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Donald J. Trump elected 45th President of the United States

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The media today is so surreal. Constantly you are hearing these pundits "We need to look at each other and start healing, finding common ground." Where the fuck was this while you were getting your rating instead?

Goddamn, if there's one thing I hope gets a major overhaul, its this media bullshit spin on this election.

The media should be talking about THEMSELVES and how they were an active agent in getting Trump into the White House. They're the ones who constantly gave him free coverage. They're the ones who conducted and reported on bogus polls that misled everyone.

Unfortunately the media's gonna media. They engage in destructive, irresponsible practices and look the other way when they cause terrible shit to happen.
 
You can point out whatever you like, you are more insightful and smarter than all the people that voted for Trump, but look how far that got you.

And your solution is to...?

Nobody's interested in welcoming these fuckers with open arms. You can work with them, but you do not have to accept them.

Trump supporters don't get to claim the moral high ground just because they won a popularity contest. They were deplorables in Nov 7th, they're deplorables on Nov 9th all the same.
 
I swear America does the same shit every 4 years.

Two candidates, one loses, the loser side gets all upset with "they'll never be my president" "oh im so sad RIP America I'm moving to Canada"

Get over yourself. You don't have to respect the person, but if you're American you should respect the position of president.

You're not a child, you're a voting adult.
 
I'm not buying these arguments that if Republicans weren't called names and laughed at that they would have voted differently. How often has a Republican changed allegiance? They stick to their political beliefs over generations, so to think if the media and those darn Dems had just treated them better they would have seen the light is just a bunch of nonsense.

Republicans were going to vote Republican no matter what. The political divide in the US is too immense for that to change. If you want to blame somebody, blame the 46% who didn't vote, not the ones who did.
 
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1 million per vote? 2.79 million per vote?

There's something that just sounds absolutely fucked about that.
 
What if Trump suprises everyone and becomes a decent leader?

It's sad when my hope is for a human being that's proven himself to be despicable in the past will suddenly be competent and fair as a powerful leader.

I'm not expecting anything but maybe I'll be surprised.

I swear America does the same shit every 4 years.

Two candidates, one loses, the loser side gets all upset with "they'll never be my president" "oh im so sad RIP America I'm moving to Canada"

Get over yourself. You don't have to respect the person, but if you're American you should respect the position of president.

You're not a child, you're a voting adult.
A friend of mine walked her dog today and got racial slurs hurled at her. And I live in a Blue State. Don't you dare try to take some kind of high ground to talk down on us because that ground is way shakier than you think.
 
It's completely false. Things like Obamacare address one of their concerns. But I guess it doesn't matter compared to a wall and vague promises of MAGA.

People just don't seem to get it, it is condescension like this that results in fucking themselves over. And they don't give a shit lol, as long as they feel superior to all the idiots that voted for Trump.
 
Thousands of people really did vote for fucking Harambe? It would be funny if it wasn't so sad. Like wtf, at least vote for a real, living candidate
 
I swear America does the same shit every 4 years.

Two candidates, one loses, the loser side gets all upset with "they'll never be my president" "oh im so sad RIP America I'm moving to Canada"

Get over yourself. You don't have to respect the person, but if you're American you should respect the position of president.

You're not a child, you're a voting adult.
I understand and ultimately agree with what you're saying but in this case where it's someone that literally wants the country to regress it's understandable.
 
Thank you for the replies everyone! I'm an european and simply curious if it could be a posibility. And no, of course I'm not as as informed as you guys are of indigenous politics. I'm just curious and trying to learn more of this subject.
 
I swear America does the same shit every 4 years.

Two candidates, one loses, the loser side gets all upset with "they'll never be my president" "oh im so sad RIP America I'm moving to Canada"

Get over yourself. You don't have to respect the person, but if you're American you should respect the position of president.

You're not a child, you're a voting adult.

Have you been following this election at all?

Do you really consider Obama and Trump to be the same?

This isn't "Booo, my party didn't win"

This is "Boo, I might actually lose some of my rights at best, killed at worst"
 
1 million per vote? 2.79 million per vote?

There's something that just sounds absolutely fucked about that.

he didn't even have a ground game.. didn't even know what get out the vote meant. let that sink in. Hillary was such an awful awful choice.
 
I swear America does the same shit every 4 years.

Two candidates, one loses, the loser side gets all upset with "they'll never be my president" "oh im so sad RIP America I'm moving to Canada"

Get over yourself. You don't have to respect the person, but if you're American you should respect the position of president.

You're not a child, you're a voting adult.

I feel like though when you have the Democrats, who have an attitude and temperament that is always trying to promote goodness and inclusiveness, and then you have the extreme right, who have done nothing but spew vile shit for a long time and ignore facts, which are things that go against basic, good-natured human instincts, it means something a bit different when i say i dont want a bigot and all around terrible person who isnt shy about it not top be my president. In fact nobody should want that but they voted it anyway because of completely irrational things
 
I love how any insensitive and callous thing trump said was absorbed in the "speaks his mind, tells it like it is" spin. Just heard a woman use that spin when asked why she voted trump

Grab them by the pussy? More truth that he speaks his mind and can be trusted (unlike crooked Hillary)! Ban Muslims? Says what everyone is thinking! Man of the people!

