United States Election: Nov. 8, 2016 |OT| Hate Trumps Love

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I agree, especially after it only got in the ballot because of rural legislators threw a hissy fit and our rich kid governor, Lex Luthor, shadyily funded the drive.

I still don't know how that wasn't illegal. A governor should never be able to even touch or promote or have anything to do with trying to bypass a veto override.
 
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I've stopped following around 15 of my friends on Facebook until the storm passes. They were just posting incessantly fucking idiotic shit left and right. Lost friends? Nah, but was probably on the threshold.
It's hard to be friends with someone who voted for Trump and believed in what he stood for.
Especially since I'm a Latino.
 
Florida question here.

My dad lived in Seminole County but moved to Orange County this year. He sent in a request to update his voter registration to Orange County but it never went through.

Even though he updated his driver's license to reflect the new county, can he just walk into the county where he's registered to vote and vote anyways?

He should be able to cast a provisional ballot. I had the same issue, but was lucky enough early voting is a thing in Ohio and went and cast a provisional ballot. The difference is that these ballots are usually not counted today towards the election, because they have to figure out if the voter is eligible.

Could be the difference between winning/losing if a race is close.
 
Still trying to figure out why the Trump camp thinks they can flip Michigan. I mean I guess everything is a long shot at this point.
 
Any of you states still doing polling stations need to get vote-by-mail.. the best way to vote is having it mailed to you and doing it in the privacy of your own home.

I voted weeks ago for fuck's sake.

I still like the tradition of voting in person on election day. I grew up going with parents when they voted and now I get to do it myself. Though it helps that I live in area that has zero lines.

I think early voting is the best of both worlds. You can go early, fit your schedule around it, but it still feels like voting, which is a feeling vote by mail does not have.
 
What is the straight ticket option? They weren't trying to get me to vote for a particular candidate, they just told me "not to cross party lines" and I was kind of taken aback.

Maybe they were trying to explain this straight ticket option?

Can you elaborate?

This sounds somewhat similar to what I've been told many times when voting which is basically to be careful if you select a straight ticket option make sure you do not select any of the individual selections for the other party as the machine will invalidate the entire ballot.

This isnt a new thing, just sounds like it was poorly worded.
 
I'm in Northern Kentucky. I'm 7 miles away from Ohio where my vote would count way more. I'm in Trump land and there is no way around it. I'm in Trump land and yet I'm happy with my life. If I was in Ohio, I would have voted for Hilary, no question. But as I had the ballot in front of me today, I didn't really feel represented by any candidate. I didn't like Clinton when I voted for Obama and I still don't. The fact that Obama and the rest are on her side just showed me how messed up having just 2 represenitives for President really is. If we can pick between 32 flavors at Baskin Robins, we should have more than 2 people to pick from for President. That's why I picked the Libitarian party not in hopes that Gary would be President, but in hopes that it would get funded federally, get more exposure, and have more of a chance to be recognized in the future as a serious candidate. I don't care about the Libitarian party either but it's the next closest one down from the other 2.

Your perspective on this is off. Today is the end of an election process that started over 500 days ago. Dozens of people threw their hats into the ring. We had way more than 32 people run for President this year. Just because you didn't take part in that process doesn't mean it didn't happen.
 
It's hard to be friends with someone who voted for Trump and believed in what he stood for.
Especially since I'm a Latino.

Pretty much...queer brown guy from a Muslim background, and yet I had people I know trying to convince me to vote Trump. Made it pretty easy for me to say bye-bye.
 
If you liked Obama and not voting for Clinton, then you are letting emotional cult of personality supersede policy.

Obama as a human being represented me. His calmness, his intelligence, his values represented me. They were easy to see through all the politics. Then he gets in office and you see that even as great as a person he is, the office of President is not enough to instill great values into all the people of this country. I truly believe the party system has become a problem, it's too simple for the complex problems that face this country.
 
Just voted! I guess everyone is at work or something because I was in and out in five minutes. California has a stupid amount of props this year but I voted HRC, to legalize marijuana and to abolish the death penalty. Feels good!
 
I'm in Virginia Beach. Get to vote in the Museum of Contemporary Art which is pretty cool.
Oh I was there maybe a couple months back, that place is great. Spent a whole afternoon there.

Funnily enough, my voting location was right across the street from my new current apartment at a local Library. Easiest no hassle voting I've done in a while.
 
