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2016 Presidential Exit Poll Shocker: Increased Support for Trump from Minorities

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Kadey said:
I know some minorities who voted for him. Their argument is stuff like Obamacare and their very own way of life. With Hillary they think it will be more of the same, with Trump they think it could get better and change is needed. It's not that Trump won, it's more that Hillary lost.
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Yep.
 
I think that it's really the "TV star" effect. It's what Trump said about women he assaults applied to the large public. He's a star so nobody can refuse him. He was a product that you see so often on TV, every day, that becomes a routine in your life. And even the bad things, bad statements, bad stories about him were just episodes of a long soap opera. It never landed as something real, that can hurt in real life, with a lot of people.
 
Proof that you can be a "monster" in every sense of the word... BUT, if people believe that you will actually fix the country, a monster is more than enough then.
 
Kadey said:
I know some minorities who voted for him. Their argument is stuff like Obamacare and their very own way of life. With Hillary they think it will be more of the same, with Trump they think it could get better and change is needed. It's not that Trump won, it's more that Hillary lost.
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I mean tnat is how I saw this election in general. Plenty of people weren't voting for the person they wanted to be president. They were voting against the person they didn't want to be president. It really says a lot about both candidates.
 
Kathian said:
I'm not that shocked. I mean I think he'd lose the Muslim vote but the same reason working class whites will vote for him is the same reason working class minorities will vote for him.
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I'm so confused about this. What is appealing to a working class ("blue collar") worker about him? That he has money?

He is part of that business hierarchy that want to drive down wages, break unions and send jobs overseas. I truly don't get it.
 
Antiochus said:
Trump won because the demographics most ostensibly hostile to him in theory, were not in reality
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because any theoretical hostility he expresses to them as a group is overwhelmed by the more tangible (to them) threat of establishment politics and globalism that they personally feel.

not saying it's right or wrong. but trump basically said the worst possible things you could possibly ever say ... and it didn't matter.

that shows that even tho people who voted for him may be disgusted by his words, they're more scared or angry about the real actions of global elite, establishment politics, and globalism.

(again, not saying it's right or wrong, correct or misguided... but it seems to be what happened)
 
Elfstruck said:
This is the end for her. But who knows? Third time's a charm.
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Nah she's done for good. No person in right mind at dnc would ever let her run again now. She absolutely got demolished in numbers, lost every single relevant swing states and even lost Wisconsin that was a solid blue state ever since Reagan era until today. I've never seen this happen until now.
 
Ninjimbo said:
It really is the economy, huh?
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I rather tolerate more racism than having to pay and work more for no benefit at all, as is the case with Obamacare. Of course I wouldn't have voted Trump because I know he is mediocre and the economy will get worse, but the more gullible of my latino peers might buy into his bullshit.
 
Elfstruck said:
This is the end for her. But who knows? Third time's a charm.
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Nope. She is still more than qualified for the position and would make a great President. But.

You have to win for that to matter. And its very very clear that the carpet bombing on her character the Right kept up for 20 years worked. I honestly thought the fact that since 99% of the crap fake scandals could be dissected and shown to be bullshit would be enough for their tactic to not win out.

I was way wrong on that. Tell someone a lie enough times and it clearly sticks. They just lobbed empty bomb after empty bomb after empty bomb, the fielded them all but it didn't matter. Perception ruled.
 
KingSnake said:
I think that it's really the "TV star" effect. It's what Trump said about women he assaults applied to the large public. He's a star so nobody can refuse him. He was a product that you see so often on TV, every day, that becomes a routine in your life. And even the bad things, bad statements, bad stories about him were just episodes of a long soap opera. It never landed as something real, that can hurt in real life, with a lot of people.
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Had Schwarzenegger winning California/OJ Simpson getting away thoughts all throughout the night.
 
