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[depths20XX]

Why did Obama do so well and Hillary did so terribly? She was even going up against a complete clown.

 

[Aztechnology]

At least you'll get it all out of your system for the next time the election rolls around.

If another election rolls around.

Not those supreme court justices though.

 

[Frozenprince]

Congrats, Trump is going to "destroy the Republican establishment" by letting Mike Pence, Chris Christie, Newt Gingrich and Rudy Guiliani run the show and hold positions of power within the government. What an outsider. Mission accomplished. Totally legit and rational reason to support a bigot.

I feel better already.

Boy empathy only one way towards straight white people sure is easy.

 

[Tak3n]

Oh the humble pie that is about to be swallowed by politicians around the world... Hollande said Trump made him sock.... British MP's tried to ban him from coming to the UK

you watch them all know.....complete 360 about to be done live

 

[CarpeDeezNutz]

Oh my fucking God he won. What the fuck. I'm going back to bed.

 

[BSsBrolly]

My condolences America, but this is Democracy, you get what you deserve!

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When you elect President George W. Bush and don't learn from it.... This is what we get.

 

[DragoonKain]

I'm not really a big political guy, I'll say flat out that I'm really not that educated on the detailed elements of Trump's plan.

One of my biggest issues as an American in my life has been healthcare. I have a chronic disease that can creep up at any time and hurt my ability to work and I've always fallen in a niche group that gets rejected for healthcare discounts and such and have always struggled to find affordable healthcare for the times where I'm out of work.

Not sure how Trump will affect people in my position either way. I do know Obamacare's "no rejections for pre-existing conditions" benefitted me greatly for a time... until the premiums got way too expensive. It was either high monthly premium or lower premium but large deductible. Making it incredibly hard to afford for me.

Anyone educated on what Trump will bring in this regard or people like me?

 

[Fat4all]

at least Alec Baldwin will get some work out of this

:/

 

[Lautaro]

Trump supporters can't ask for unity when Trump's major platform was built on isolation and othering.

All despots ask for unity when they reach power.

 

[UnObtainium17]

2016 has been a fuckin shitshow. Lawd hamercy on us for 2017

 

[Machina]

So this is much more about Clinton sucking it up than Trump doing well.

It's also going to send the Bernie supporters over the edge furious.

 

[wachie]

The silent majority voted for CHANGE at any cost and threw the baby out with the bath water.

Good going.

 

[BocoDragon]

In a democracy, people are allowed to make mistakes (if electing Donald Trump should sometime in the future prove to be a mistake).

Many (most?) people suffered in the last eight years. The rich got richer, the poor got poorer. Under Hillary Clinton these trends would have continued (maybe accelerated). With Donald Trump people at least can hope.

I understand why the American people elected President Trump.

This economic depression started under W. Bush. So I don't know why you'd say it'd continue under Hillary and not Trump.

It's right wing economic policies that accelerate the divide between rich and poor anyway.

I can understand a "fuck it" vote for economic change, but there is no evidence or reason that Trump has any way forward on this issue.

 

[Airola]

Will this be the new Polygon chart?

 

[Unknown One]

Hahahahahaha oh well off to join the military nice being allies with you america i'll be ready when war erupts between us.

Half of us might not fight back, I won't.

 

[ISee]

No reaction from Germany yet?

Seems they are still shocked.

We have the AFD sitting in every state parliament which had an election in 2016. They even sometimes have more delegates then the SPD or CDU (the two 'huge' German parties) there.
So what's there to say. The same shit could happen to us in late 2017.

 

[Sidewinder]

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When you elect President George W. Bush and don't learn from it.... This is what we get.

If Trump came right after Bush I'd have bet my ass on him to win, but after Obama? It's crazy.

 

[Maedre]

You do not really compare Trump to Hitler?

I do. Both are/were racist power hungry Populists who got democratically elected. Both promised to make their country great, both used miniritys, both lied, both used the same demogrpahic group.
I dont say that trump starts a world war.

But you are right. Hitler diddn't had a briefcase with a big red button that gives access to nuclear weapons. My bad.

 

[Tak3n]

Why did Obama do so well and Hillary did so terribly? She was even going up against a complete clown.

if you are going to pick one of the most odious woman out there to run for president, you can not be blamed when people say 'nope'

 

[moggio]

I'm not really a big political guy, I'll say flat out that I'm really not that educated on the detailed elements of Trump's plan.

One of my biggest issues as an American in my life has been healthcare. I have a chronic disease that can creep up at any time and hurt my ability to work and I've always fallen in a niche group that gets rejected for healthcare discounts and such and have always struggled to find affordable healthcare for the times where I'm out of work.

Not sure how Trump will affect people in my position either way. I do know Obamacare's "no rejections for pre-existing conditions" benefitted me greatly for a time... until the premiums got way too expensive. It was either high monthly premium or lower premium but large deductible.