Ranking these candidates, I just don't know how I can choose the lesser of two evils in this race. They are all so terrible.

  • Stein - A Russian stooge, who has little knowledge of how the Government works, obsessed with conspiracy theory, and not currently living in this reality.
  • Johnson - he's not explicitly bad, but he is ignorant in many areas.
  • Trump - A Russian stooge, who has little knowledge of how the Government works, obsessed with conspiracy theory, and not currently living in this reality.
  • Clinton - Sent and received emails.

How will I decide?
 
I'm not standing in line for 4 hours to vote. Fuck that

Bring a burrito.

But seriously more people should vote early. And states that don't offer early voting should be forced to. It's unfair to have such a huge decision that can only be made on one day between certain hours. Especially unfair those with lower income jobs who can't easily get time off or don't get long lunch breaks where they could go vote.
 
Your perspective on this is off. Today is the end of an election process that started over 500 days ago. Dozens of people threw their hats into the ring. We had way more than 32 people run for President this year. Just because you didn't take part in that process doesn't mean it didn't happen.

That's not what he's saying. 32 fought to run for either of the two parties. The fact that you're not viable when you don't agree with either of them is what he's saying. I think you knew that, though.
 
I'm in Virginia Beach. Get to vote in the Museum of Contemporary Art which is pretty cool.

Whoa, that's neat. One of our attorneys is located in VB, I'm going to see if she did it there.

I'll be visiting a school on my way home from work today. Very anxious. I live in a very red area of VA (just outside Richmond), and it wouldn't surprise me if there are some nutters around.
 
The person who handed me my ballot told me to not cross party lines when I vote and to vote all for the same party.

Is this a thing? I've voted in 3 elections now and never had anyone tell me that.

You seriously need to report that ASAP. They're interfering in the election process and may cost a candidate a lot of votes.
 
If you told me a few years ago that my first vote ever in a presidential election would be for Hillary Clinton, I would have been in complete disbelief. Yet here we are. I've owned up to my mistakes on the past on GAF and I'm glad that I got my shit together long before it became time to make the right decision. I will say it again: I was flat out wrong about Hillary, influenced by the viewpoints of both Conservative and Liberal (Bernie) friends to see her as the terribly false portrayal that has been pushed since the 90's. Without GAF, I may have held the same viewpoint today and thrown away my vote.

While CT will go Blue regardless, local elections are a whole other level. My town is very conservative to the point where I saw a huge Trump sign along with a House candidate outside the polling place. There was a surprising voter ID requirement that didn't hurt me at all but could harm many others.

Even if Hillary wins in a landslide, that is not where the true battle is. Even if the Senate is turned Blue, things aren't over by a long shot. It begins on the smallest of levels. If you are considering not voting, reconsider. Too much is at stake.
 
Ranking these candidates, I just don't know how I can choose the lesser of two evils in this race. They are all so terrible.

  • Stein - A Russian stooge, who has little knowledge of how the Government works, obsessed with conspiracy theory, and not currently living in this reality.
  • Johnson - he's not explicitly bad, but he is ignorant in many areas.
  • Trump - A Russian stooge, who has little knowledge of how the Government works, obsessed with conspiracy theory, and not currently living in this reality.
  • Clinton - Sent and received emails.

How will I decide?

The private server though man. She HAD to be doing something corrupt right? She should be in JAIL! Yeah there's no evidence for it and yeah the FBI said twice no reasonable prosecutor would pursue this case but that probably just means Comey is a paid crooked hillary shill! Like how could they go through 650,000 emails in 11 days? THEY DIDNT, THATS HOW! There's no way they could have software to detect that it was mostly duplicates.
 
It's hard to be friends with someone who voted for Trump and believed in what he stood for.
Especially since I'm a Latino.

This is the first time I've felt like voting for someone really reflects poorly on someone. I didn't agree with Romney or Bush, but was able to see people as misguided or tricked. Trump just doesn't dog whistle or use coded language. He's very upfront about his racism and idiocy.
 
They aren't supposed to tell you ANYTHING at all other than answer basic questions.
That's why I asked Kamek if it was possible he misheard the instructions. I'm not sure how telling someone they can't cross party lines systematically helps one party over another, a party voter for either party could be voting against their party's candidates (although I guess it's probably more likely that an R voter wouldn't want to vote for their top of the ticket candidate...)

