the posters out to get people riled up. There is a reason why these individuals have pretending to flip between third party and Trump.

(Ive been guilty of getting baited too)
 
Conservatives been screaming Obama was gonna take their guns for the last eight years.

Guess who signed the NFA act of 1986 into law and supported the assault weapons ban?

Ronald McGoddamnReagan

Dems come up with some really stupid and useless gun legislation, but when it comes to laws that have significantly damaged the rights of gun owners, republicans are in a class of their own.
 
Do I have to register my guns with Hillary's green police? Or will they just be going door to door tomorrow night?

I heard from my Facebook that she's going to executive order them to be melted down, and the metal will be used for welfare Queen's Cadillacs, and el caminos for illegal aliens.

She gone bleach the guns away, homie..
 
haha Silver isn't sitting at his computer moving a slider to change the percentages. It's a model and it changes based off of polls. Maybe this election is showing his model could be considered flawed, but it's not about him "sticking to his guns" or not. Whatever the final percent chance of winning is out of his hands.

But have the polls really changed in Nevada since yesterday? They look the exact same to me as Sunday but all the early voting reports by Jon Ralston kept being shoved in his face now it conveniently turns light blue? Seems fishy to me.
 
A few projections as of 2:17 PM EST:

538 - 68.3%
Princeton Election Consortium - > 99%
NYT Upshot - 84%
DailyKos - 88%
 
There's a guy in my office who is going to legit meltdown when Hillary wins. He's also my boss so I'm kind of dreading coming into work Wednesday.
 
If Hillary is rebounding from Comey's bullshit, I kinda wonder if Senate Dems are as well. But there isn't as much Senate polling as far as Presidential polling, so we don't get as good a feel for where momentum is going.

It's possible. It does look like Hillary's numbers have rebounded in a big way over the last 24 hours or so. I don't know how reliable these numbers are though. I feel like it would be incredibly weird for Hillary to win comfortably and the Dems not take the senate but hey, strangers things have happened.
 
No way. Everything we know about the breakdown of the early vote indicates strongly otherwise.

Could it be that most early voters were from blue counties? It could be skewing numbers, no?

Still, I hope that the huge amount of Latinos make themselves heard in Florida.
 
No way. Everything we know about the breakdown of the early vote indicates strongly otherwise.

Just remember that White voter turnout is almost almost one million voters higher as well. Obviously we don't have full demographic breakdowns but I refuse to be calm about Florida, North Carolina, and Florida because of early voting.

https://twitter.com/ElectProject/status/795647694903644160?ref_src=twsrc^tfw
FL #earlyvote Race change vs 2012 via @electionsmith
Afr-Am +70.6K (+9.2%)
Hisp +453.8K (+86.9%)
White +900K (+27.2%)
Other +121.5K (+48.3%)
 
The electoral college actually makes more states matter. Nobody would campaign in Maine, New Hampshire, Nebraska or even states like Wisconsin otherwise.

States matter, not people. See the difference there? Nominees can campaign wherever they want, but at least everyone's vote would mean the same thing. Even in states that are currently die hard red or blue, if you vote for the other candidate then your vote doesn't matter. If the EC didn't exist, then everyone who voted would be equally as important. Why shouldn't that be the case?
 
Just remember that White voter turnout is almost almost one million voters higher as well. Obviously we don't have full demographic breakdowns but I refuse to be calm about Florida, North Carolina, and Florida because of early voting.

https://twitter.com/ElectProject/status/795647694903644160?ref_src=twsrc^tfw
FL #earlyvote Race change vs 2012 via @electionsmith
Afr-Am +70.6K (+9.2%)
Hisp +453.8K (+86.9%)
White +900K (+27.2%)
Other +121.5K (+48.3%)
The numbers are quite encouraging, though. Per the politics thread:
Miami-Dade already has 760k votes....the total vote in Miami-Dade in 2012 was 889k.

Steve Schale thinks Miami-Dade will hit >1mn turnout. All of that, nearly all of that will be padding her margin.

Similar story for Broward.

Similar story for Orange County.

The raw R vote in Miami, Broward, Palm Beach and Orange County is basically static.

It's straight up murder happening in Florida right now.
 
Such a non argument.

I don't think my line of questioning is at all unreasonable. He claims his gun rights will be threatened; I'm asking for precisely how.

If all that can be offered in response is pot-shots or platitudes (or conspicuous evasion of the question), then that can speak for itself.
 
Pre-Saturday early voting in FL, Mook said they thought they are 170k ahead. This was before Southern Florida and the major counties yet again broke turnout records on the Sunday.

She's got a 3pt lead with 6.4m early votes done. Expecting 9.5m turnout. He will need to win Election day big to overcome that. She's on track for a 300k raw vote win. All per Steve Schale.
 
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