Excellent job running the campaign I gotta say
 
Gonna have to work from the ground up to stall any dumb thing that Congress/Trump proposes. Really organize. 4 more years of stalling and stagnating.
 
the more I think about it, the more pissed off I get at Comey

Fucking Comey

motherfucking asshole shitstain Comey
 
So I'm curious. Everywhere I'm looking today is doom and gloom.

My family. My co-workers. People on the street. Brief snippets of TV & online media.

Is there ANYONE who is dancing in the streets over these results?

I'm just not seeing it.

I live in VA and work in DC. Maybe I'm in a liberal bubble, but walking to work this morning, all I saw was an eerie silence. Everyone walking with their heads down.

You're gonna think this is hyperbolic, but it's not. The energy and mood was EXACTLY the same as the day after 9-11. I'm not even joking.

Just who exactly is celebrating right now?
 
And your solution is to...?

Nobody's interested in welcoming these fuckers with open arms. You can work with them, but you do not have to accept them.

Trump supporters don't get to claim the moral high ground just because they won a popularity contest. They were deplorables in Nov 7th, they're deplorables on Nov 9th all the same.

Again, you, like 95% of PoliGAF, are operating under the assumption that everyone that voted for Trump is racist and sexist and you don't care beyond that. The problem is that is wildly ignorant, to think that a democratic nominee couldn't have salvaged some votes by not calling everyone on the fence and on the other side racist and sexist is just absurd.
 
Thousands of people really did vote for fucking Harambe? It would be funny if it wasn't so sad. Like wtf, at least vote for a real, living candidate

In Finland there's always hundreds of votes for Donald Duck and a lot of other silly votes. This is in a country of 5 million people. In the last parliament elections there were about 14,500 votes rejected because of these silly votes.
 
He lost by millions of votes. Most dems/independents wanted Hillary. They went with Hillary.

There was evident bias against Bernie in the DNC. This showed in their funding and this showed in their influence over left-leaning media. Reports of voter suppression and fraud went un-investigated. There were a lot of independents that registered Dem to vote for Bernie. They wanted anti-establishment and unfortunately they got it.

I think the DNC needs to renew it's standing as an unbiased vehicle for the party in future primaries to earn less disdain from independents.

The apparent difference between the GOP and DNC(outside of the typical/obvious) this election is the DNC was able to stifle it's anti-establishment movement and the GOP wasn't.
 
So I'm curious. Everywhere I'm looking today is doom and gloom.

My family. My co-workers. People on the street. Brief snippets of TV & online media.

Is there ANYONE who is dancing in the streets over these results?

I'm just not seeing it.

I live in VA and work in DC. Maybe I'm in a liberal bubble, but walking to work this morning, all I saw was an eerie silence. Everyone walking with their heads down.

You're gonna think this is hyperbolic, but it's not. The energy and mood was EXACTLY the same as the day after 9-11. I'm not even joking.

Who is celebrating right now?

Correct. You are most certainly in a bubble. Clinton decimated Trump in DC, which is par for the course.

I can't seem to find the last time a Republican took DC on election night, but it hasn't happened in the last 56 years at least.
 
So I'm curious. Everywhere I'm looking today is doom and gloom.

My family. My co-workers. People on the street. Brief snippets of TV & online media.

Is there ANYONE who is dancing in the streets over these results?

I'm just not seeing it.

I live in VA and work in DC. Maybe I'm in a liberal bubble, but walking to work this morning, all I saw was an eerie silence. Everyone walking with their heads down.

You're gonna think this is hyperbolic, but it's not. The energy and mood was EXACTLY the same as the day after 9-11. I'm not even joking.

Just who exactly is celebrating right now?

More than half the country is celebrating.

You are in a bubble
 
So I'm curious. Everywhere I'm looking today is doom and gloom.

My family. My co-workers. People on the street. Brief snippets of TV & online media.

Is there ANYONE who is dancing in the streets over these results?

I'm just not seeing it.

I live in VA and work in DC. Maybe I'm in a liberal bubble, but walking to work this morning, all I saw was an eerie silence. Everyone walking with their heads down.

You're gonna think this is hyperbolic, but it's not. The energy and mood was EXACTLY the same as the day after 9-11. I'm not even joking.

Who is celebrating right now?

You can come stay in my guest room here in Southern Ohio if you want to see some smug white people.
 
the more I think about it, the more pissed off I get at Comey

Fucking Comey

motherfucking asshole shitstain Comey
The sad part is that most Trump voters made up their minds long before Comey, "grab them by the P", etc.

He had them at "wall". He had them at "ban on Muslim immigration".
 