What is the straight ticket option? They weren't trying to get me to vote for a particular candidate, they just told me "not to cross party lines" and I was kind of taken aback.

Maybe they were trying to explain this straight ticket option?

Can you elaborate?
A straight ticket vote allows you to make a single vote for a party and the counter knows that you are voting for all of the candidates of that party. He might have been trying to explain that. My understanding is that you can vote straight ticket but then manually vote for a candidate for the other party (i.e. if you choose straight party R, but then manually vote Clinton, your Clinton vote overrides the straight party vote,) but that might be different on different types of ballots.
 
Just voted! Feelsgoodman, +1 for Queen, Strickland, and Young. Fwiw, I saw an older guy's ballot as he was asking a poll worker if he could JUST vote for P and VP, and it was for Trump, so at least some Reps are following through on the"punish the traitors" stuff.

If this trend + Republican women voting against Trump holds up then we could see Dems winning downballot cause of "traitors against Trump" and Hillary winning because of Republicans turning on Trump.

It would be glorious.
 
Obama as a human being represented me. His calmness, his intelligence, his values represented me. They were easy to see through all the politics. Then he gets in office and you see that even as great as a person he is, the office of President is not enough to instill great values into all the people of this country. I truly believe the party system has become a problem, it's too simple for the complex problems that face this country.

Unfortunately I feel this is a liberal thing more than conservative and why liberals cannot win down ticket. Because if Clinton isn't representing you on a personal level (even if policy does), how is any senator or literally anyone else that doesn't have half the exposure going to? Obama endorsed the hell out of Clinton. If you liked Obama I don't understand why she doesn't get your vote

So instead you vote against the system entirely, all but ensuring a trump victory in your area even. You think your state is a lock for trump, and it definitely always will be if younger people do protest votes while older people that have been around the block to know that doesn't do shit continue the steady republican vote
 
That's not what he's saying. 32 fought to run for either of the two parties. The fact that you're not viable when you don't agree with either of them is what he's saying. I think you knew that, though.


But...

You are viable. Trump fundamentally disagreed with decades of Republican policy on trade. Bernie got far with a platform that differed significantly from the Usual Democrat platform -- AND ended up changing said platform multiple ways.
 
Ranking these candidates, I just don't know how I can choose the lesser of two evils in this race. They are all so terrible.

  • Stein - A Russian stooge, who has little knowledge of how the Government works, obsessed with conspiracy theory, and not currently living in this reality.
  • Johnson - he's not explicitly bad, but he is ignorant in many areas.
  • Trump - A Russian stooge, who has little knowledge of how the Government works, obsessed with conspiracy theory, and not currently living in this reality.
  • Clinton - Sent and received emails. Clinton Foundation exists.

How will I decide?
Pfft, such a shill, FTFY on SHILLARY
 
I voted by mail in California a few weeks ago but huge props to all those waiting in long lines to make their voices heard in this critical election. I don't think I've ever thought of an election and a vote as sending so much of a message as in this one. Outcome is certainly the most important thing, but I think getting a sense of where are voting populace is is also really important. It's too bad so many have tried to make it so hard to vote, but again really amazing to see millions of people overcoming all of these obstacles.
 
If you told me a few years ago that my first vote ever in a presidential election would be for Hillary Clinton, I would have been in complete disbelief. Yet here we are. I've owned up to my mistakes on the past on GAF and I'm glad that I got my shit together long before it became time to make the right decision. I will say it again: I was flat out wrong about Hillary, influenced by the viewpoints of both Conservative and Liberal (Bernie) friends to see her as the terribly false portrayal that has been pushed since the 90's. Without GAF, I may have held the same viewpoint today and thrown away my vote.

While CT will go Blue regardless, local elections are a whole other level. My town is very conservative to the point where I saw a huge Trump sign along with a House candidate outside the polling place. There was a surprising voter ID requirement that didn't hurt me at all but could harm many others.

Even if Hillary wins in a landslide, that is not where the true battle is. Even if the Senate is turned Blue, things aren't over by a long shot. It begins on the smallest of levels. If you are considering not voting, reconsider. Too much is at stake.

Which county are you in? I grew up in Fairfield County and only left a few years ago but there was nothing like this in place there when I left.
 
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