Anyone educated on what Trump will bring in this regard or people like me?

Hate to break it to you, but you're completely fucked.

 

[DontBeThatGuy]

As it stands now, by the combined vote totals for the main 2 parties, Over 11 million people less voted for the 2 parties, and 75% of those lost votes were on the democratic side.

Obama 12: 65.9 Million
Clinton 16: 57.6 Million

Romney 12: 60.9 Million
Drumpf 16: 58.1 Million

Now I know Cali will tighten up those numbers, but not nearly enough.

I'm pretty sure the swing states had some big turn out, actually, regardless of the numbers being down overall.

 

[NoMoreTrolls]

do these people really exist?



I'm not going to humor anyone kicking "both sides" and frankly I think it should be banworthy

Further proving my point. Sorry I said something you disagree with. I know what'll fix it! Call for a ban! Surely these forums aren't for discourse. I prefer my chambers much more echoey.

 

[UnObtainium17]

It's also going to send the Bernie supporters over the edge furious.

As a bernie guy kinda. No doubt in my mind Bernie would trounce donald

 

[TemplaerDude]

You are not the greatest poster in NeoGAF and never have been. Kidding aside, the Constitution was an incredible achievement, and don't forget our involvement in WWII, that we put the first man on the moon, our medical and scientific advancements, etc. What country would you put as tops? The word, "great", is a pretty subjective world, I realize, but I gotta know what ground you're standing on here.

Why does it matter.

 

[Hermii]

Oh the humble pie that is about to be swallowed by politicians around the world... Hollande said Trump made him sock.... British MP's tried to ban him from coming to the UK

you watch them all know.....complete 360 about to be done live

I think you mean 180. If you do a 360, you are back where you started.

 

[Tiamant]

Oh the humble pie that is about to be swallowed by politicians around the world... Hollande said Trump made him sock.... British MP's tried to ban him from coming to the UK

you watch them all know.....complete 360 about to be done live

I hope it's really a 360

 

[Barzul]

I'm going to ask "Where's the wall?" every day of Trump's presidency. I wonder how they'll twist themselves to answer it every day it does not even get close to being done.

 

[Steel]

I'm not really a big political guy, I'll say flat out that I'm really not that educated on the detailed elements of Trump's plan.

One of my biggest issues as an American in my life has been healthcare. I have a chronic disease that can creep up at any time and hurt my ability to work and I've always fallen in a niche group that gets rejected for healthcare discounts and such and have always struggled to find affordable healthcare for the times where I'm out of work.

Not sure how Trump will affect people in my position either way. I do know Obamacare's "no rejections for pre-existing conditions" benefitted me greatly for a time... until the premiums got way too expensive. It was either high monthly premium or lower premium but large deductible. Making it incredibly hard to afford for me.

Anyone educated on what Trump will bring in this regard or people like me?

His plan is to get rid of Obamacare and then get rid of state lines.

So, almost nothing.

 

[Regulus Tera]

You are not the greatest poster in NeoGAF and never have been. Kidding aside, the Constitution was an incredible achievement, and don't forget our involvement in WWII, that we put the first man on the moon, our medical and scientific advancements, etc. What country would you put as tops? The word, "great", is a pretty subjective world, I realize, but I gotta know what ground you're standing on here.

I don't know what country is the world's greatest, but I will tell you this: the idea that a country is superior to another, the idea that nation states should have dick contests according to their arsenal / sporting prowess / global influence only helps foster ethnocentrism in the minds of people. That one's country is already good and it doesn't need to learn from others or interact with others to improve itself. That it has already made it and therefore it has a moral obligation to teach lesser countries how to behave like it.

This election was a referendum on ethnonationalism versus globalisation. It has proven that, to the American populace, their pride on a stupid retrograde vision of America as the magnum opus of democracy and virtue is more important than actual cooperation with the international community.

 

[Pre]

Donald Trump has ended the Clintons' political careers, and for rendering this service to the republic he has my gratitude.

 

[KuwabaraTheMan]

Depressed turnout is such a damn shame. Everyone who didn't show up should be ashamed o f themselves.

 

[Machina]

Half of us might not fight back, I won't.

If Trump starts a draft, yes you will. And if you don't? OH SWELL, Vietnam 2.0

 

[WrenchNinja]

I agree.

I'm going to admit right now that I have been a Trump supporter for over a year. But I didn't talk about it because I felt I'd be tarred and feathered over it. I saw the binary nature of us versus them on both sides and said 'I'm playing this close to the chest.' As for why I supported him, I wanted Trump to either destroy the Republican establishment because I was fed up with their lukewarm shit or change the world. And honestly? He got both and I'm ecstatic over it. For better or worse, I will own it. I understand all of the shit he said/did rubbed people the wrong way, and he definitely went overboard a few times. But I just wanted something different than DC insiders. Bernie, for all of the outsider talk, isn't an outsider. The dude looked like his soul was destroyed after endorsing Hillary, and his supporters felt cheated, and got validated from it via WikiLeaks. But honestly, that was a debate that I think would've been enlightening to everyone. But since it didn't (and probably won't due to Bernie's age) happen, we have to think about where we go from here.