God Dayumm said:
I rather tolerate more racism than having to pay and work more for no benefit at all, as is the case with Obamacare. Of course I wouldn't have voted Trump because I know he is mediocre and the economy will get worse, but the more gullible of my latino peers might buy into his bullshit.
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I think this is a point that a lot of more well off people may miss. When you're trying to just to get by and survive the least of your worries is intolerance.
 
How much of this was the silent majority as well? How many people said one thing like, "Donald Trump is a bigot and sexist!" and then penciled or pushed his name on the ballot? How many of those were poc, women, Muslims, that just wanted to say "fuck you" to Washington? I would sorely love to know...
 
People said they wanted a change from the establishment and voted for the status quo; the white nationalist patriarchy.
 
Cipherr said:
Nope. She is still more than qualified for the position and would make a great President. But.

You have to win for that to matter. And its very very clear that the carpet bombing on her character the Right kept up for 20 years worked. I honestly thought the fact that since 99% of the crap fake scandals could be dissected and shown to be bullshit would be enough for their tactic to not win out.

I was way wrong on that. Tell someone a lie enough times and it clearly sticks. They just lobbed empty bomb after empty bomb after empty bomb, the fielded them all but it didn't matter. Perception ruled.
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I am shocked at how effective the propaganda against her was, I get not liking her, but shit about her getting a rapist off being spread....
 
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Like Slick Willy said: It's the economy, stupid...and minorities have unfortunately suffered the worst for the past few years.

Plus the super predator Clintons aren't exactly the most respected people when it comes to minority relations either, and Hillary was a pretty lazy campaigner and took "deplorable" voters for granted.

Melkr_ said:
Identity politics failed. The answer was class politics.
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Pretty much.
 
People wanting to simply reduce this to misogyny or racism are sorely missing the point . Do *i* know how to explain what the fuck just happened? No. But it seems far more complex than the aforementioned.
 
DR2K said:
I hope these voters don't complain when things don't go their way.
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Voters will always complain. Best case scenario is Trump actually is able to do whatever he is going to do and get people jobs. Whether that's taxing imports so much that companies will have to start looking back at American locations again, we really won't know for a while.
 
There is some faulty math at play that would assume minority = liberal.

Ask your Asian or Hispanic friends what some of their grandfathers say at the dinner table. They can be as social and fiscally conservative as they come. Hell, ask them about some of their young cousins. They needn't be old.

They came here to save money and raise traditional families (ain't got NO time for this LGBT nonsense), and they'd be just as happy if the door closed behind them after they entered the country.
 
I know a middle-aged Indian woman who voted for Trump, for what it's worth. She is a bit of a nutcase, despite being a very successful engineer. She's exactly the kind of person that buys into conspiracy theories and has an intense distrust of pretty much everyone.

I think people like her turned out in droves.

norm9 said:
Voters will always complain. Best case scenario is Trump actually is able to do whatever he is going to do and get people jobs. Whether that's taxing imports so much that companies will have to start looking back at American locations again, we really won't know for a while.
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This. What's done is done, and it's petty to wish for Trump to do a poor job. Let's hope he was bullshitting about the wall and the vetting of Muslims, and that he was sincere about job creation.
 
Stumpokapow said:
Honest analysis:
Latinos range from light-skinned to dark-skinned. Past research shows that dark-skinned Latinos basically vote like black voters do. Light-skinned Latinos basically vote like white voters do. They are ideologically more conservative, more likely to speak English, etc.

In an election with low overall turnout, including Latino turnout, but a boost to some white turnout based on Trump's coattails, what we have is a whitening of the Latino electorate in a way that looks like more Latinos support Trump than did Romney, even if no one's votes changed.

We may have a ceiling effect, where almost all non-white Latinos are voting D, and so the lopsidedness of the tilt is unlikely to increase without demographic change.
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This is such an on-point analysis. I think it's time to re-think what we consider "the Latino" voting bloc. Maybe I've just been naive this entire time but clearly there's less of a monolith than I assumed.
 
They are fucking idiots

These people aren't to blame for Trump's victory - white women, maybe - but they are fucking moronic.

I really hope they are ok in the next four years though
 
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