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Donald J. Trump elected 45th President of the United States

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NoMoreTrolls said:
Pretty sure this is exactly what I was talking about. Thanks for proving my point. By adopting a smug attitude, liberals (who I mostly agree with, BTW, in case anyone wants to fling some ad hominems) are ultimately pushing the divide further apart. The inability to consider that others arrive at their viewpoints through the experiences that life has thrown their way rather than simple stupidity is why this and Brexit happened. Why would these people, "voting against their self interest," ever listen to the horde of people who have no time for them save to call them "fucking idiots," "bigots," "assholes," and the like? You guys can continue to alienate those people, who read Twitter, who are on Facebook. You're sure as shit not going to convince anyone, but at least you'll feel good about yourself as you bask in your innate superiority.
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Give Trump 6 months in the White House and people like that will have a lot more than that to feel alienated about.
 
I haven't gone to bed, I feel like I can't. This is so sickening, like I hate the idea that I could even feel normal a week from now, a month, a year. To think I can even just go about my day, and not think about how that man is in charge of America, the country I live and was born in. I'm white so I already know I won't be directly targeted, but for Minorities? The LGBTQ community? I feel so fucking sick.

Sorry to the mods if it just feels like I'm writing blogs with some of my posts. This election is just unbelievable :/
 
Kolgar said:
And I think the same of you. But the fact is, more Americans seem to agree with me right now than agree with you.

Treat the next four years as a learning opportunity. Keep an open mind. With age comes wisdom.
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People voted Hitler into power. Were they right to do so, in hindsight?

People voted for Brexit now have coins and notes in their pockets worth 20-30% less than it used to be valued at, with signs only showing it falling even further.

Okay, people voted for it. That doesn't automatically qualify it as the right thing.
 
NoMoreTrolls said:
The lack of empathy here on both sides is abhorrent. Everyone is either a cartoon villain racist or some bleeding heart hippy. People are complex animals, with varying experiences, communities, and needs. This leads to differing worldviews and opinions. Believe it or not, it wasn't a choice between two clone candidates, only one was a racist, sexist shit bag and the other a saint. The vast majority of people on Trumps side weren't voting for "fuck yeah racism! Grab them minorities by the pussy!" the same way that Clinton voters weren't voting for "take all the money away from hard working Americans."
That so many people in these threads have so little empathy towards their fellow man to distill their unique personal interests into these crude mockeries of reasoning is disturbing.
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I agree.

I'm going to admit right now that I have been a Trump supporter for over a year. But I didn't talk about it because I felt I'd be tarred and feathered over it. I saw the binary nature of us versus them on both sides and said 'I'm playing this close to the chest.' As for why I supported him, I wanted Trump to either destroy the Republican establishment because I was fed up with their lukewarm shit or change the world. And honestly? He got both and I'm ecstatic over it. For better or worse, I will own it. I understand all of the shit he said/did rubbed people the wrong way, and he definitely went overboard a few times. But I just wanted something different than DC insiders. Bernie, for all of the outsider talk, isn't an outsider. The dude looked like his soul was destroyed after endorsing Hillary, and his supporters felt cheated, and got validated from it via WikiLeaks. But honestly, that was a debate that I think would've been enlightening to everyone. But since it didn't (and probably won't due to Bernie's age) happen, we have to think about where we go from here.
 
Solaire of Astora said:
The Scotch? Are you aware that that's a pejorative? And I'm aware that Scotland voted to remain in the UK. It was the last time I set foot in the country.

But either way, we can go back and forth as much as you want, but Scotland and Northern Ireland voted to remain in the EU. That's fact. We did our part on behalf of the remain campaign and as a result, can hold our heads high.
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Haha, yeah, sorry. I've just been watching Stewart Lee.

As for your last paragraph, so did I. Doesn't change a fuck though does it?
 
Lautaro said:
Democracy is not healthy if people vote against their real interests because they are too fucking ignorant to know better.
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In a democracy, people are allowed to make mistakes (if electing Donald Trump should sometime in the future prove to be a mistake).

