United States Election: Nov. 8, 2016 |OT| Hate Trumps Love

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Steel

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duxstar said:
What in the actual fuck do I say to that, A man I once thought of as smart, and educated sent that to me, like what is the fucking point in sending me that, to prove to me that you are so far fucking gone that I will never talk to you again ? .
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I'd send the following:

"You're basing your vote on honesty? Really? http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/lists/people/comparing-hillary-clinton-donald-trump-truth-o-met/"
 
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EatinOlives

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duxstar said:
My dad sent me, my brother, my sister, and my step brothers and sister's this text message tonight; this is a Man I once viewed as smart.

"I want to share my thoughts with each of you on the eve of the national election, which I truly believe will decide the fate of our nation. I realize that's a bit dramatic but it's what I believe. I am not telling you any of you how you should vote, particularly if you have a strong conviction one way or the other. I will be voting for Donald Trump because I believe your future and that of your children are at stake. To be clear, I believe Clinton would assure the destruction of the country and it's principles as we know it, namely our constitutional freedoms. Obama has done great harm to our country, and I believe she would continue on this path. I realize you may not agree, but she has proven to be untrue about things that really matter. While I would be happy to discuss my belief's with you, I'm not trying to be clever to sway you from your vote to the person I am voting for. I don't wish to argue politic's with anyone either; I just want you to know in my heart that I believe your future and the future of our country is on the line. If you do choose to vote for him, have the courage to share your views with others without jeopardizing your friendships. If you vote differently maybe you'll be proven right, but I believe otherwise. I felt I would be remiss if i didn't share my thoughts with you regarding what I believe is one of our last opportunities to correct the course of our nation. I love all of you and I believe your future is on the ballot. God Bless you all and God Bless the United States of America.

Which in the group message was followed by other people Saying

"Trump All the way"

"Trump it up"

"Trump 2016"



What in the actual fuck do I say to that, A man I once thought of as smart, and educated sent that to me, like what is the fucking point in sending me that, to prove to me that you are so far fucking gone that I will never talk to you again ? We have already had a tepid relationship in the past, and I just have nothing to say to this. There's so many things I wanted to say, just respond with answers like "Like what things has obama done that has destroyed the country ? What Horrible things has Clinton done ? What do you honestly think she will do? What in the world is wrong with you, have you listened to Donald Trump speak and honestly think of him as an intelligent man worthy of the spot of PRESIDENT of the united states ?

I called my mom and she told me to just let it go, and normally i don't care about politics (they are separated). Not to mention the fact that my sister is Also voting Trump, and my brother is voting Gary Johnson, because he doesn't like either of the candidates. I don't know what's going on, it's like I feel my family is just on a completely different level than I am, and not in the good way. I even live in upstate New York, and and completely surrounded by Trump supporters that all feel like he's going to take their guns away.

I am just so frustrated right now, and I NEVER get upset about politic's, this is the first time in my life I've honestly even taken more than a glance at it in these very forums. I'm just so ...... disappointed in the people around me.
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If nothing else just drop the bomb and watch the fireworks fly. No rant, no intro, no nothing. Just three simple words.

"I'm with her"
 
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eggandI

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duxtar people were saying the same exact shit about Obama back in 2008. They were fuming at the mouth about Obama and how he was going to destroy the country. Those kind of arguments don't come from reason, they come from pure irrational emotion. You can't convince someone by using logic and facts when they never used any of those things to get to their current views in the first place.

Your mother was right. The best thing you can do is just to let it go.
 
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xxracerxx

Don't worry, I'll vouch for them.
Auto_aim1 said:
Aww

https://twitter.com/cspan/status/795818670404550657
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That is adorable as all hell.

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Kthulhu

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duxstar said:
My dad sent me, my brother, my sister, and my step brothers and sister's this text message tonight; this is a Man I once viewed as smart.

