Yeah but it's technically not legal really. The state police will no longer enforce laws. Its still illegal federally and the federal government can technically force states to enforce the federal laws. They have just decided as of now not to.
Protests against Trump in NYC and other cities
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Yeah but it's technically not legal really. The state police will no longer enforce laws. Its still illegal federally and the federal government can technically force states to enforce the federal laws. They have just decided as of now not to.
Prototype Viktor
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People didn't even list to Bernie to not go 3rd party or neverhilary but doesn't mean they listen
unless a bird flies in
Has Trump not responded to this stuff going on yet?
He'll probably try to wait out the worst of it and hope it goes away I guess.
He can't dismiss them all now though. That would make things worse. He has to try to unify them all - he has no choice as he's got the job now, and does not have a police/military crackdown as an option.
I imagine his advisors are trying to discuss with him how he should respond, as the weight of what he has gotten himself into sinks in.
He'll probably try to wait out the worst of it and hope it goes away I guess.
He can't dismiss them all now though. That would make things worse. He has to try to unify them all - he has no choice as he's got the job now, and does not have a police/military crackdown as an option.
I imagine his advisors are trying to discuss with him how he should respond, as the weight of what he has gotten himself into sinks in.
Is there any explanation for this? https://twitter.com/CommanderLovely/status/796605837389266944
Tal Shiar Agent
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Its only going to get worse.
Electoral College actually creates weighted votes. Exact opposite of the point you are trying to make. JESUS.
What do you want explained. Angry Hilary supporters attacked a Trump supporter. Essentially giving Trump supporters EXACTLY what they want. And now they are using it against Hillary supporters and will continue to use that video as some kind of blanket defense that THEY are the peaceful and accepting ones. Good job violent assholes in the video!
Protesting is exactly that, handling it with dignity. How is protesting peacefully not dignified? The fuck am I reading in this topic.
paragonpro
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Good keep up the protests, through peaceful protests and organized stances, we can make sure at the least rights our protected
maquiladora
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That's a hell of a twitter account. Pro-Trump, Anti-"SJW", White Supremacist, Homophobic....
TBiddy
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Doesn't really change the content of the video though.
mordecaii83
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My problem with that video is people using it to somehow say "See, your side is no better than ours!"
The problem is, one candidate campaigned on hatred towards certain groups of people, whereas the other did not. One candidate seems to condone these actions, the other does not. THAT is the overwhelming difference between the two situations.
And I need to make it clear, this kind of violence is never ok, no matter who you are or what your "reasons" are.
Enter The 36 Chambers
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This is fucking dumb. He won the election. Do these people always cry and whine when they don't get everything they want?
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Green Yoshi
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Remember January 2001? People threw eggs at the car of Bush.
Are you saying my vote made less of an impact than my neighbors vote?
Point is, every citizen could vote no matter the sex, race, status(barring criminals,..), the people could make a decision, now with the electoral college in place some states are more important than others but no matter how big or small the state, each citizen's vote in a state could shift the electorate the same way. But the process was clear from the beginning.
You can disagree and say that the EC is unjust but 1 day after the election is too little too late.
Well you can sure as shit remove that avatar with an attitude like that.
Skinny Pete
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I am all for these protesters doing their thing. We can only hope this somehow gets through Trumps thick skull (and toupee) and that his talk is not going to be accepted in this country.
Baron von Loathsome
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He lost the popular vote, and yet he and his party have free reign for the next two years, probably four, with few checks or balances to speak of. We have a right to be pissed.
Yeah, fuck people using their democratic voice to express their concerns! What petty children they are! Their human rights are going to get fucked and they should just sit idly by watching that shit happen!
The EC is injust, and some votes literally, factually weight more than others. You're vote cannot shift the electorate the same way, because they're not the same between states.
Arthr2ShdsJcksn
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Protesting now is just sour grapes. We should be protesting ourselves for not doing more work in getting more voters to the polls.