Many (most?) people suffered in the last eight years. The rich got richer, the poor got poorer. Under Hillary Clinton these trends would have continued (maybe accelerated). With Donald Trump people at least can hope.

I understand why the American people elected President Trump.
 
Kolgar said:
And I think the same of you. But the fact is, more Americans seem to agree with me right now than agree with you.

Treat the next four years as a learning opportunity. Keep an open mind. With age comes wisdom.
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The next four years, once again as always when the republicans seem to take charge will show us how misguided their ideas area.

Trickle down economics, this time it will work right?
 
And now the people who support a candidate who rose to fame directly by being a divisive fuckwit are trying to preach to us about understanding and open mindedness.

Kindly fuck off. All this proves is that America is a country deeply troubled by racism, sexism, homophobia and xenophobia. You don't get to claim moral superiority just because there's more of you. That's not how that works.
 
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Last Pepe meme. I'm going to bed, good night.
 
As it stands now, by the combined vote totals for the main 2 parties, Over 11 million people less voted for the 2 parties, and 75% of those lost votes were on the democratic side.

Obama 12: 65.9 Million
Clinton 16: 57.6 Million

Romney 12: 60.9 Million
Drumpf 16: 58.1 Million

Now I know Cali will tighten up those numbers, but not nearly enough.
 
The alt right here in the Middle East seem pretty happy about this, with all the "I told you Americans hated you, join us".
 
Username1198 said:
But where the fuck were you guys when he was saying and doing all that crazy shit?
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Hint: "Unity" is code for minorities and their allies shutting the fuck up and allowing the GOP to do whatever it wants to do regardless of who gets hurt in the process. It doesn't mean any meaningful unification between various demographics.
 
KingBroly said:
I agree.

I'm going to admit right now that I have been a Trump supporter for over a year. But I didn't talk about it because I felt I'd be tarred and feathered over it. I saw the binary nature of us versus them on both sides and said 'I'm playing this close to the chest.' As for why I supported him, I wanted Trump to either destroy the Republican establishment because I was fed up with their lukewarm shit or change the world. And honestly? He got both and I'm ecstatic over it. For better or worse, I will own it. I understand all of the shit he said/did rubbed people the wrong way, and he definitely went overboard a few times. But I just wanted something different than DC insiders. Bernie, for all of the outsider talk, isn't an outsider. The dude looked like his soul was destroyed after endorsing Hillary, and his supporters felt cheated, and got validated from it via WikiLeaks. But honestly, that was a debate that I think would've been enlightening to everyone. But since it didn't (and probably won't due to Bernie's age) happen, we have to think about where we go from here.
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Congrats of 40 years of an ultra conservative supreme court. SO EXCITING. Bigots emboldened everywhere, anti-intellectualism applauded, and the science of climate change being rejected. YES!
 
Esiquio said:
You are not the greatest poster in NeoGAF and never have been. Kidding aside, the Constitution was an incredible achievement, and don't forget our involvement in WWII, that we put the first man on the moon, our medical and scientific advancements, etc. What country would you put as tops? The word, "great", is a pretty subjective world, I realize, but I gotta know what ground you're standing on here.
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Did I hit a nerve? good.
 
cyberheater said:
From the BBC.



Wow.
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Yup. The problem with liberal causes are that liberals aren't passionate enough to make them happen. They are also easily swayed to idealism in not accepting anyone that doesn't match their views 100%

Republican rhetoric is old and out dated. But new liberal ideas are hindered by squabbling on their perfection. Liberals will continue to lose downticket because frankly the people those ideas appeal are the same group that will be difficult to get motivated to vote
 
I just feel bad for Hillary. 30 years of vitriol, dumb mistakes, scandals, and probably relegated to obscurity.
 
Kolgar said:
This thread also confirms for me what I have suspected for a while: that the U.S. educational system has been well and truly overtaken by leftist teachers and teachings.

Try to keep an open mind and think critically for yourself; I think eventually some of you will come around.