"I want to share my thoughts with each of you on the eve of the national election, which I truly believe will decide the fate of our nation. I realize that's a bit dramatic but it's what I believe. I am not telling you any of you how you should vote, particularly if you have a strong conviction one way or the other. I will be voting for Donald Trump because I believe your future and that of your children are at stake. To be clear, I believe Clinton would assure the destruction of the country and it's principles as we know it, namely our constitutional freedoms. Obama has done great harm to our country, and I believe she would continue on this path. I realize you may not agree, but she has proven to be untrue about things that really matter. While I would be happy to discuss my belief's with you, I'm not trying to be clever to sway you from your vote to the person I am voting for. I don't wish to argue politic's with anyone either; I just want you to know in my heart that I believe your future and the future of our country is on the line. If you do choose to vote for him, have the courage to share your views with others without jeopardizing your friendships. If you vote differently maybe you'll be proven right, but I believe otherwise. I felt I would be remiss if i didn't share my thoughts with you regarding what I believe is one of our last opportunities to correct the course of our nation. I love all of you and I believe your future is on the ballot. God Bless you all and God Bless the United States of America.

Which in the group message was followed by other people Saying

"Trump All the way"

"Trump it up"

"Trump 2016"



What in the actual fuck do I say to that, A man I once thought of as smart, and educated sent that to me, like what is the fucking point in sending me that, to prove to me that you are so far fucking gone that I will never talk to you again ? We have already had a tepid relationship in the past, and I just have nothing to say to this. There's so many things I wanted to say, just respond with answers like "Like what things has obama done that has destroyed the country ? What Horrible things has Clinton done ? What do you honestly think she will do? What in the world is wrong with you, have you listened to Donald Trump speak and honestly think of him as an intelligent man worthy of the spot of PRESIDENT of the united states ?

I called my mom and she told me to just let it go, and normally i don't care about politics (they are separated). Not to mention the fact that my sister is Also voting Trump, and my brother is voting Gary Johnson, because he doesn't like either of the candidates. I don't know what's going on, it's like I feel my family is just on a completely different level than I am, and not in the good way. I even live in upstate New York, and and completely surrounded by Trump supporters that all feel like he's going to take their guns away.

I am just so frustrated right now, and I NEVER get upset about politic's, this is the first time in my life I've honestly even taken more than a glance at it in these very forums. I'm just so ...... disappointed in the people around me.
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Don't worry man. You'll get used to it like I did. You'll just end up dreading Thanksgiving every year.
 
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Snarfington

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duxstar said:
My dad sent me, my brother, my sister, and my step brothers and sister's this text message tonight; this is a Man I once viewed as smart.

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My Dad voted leave in the EU referendum. As did everyone else in my close family. I would have bet money on the exact opposite happening even moments before it came from their mouths. I understand completely, it's just very weird to realise these people you seem to know and respect suddenly have these views that are so diametrically opposed to yours.

I dealt with it by remembering that you can't just block everyone out who thinks differently to you. Your situation is worse than mine because this deals with issues of racism (let's pretend for a minute Brexit isn't hahaha), sexism and all the isms I can't think of, but I understand how you feel.

It's tough but they're still the same people today as they were yesterday and they probably will be tomorrow. Your opinion of them has changed but they haven't, you can still co-exist at the very least.

EDIT: oh yeah, this too.

WiiredShawn said:
This is the same reason I avoid talking politics with my family.
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You'll get used to that one.
 
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Korey

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duxstar said:
My dad sent me, my brother, my sister, and my step brothers and sister's this text message tonight; this is a Man I once viewed as smart.

"I want to share my thoughts with each of you on the eve of the national election, which I truly believe will decide the fate of our nation. I realize that's a bit dramatic but it's what I believe. I am not telling you any of you how you should vote, particularly if you have a strong conviction one way or the other. I will be voting for Donald Trump because I believe your future and that of your children are at stake. To be clear, I believe Clinton would assure the destruction of the country and it's principles as we know it, namely our constitutional freedoms. Obama has done great harm to our country, and I believe she would continue on this path. I realize you may not agree, but she has proven to be untrue about things that really matter. While I would be happy to discuss my belief's with you, I'm not trying to be clever to sway you from your vote to the person I am voting for. I don't wish to argue politic's with anyone either; I just want you to know in my heart that I believe your future and the future of our country is on the line. If you do choose to vote for him, have the courage to share your views with others without jeopardizing your friendships. If you vote differently maybe you'll be proven right, but I believe otherwise. I felt I would be remiss if i didn't share my thoughts with you regarding what I believe is one of our last opportunities to correct the course of our nation. I love all of you and I believe your future is on the ballot. God Bless you all and God Bless the United States of America.