And your solution is to...?

Nobody's interested in welcoming these fuckers with open arms. You can work with them, but you do not have to accept them.

The issue is just that this election tosses out some assumptions that we've had after the last two elections. There was a strong belief that the coalition that elected Bush twice had sufficiently eradicated as demographics continued to change. Trump defied all the sober analysis we saw after Romney's defeat and doubled down on a strategy that establishment Republicans didn't think would work. He won not only key battleground states, but also several states he wasn't expected to win.

Where I attack the problem from is pretend for a second that you're not a passionate voter but instead a Democratic strategist. What's the best move here going forward? Shame them for electing the guy they wanted and hope they'll see things our way in the next election or try to understand just how this happened and figure out a way to win some of these people back?

I get that there's an alternative theory here that in an election where fewer people cast votes that it can be argued that the problem isn't Obama voters voting Trump, but just that fewer Romney voters stayed home this year relative to Obama voters. Maybe you don't need the racist Trump vote. But are we sure about that?
 
This argument wasn't very popular on here during the campaign. People put their need to be right and to bully anyone who had views they disagreed with above trying constructively to create positive change. And this is the result.

If you want to know what lost this thing, start by looking at yourself and the way you behaved.

We weren't nice enough to bigoted assholes and those who are indifferent to the plight of others not like them at birth.

Compelling argument.
 
I think we saw the contrary--internet echo chambers like /pol/, The_Donald and even GAF aren't accurate representations of America, especially rural America. Trump ultimately won because he promised change to the ailing Rust Belt, not because of spicy memes or racism/xenophobia

I guess what I'm saying is that a strong presence on Twitter and engagement with your base via communities they congregate on may be more important in 2016 than the more traditional means of campaigning.

It's also very possible that rust belt voters are active on Reddit and 4chan. I thinks it's becoming dangerous to assume all these people are ineffectual basement dwellers.
 
This is amazing to me. I've seen this sentiment in several other threads today and last night. People actually think that our current political divide and Trump's victory resulted from internet condescension and liberals not being inclusive?

Fucking seriously?

That's why people voted for Trump? Because they were getting made fun of? Because "liberals" were too mean?

Economically stagnant rural communities provided ample opportunity for Trump to exploit basic scapegoatism and fear of the other. Immigrants, terrorists, you name it. Promise economic revitalization and protection from imaginary invaders to communities convinced that their dwindling resources resulted from foreign sources and, voilà, you've created an enthusiastic base - electoral fruit, ripe for the picking.

These people didn't turn out for Trump or turn against Clinton because they were being made fun of or generalized by liberals in their communities or people on the internet. They turned out because Trump described a threat that these people already believe exists, talked it up for months on end, and then promised to vanquish it and "bring back jobs." If you actually think they showed up to vote because liberals didn't try to include them or used mean words to describe them, then, man, you need to get a grip.

The bottom line is Trump found a successful strategy for turning out the base he cultivated. Hell, he won with fewer votes than Romney. Democrats, meanwhile, didn't show up, likely due to a number of reasons (apathy, lack of enthusiasm, etc.). The coup de grâce was systematically flawed polling in rural communities.

Add it up, and here we are. But let's be clear: "social justice warriors" and "patronizing comments" are not why Trump won.

Why was dem turnout down then? Trump didn't turn more people out Clinton got less. The right doesn't give a shit what the left says about them, and the left doesn't give a shit what the right says.

Clinton and her supporters divided the party. Everyone was so busy jerking off to how the fucked the other team was they didn't even fucking notice the bench was empty and no one wanted to actually vote for smug fucks.
 
I swear America does the same shit every 4 years.

Two candidates, one loses, the loser side gets all upset with "they'll never be my president" "oh im so sad RIP America I'm moving to Canada"

Get over yourself. You don't have to respect the person, but if you're American you should respect the position of president.

You're not a child, you're a voting adult.
Yeah, no. No one should be respecting that shitbird as a president. All he will do is fuck up America for ages. Save your respect for someone that actually earns it.
 
In Finland there's always hundreds of votes for Donald Duck and a lot of other silly votes. This is in a country of 5 million people. In the last parliament elections there were about 14,500 votes rejected because of these silly votes.

So fucking dumb. Memes should be left on the internet and not interfere with a election
 
I've been telling as much here and I've been told time and time again that minorities would save the day, that America wasn't a craddle of pasty racists like the UK and YASS QUEEN.

This is the angry scream of a silent yet large number of people who feel left out by traditional politics and who voted to a candidate who promised actual change (no matter how vacuous those promises may be) over other promising mere improvements. Sending Hillary against Trump was the equivalent to sending a lumbering armoured division to combat a ferocious, mobile and highly motivated guerrilla movement.

The Democratic party needs to lock itself in a room, think about its many mistakes and then start acting like they want to win not just the elections but the country.

I'm happy you're the first mod to address the brexit echo chamber. People were getting attacked for even pointing it out.
 
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