God bless America and all of its people. I don't know what Trump will bring, but I know what Clinton told us she'd bring, and it is not the stuff that made America the greatest country in the world.
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Why don't you go ask any minority what Trump will bring and they'll be more than "happy" to tell you it doesn't involve them.
 
KingBroly said:
I agree.

I'm going to admit right now that I have been a Trump supporter for over a year. But I didn't talk about it because I felt I'd be tarred and feathered over it. I saw the binary nature of us versus them on both sides and said 'I'm playing this close to the chest.' As for why I supported him, I wanted Trump to either destroy the Republican establishment because I was fed up with their lukewarm shit or change the world. And honestly? He got both and I'm ecstatic over it. For better or worse, I will own it. I understand all of the shit he said/did rubbed people the wrong way, and he definitely went overboard a few times. But I just wanted something different than DC insiders. Bernie, for all of the outsider talk, isn't an outsider. The dude looked like his soul was destroyed after endorsing Hillary, and his supporters felt cheated, and got validated from it via WikiLeaks. But honestly, that was a debate that I think would've been enlightening to everyone. But since it didn't (and probably won't due to Bernie's age) happen, we have to think about where we go from here.
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Congrats, Trump is going to "destroy the Republican establishment" by letting Mike Pence, Chris Christie, Newt Gingrich and Rudy Guiliani run the show and hold positions of power within the government. What an outsider. Mission accomplished. Totally legit and rational reason to support a bigot.
 
KingBroly said:
I agree.

I'm going to admit right now that I have been a Trump supporter for over a year. But I didn't talk about it because I felt I'd be tarred and feathered over it. I saw the binary nature of us versus them on both sides and said 'I'm playing this close to the chest.' As for why I supported him, I wanted Trump to either destroy the Republican establishment because I was fed up with their lukewarm shit or change the world. And honestly? He got both and I'm ecstatic over it. For better or worse, I will own it. I understand all of the shit he said/did rubbed people the wrong way, and he definitely went overboard a few times. But I just wanted something different than DC insiders. Bernie, for all of the outsider talk, isn't an outsider. The dude looked like his soul was destroyed after endorsing Hillary, and his supporters felt cheated, and got validated from it via WikiLeaks. But honestly, that was a debate that I think would've been enlightening to everyone. But since it didn't (and probably won't due to Bernie's age) happen, we have to think about where we go from here.
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So you don't give a fuck about anybody adversely affected by him. Got it.

Yeah. No. Fuck off with that "we deserve your empathy" shit.
 
Maedre said:
What do you expect? Whe had our own Trump and its hard to see when other countrys are stupid enough to do the same mistake.

God Damn Americans you should have learned from history but you decided to repeat it. Brilliant.
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You do not really compare Trump to Hitler?
 
Mango Madness said:
And the common refrain is that the racists/sexists are just going to die out anyway. Yeah, not with the results we're seeing here, folks. Education is going to be key, and no one likes a condescending teacher.
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I've said this time and time again but some people have a very "you're either with me or against me" attitude which isn't going to accomplish anything. Human beings are capable of changing and learning. If more people actually look the time to try to have actual discussions instead of spouting accusations at each other then maybe some people would learn something. Once you accuse someone of being a racist/sexist/sjw etc or lump them into those camps because they simply don't agree with you then most people are going to tune out and not give a shit about what you have to say.
 
Nepenthe said:
Hint: "Unity" is code for minorities and their allies shutting the fuck up and allowing the GOP to do whatever it wants to do regardless of who gets hurt in the process. It doesn't mean any meaningful unification between various demographics.
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It's all doublespeak right?
 
Lonestar said:
As it stands now, by the combined vote totals for the main 2 parties, Over 11 million people less voted for the 2 parties, and 75% of those lost votes were on the democratic side.

Obama 12: 65.9 Million
Clinton 16: 57.6 Million

Romney 12: 60.9 Million
Drumpf 16: 58.1 Million

Now I know Cali will tighten up those numbers, but not nearly enough.
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So this is much more about Clinton sucking it up than Trump doing well.
 
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