Which in the group message was followed by other people Saying

"Trump All the way"

"Trump it up"

"Trump 2016"



What in the actual fuck do I say to that, A man I once thought of as smart, and educated sent that to me, like what is the fucking point in sending me that, to prove to me that you are so far fucking gone that I will never talk to you again ? We have already had a tepid relationship in the past, and I just have nothing to say to this. There's so many things I wanted to say, just respond with answers like "Like what things has obama done that has destroyed the country ? What Horrible things has Clinton done ? What do you honestly think she will do? What in the world is wrong with you, have you listened to Donald Trump speak and honestly think of him as an intelligent man worthy of the spot of PRESIDENT of the united states ?

I called my mom and she told me to just let it go, and normally i don't care about politics (they are separated). Not to mention the fact that my sister is Also voting Trump, and my brother is voting Gary Johnson, because he doesn't like either of the candidates. I don't know what's going on, it's like I feel my family is just on a completely different level than I am, and not in the good way. I even live in upstate New York, and and completely surrounded by Trump supporters that all feel like he's going to take their guns away.

I am just so frustrated right now, and I NEVER get upset about politic's, this is the first time in my life I've honestly even taken more than a glance at it in these very forums. I'm just so ...... disappointed in the people around me.
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"Guess I'm cancelling out your vote, then."
 
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I shared it earlier on the main poligaf thread but I think I should share it here as well.. Just my thoughts I posted on FB earlier triggered by looking at my post exactly 4 years ago..

Four years ago, I wrote a post here urging everyone regardless of party affiliation or preference in candidate to get out and vote. To do your civic duty that comes along only once every 2 years and stand in line for a few hours if necessary and cast your vote for whom ever you preferred. It is what makes our democracy great. Today I sit here behind my keyboard looking at that post and thinking how I just couldn’t write the same thing again. In that election, while I did not agree with the policies presented by Mitt Romney and I believe it would regress our country in regards to various issues, I did find comfort in knowing that at his core he was a good person that simply believed differently than I did. My conversations with republicans back then revolved around policies, and how x policy position was better than y. Where did that type of educated discussion go?

I have lived in the continental US for a total of about 8 years throughout my 38 years on this earth. I have met and spoken to people of various ideologies, religions, ethnicities, and nationalities. As all of you know I am Puerto Rican and therefore Latino. Born and raised in the island, but unlike a lot of Puerto Ricans I had access to above standard education as well as being able to travel to the continental US on various occasions on vacation or due to my father’s job. This allowed me to learn English in such a way that it truly became not just my second language but could be interchanged as my primary language. It gave me the ability to have no accent when I spoke English. It’s a little thing, right? At least it should be? Well it’s not. On countless occasions just living my normal life here in the states I have encountered the stigma of being Latino in this country. You start a conversation at a bar, they don’t know you are Latino so you talk it up for a while. Later, they ask you your name, and well you say it. Then there’s this momentary pause, a subtle tilt in some people’s demeanor that you just see and feel. Some people just look at Latinos a tad bit differently. It gets worse if you are speaking Spanish at a restaurant, or at a public location and you get some weird looks from some people. Hell, I’ve even had some drunken idiots ask me to stop speaking Spanish and speak American (is that even a language) because I am not in my banana republic. Maybe it’s because of the Puerto Rican migration to NY in the 50s, where it was lower income class workers that migrated over and didn’t set the best impression forward of what Puerto Ricans are. But like I said, I am lucky. I had a great education and Caucasian complexion that has allowed me to “conceal” that Latino heritage to move my life forward as just another American, other Latinos are not so lucky. Other Latinos struggle with that stigma daily, just like most minorities in this country do. Even with that stigma we still believe in The American Dream, the dream that if you work hard and dream big good things happen. We keep our head down, and continue to fight the good fight to move our families and our futures forward.