What does that even mean? What do you expect is going to happen here with someone who doesn't know anything about politics?

You understand all the shit he said? It sounds more like you just don't care.

 

[Relix]

How did this happen Usa. Holy... Shit.

 

[Pellegri Testament]

Anyone educated on what Trump will bring in this regard or people like me?

As it stands, absolutely nothing. The only thing he has said is he wants to repeal Obamacare and replace it with "something that works", what that something is remains a mystery.

 

[Nepenthe]

It's all doublespeak right?

Indeed. Overall this outcome is doubleplus ungood.

 

[Sunset Samurai]

I woke up to this and I'm literally shaking. How the fuck could we let this happen. Are we that dense???? Like seriously wtf. This is very frightening as a black man

 

[Dalibor68]

We have the AFD sitting in every state parliament which had an election in 2016. They even sometimes have more delegates then the SPD or CDU (the two 'huge' German parties) there.
So what's there to say. The same shit could happen to us in late 2017.

It wont. Maybe 15-20%, but CDU and SPD will still stick together for a new coalition, if need be added with the Greens. It will be interesting in 2022 however, if the current trends keep on going.

 

[Gentleman Jack]

I just wanted something different than DC insiders.

You were sold a fantasy given Trump's likely cabinet appointees and the DC Insiders that still by and large run Congress.

 

[Darkstorne]

if you are going to pick one of the most odious woman out there to run for president, you can not be blamed when people say 'nope'

Oh, hey, I remember you! You thought Brexit was a good idea!

Good to see you on top form.

 

[Ninja Scooter]

I'm not really a big political guy, I'll say flat out that I'm really not that educated on the detailed elements of Trump's plan.

One of my biggest issues as an American in my life has been healthcare. I have a chronic disease that can creep up at any time and hurt my ability to work and I've always fallen in a niche group that gets rejected for healthcare discounts and such and have always struggled to find affordable healthcare for the times where I'm out of work.

Not sure how Trump will affect people in my position either way. I do know Obamacare's "no rejections for pre-existing conditions" benefitted me greatly for a time... until the premiums got way too expensive. It was either high monthly premium or lower premium but large deductible. Making it incredibly hard to afford for me.

Anyone educated on what Trump will bring in this regard or people like me?

Good news: You won't have to make that hard decision between high monthly premium or lower premium but large deductible anymore.

Bad news: It will be because you will be completely uninsured.

 

[KingSnake]

Some cold facts:

• Putin has now free hand in Europe
• Trump has access to the nuclear button starting next year. Trump, who can't control himself over Twitter
• There are no independent checks and balances left in US coming next January
• Bernie Sanders wasn't able to win even the Democratic primaries, get over it.

 

[mercenar1e]

Next time take the celebrities out of the campaign. I can't begin to explain how bad it just comes across. Get rid of the corruption, build a party focused on the people and distance yourselves from big banks and choose someone that isn't the most disliked politician in recent times.

 

[barneystuta83]

As a U.K. National and 'Remain' voter, I sort of know what close to half of America is going through.

Once the emotional response dies down, finger pointing and name calling, political figures need to take a long hard look at themselves. Too many every day people are disenfranchised with politics.

So much so a billionaire tycoon and reality TV star, with no political experience, won the most votes. How? Why?

I don't know the answers. I hope someone more aligned to my views finds the answers soon.

 

[Angel_DvA]

You are not the greatest poster in NeoGAF and never have been. Kidding aside, the Constitution was an incredible achievement, and don't forget our involvement in WWII, that we put the first man on the moon, our medical and scientific advancements, etc. What country would you put as tops? The word, "great", is a pretty subjective world, I realize, but I gotta know what ground you're standing on here.

Guess you're a trump voter, you'll be surprise at what other countries have done in their history.

 

[Massive Duck. C.M.]

Further proving my point. Sorry I said something you disagree with. I know what'll fix it! Call for a ban! Surely these forums aren't for discourse. I prefer my chambers much more echoey.

If you can show me succinctly how both sides are just as bad, I'll be receptive.

 

[Freshmire]

Awful shit to wake up too, heard nothing but laughter and mocking comments here in Norway. You are a literal joke now, I would laugh too if not for the millions affected by this.

Not sure what else there is to say. Good luck? Stay safe? I got nothing...

 

[Esiquio]

Did I hit a nerve? good.

So you're shitposting on purpose and don't want to engage in a little conversation, and now smug because you think you hit some nerve? Kind of weird, but okay. ¯\_(&#12484_/¯

 

[Skux]

You do not really compare Trump to Hitler?

Hell, even Hitler knew how to do a speech.

 

[Gorger]

My beard for today