A little over a year ago Mr. Trump descended from his palace in Trump Tower and decided to paint with a broad brush Mexican Americans as “rapist, child molesters and drug dealers”. What Mr. Trump was too stupid to realize was that he sent out a rallying cry to what is worst in America. He just mentioned Mexicans but what he has done is throw a blanket with that statement over all Latinos. I know because I am a Latino and I felt like he was attacking me just as much as he was attacking our Mexican brothers. Maybe at the end of the day it is a good thing, maybe this is what Latino Americans needed to wake up and take notice, to unify and make our voices heard in the ballot box. We are already seeing record turnout for Latinos in the early voting, and I am a firm believer that we will deliver FL to HRC.

Now look, I understand some of you have reservations about Hillary, some of you may even believe that she is a liar, a crook, another career politician, etc… I think you are 100% wrong on the first two but to each his own. However, is that enough of a reason to hand the reigns of this country over to a man who has no policies to speak of, demeans women, the handicapped, African Americans, Latinos, gold star parents, and anyone who doesn’t agree with him? A man who believes in committing war crimes, a man that said regarding nuclear weapons “If we have them, why can't we use them?”. The list goes on and on. Seriously take a step back and simply think about this. Just give us this one and try again in 4 years. This is not the person you want to be your President. If this man is elected President we will need to explain to our children just how we let it happen. Do you think this guy is going to spend late nights going over policy briefs to better understand our nation’s problems? He boasts about not preparing for debates which are THE JOB INTERVIEW!!!!! We made the mistake of demonizing McCain and Romney to an extent (although Sarah Palin COME ON!!) and now we may have pushed the right to nominate exactly what we most feared. Don’t elect a man simply because of the fear he has pushed on you. All his campaign has been focused on fear of immigrants, fear of Muslims, fear of everything. I have yet to see a single positive message come out of his campaign.

This country is built on being a melting pot of not just people but ideas. People of different backgrounds and in some cases cultures coming together under one flag to live their lives in prosperity and happiness. I am living my American Dream right now, and so are countless other Americans. Don’t let our country get pushed back decades. We want marriage equality to stay, we believe that no one should intrude into a woman’s body and make decisions for her, we believe in Freedom of the Press, we believe in separation of powers, we believe that the office of the President shouldn’t be used to punish the opposition, we believe above everything else that TRUTH should be above all else in this country. America is Great because we believe in these things. Don’t let the politics of fear sway you from this belief.

To all my Republican friends out there, I am begging you don’t drink his Kool-Aid, it’s not worth it. Take a mulligan and wait 4 more years and nominate a sane candidate and not one that is simply unfit for the highest office in this country. From your perspective Hillary at worst is 4 more years of Obama, so the world is not going to end. With Trump at worst (nuclear weapons) “If we have them, why can't we use them?”.

See you on the other side of this election.
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I didn't think an election would matter to me as much as the 2008 election mattered. How wrong I was...
 
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hokahey

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I think it's going to be extremely close. It might even take a day or two to call. I am a poll junkie and have been since 2000. I think Hillary has a solid chance of losing Ohio, FL, NV, PA, NC and NH. And it terrifies me. This is far from being in the bag. Mark my words.
 
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mstevens

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hokahey said:
I think it's going to be extremely close. It might even take a day or two to call. I am a poll junkie and have been since 2000. I think Hillary has a solid chance of losing Ohio, FL, NV, PA, NC and NH. And it terrifies me. This is far from being in the bag. Mark my words.
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I'm with you. My sheets will be soaked tonight.
 
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Memento_Mori15

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Even though I live in a different country now, I'm a bit worried about the elections.

I have to wait until tomorrow morning to know if you guys fucked up or not....don't fuck up guys.
 
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Bam Bam Baklava

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hokahey said:
I think it's going to be extremely close. It might even take a day or two to call. I am a poll junkie and have been since 2000. I think Hillary has a solid chance of losing Ohio, FL, NV, PA, NC and NH. And it terrifies me. This is far from being in the bag. Mark my words.
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What makes your word any more valid than people like Nate Silver, Sam Wang, Larry Sabato, Stu Rothenberg, and Nate Cohn?
 
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ginger ninja

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duxstar said:
My dad sent me, my brother, my sister, and my step brothers and sister's this text message tonight; this is a Man I once viewed as smart.

"I want to share my thoughts with each of you on the eve of the national election, which I truly believe will decide the fate of our nation. I realize that's a bit dramatic but it's what I believe. I am not telling you any of you how you should vote, particularly if you have a strong conviction one way or the other. I will be voting for Donald Trump because I believe your future and that of your children are at stake. To be clear, I believe Clinton would assure the destruction of the country and it's principles as we know it, namely our constitutional freedoms. Obama has done great harm to our country, and I believe she would continue on this path. I realize you may not agree, but she has proven to be untrue about things that really matter. While I would be happy to discuss my belief's with you, I'm not trying to be clever to sway you from your vote to the person I am voting for. I don't wish to argue politic's with anyone either; I just want you to know in my heart that I believe your future and the future of our country is on the line. If you do choose to vote for him, have the courage to share your views with others without jeopardizing your friendships. If you vote differently maybe you'll be proven right, but I believe otherwise. I felt I would be remiss if i didn't share my thoughts with you regarding what I believe is one of our last opportunities to correct the course of our nation. I love all of you and I believe your future is on the ballot. God Bless you all and God Bless the United States of America.

Which in the group message was followed by other people Saying

"Trump All the way"

"Trump it up"

"Trump 2016"



What in the actual fuck do I say to that, A man I once thought of as smart, and educated sent that to me, like what is the fucking point in sending me that, to prove to me that you are so far fucking gone that I will never talk to you again ? We have already had a tepid relationship in the past, and I just have nothing to say to this. There's so many things I wanted to say, just respond with answers like "Like what things has obama done that has destroyed the country ? What Horrible things has Clinton done ? What do you honestly think she will do? What in the world is wrong with you, have you listened to Donald Trump speak and honestly think of him as an intelligent man worthy of the spot of PRESIDENT of the united states ?

I called my mom and she told me to just let it go, and normally i don't care about politics (they are separated). Not to mention the fact that my sister is Also voting Trump, and my brother is voting Gary Johnson, because he doesn't like either of the candidates. I don't know what's going on, it's like I feel my family is just on a completely different level than I am, and not in the good way. I even live in upstate New York, and and completely surrounded by Trump supporters that all feel like he's going to take their guns away.

I am just so frustrated right now, and I NEVER get upset about politic's, this is the first time in my life I've honestly even taken more than a glance at it in these very forums. I'm just so ...... disappointed in the people around me.
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I will just leave it for now and return later on tomorrow when trump loses to really, really rub it in their faces. Seriously, I don't care what anyone says, people need to be chastisized for years for thinking donald fucking trump would make a good potus and voting for him.

Y'all better post all the fucking salt from social media/friends/family in here tomorrow.
 
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Tommy DJ

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hokahey said:
I think it's going to be extremely close. It might even take a day or two to call. I am a poll junkie and have been since 2000. I think Hillary has a solid chance of losing Ohio, FL, NV, PA, NC and NH. And it terrifies me. This is far from being in the bag. Mark my words.
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You're not only reading the wrong polls but also not engaged enough with said polls and early voting data.

Especially in the case of Nevada. Trump is 99% toast in the state.
 
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Robdraggoo

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On election eve, 2016 has been a shit year. So many legends we lost this year. That it has to have a happy ending. It's always darkest before the dawn.

Hillary will win!!
 
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Persona7

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Are mail ballots issued in california issued to a person directly? Like if two ballots (not the envelope) were switched would it matter?
 
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Steel

Banned
Don Lemon vs Andre on CNN exchange was priceless.

Andre starts complaining that bringing out celebrities like Lady Gaga was style over substance.

Don Lemon(paraphrase): Andre, I'm not gonna lie, when you said stlye over substance the first thing I thought of was Donald Trump.
 
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everyday math

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Lady GaGa we don't deserve you

Steel said:
Don Lemon vs Andre on CNN exchange was priceless.

Andre starts complaining that bringing out celebrities like Lady Gaga was style over substance.

Don Lemon(paraphrase): Andre, I'm not gonna lie, when you said stlye over substance the first thing I thought of was Donald Trump.
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Damn go Don. Never thought he would say that.
 
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Nudull

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My mother has the TV in the other room with the volume all the way up, cheering on Trump.

Never has Lee Greenwood's "God Bless the USA" pissed me off so much, let alone people I once cared for singing along and clapping to it.
 
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