Trump just won the election, I'd say his talk is widely accepted in the usa
We're people not alive 8 years ago? When Obama won is was like the sky falling
Tal Shiar Agent
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Obama didn't lose the popular vote.
This shit aint like getting the wrong order at McDonalds dude
Still didn't stop people from pissing and moaning even going so far as to call Obama the devil.
If people don't like the electoral college. Go out and vote for change. They didn't go out and vote.
Considering we are talking about a NATIONAL election. Yours and your neighbors vote being weighted the same is not relevant. You want to purport that all votes are fair? You can't when a vote in Arkansas has more of an effect than a vote in California on who wins.
I can only imagine how great it is punching a bigoted person, but that's not the right way to handle this whole mess.
Things will unfortunately get worse.
lemmykoopa
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I saw the protests on the tv news here in Belgium. It seemed to be mostly LGBT people protesting. Correct me if I'm wrong but I never saw anything in Trumps program stating he would take away these people's right once he would get elected? The only LGBT related comment I saw Trump ever make was that he's ok with a transgender human to choose whatever bathroom he wants to use.
Not the first case.
Hypocritical trash.
Edit: My link is broken. Please hold.
Edit edit: Mistakenly posted old video.
Dubbedinenglish
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His VP is probably the most anti-LGBT politician in the country. Also he will sign a bill making it ok to discriminate against LGBT people on the ground of religious freedom.
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Green Yoshi
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https://www.facebook.com/aljazeera/videos/10154846533703690/?pnref=story
Hope you see the difference.
wild wild rice
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I think RZA actually supported Trump. Or at least said he seems like a cool guy you want to have a slice of pizza with, a real New Yorker. Something like that.
By who? His party his full control of Congress.
Baron von Loathsome
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At least it's only slightly in control of the Senate. Hopefully some saner Republicans are willing to shut down his nonsense.
Pai Pai Master
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Yeah, fuck everyone in here downplaying people's right to organize
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I'm ashamed to be in the same country as you
Cosmo Clock 21
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Also, this didn't happen eight years ago after Obama won
http://m.neogaf.com/showthread.php?t=1311390
most people have been saying it since last time the EC screwed us when Al Gore got more votes and lost
just because you know going in that you can get more votes and still lose doesn't mean you have to be okay with it. this is fucked up.
Tal Shiar Agent
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They did vote. All of these protests are in cities where Clinton won handsomely.
GoldenEye 007
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Well this is protesting the reality that this wasn't a normal shitty GOP candidate getting in. A white supremacist got in and has control of the entire government.
Rust belt may have been concerned with their tax bracket, but minorities are concerned about their very lives. Already a surge in KKK activity and other hate motivated attacks.
I'd like to think that there were plenty of leaders within his party that did not support him and/or are prepared to reign him in.
Maybe I'm putting too much faith in humanity, and I'm sure too much faith in the Republicans.
mashoutposse
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These protests will have the opposite effect. Trump supporters will harden and weaker non-supporters will flip.
He won legitimately. To inconvenience people in states where he lost badly makes no sense.
BTW, if you didn't do all of the following at minimum:
-donate to Hillary
-phone bank for Hillary
-volunteer for Hillary
... you really need to get off the road and go back home.
He won legitimately. To inconvenience people in states where he lost badly makes no sense.
BTW, if you didn't do all of the following at minimum:
-donate to Hillary
-phone bank for Hillary
-volunteer for Hillary
... you really need to get off the road and go back home.
Tal Shiar Agent
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I'd hardly call it legitimate when voter suppression efforts by the GOP in several key states swung them to Trump.
If this were 2000, I would say the protests would be unreasonable.
But this is 2016, and the president-elect got there by denigrating those protesting. This is meant to be a reminder of who is the majority here. Showing up to protest in NYC should be promoted. No hate and fear-monger is going to get to destroy the social fabric of America's progressive society. These protests are a show of force and I hope they continue.
But this is 2016, and the president-elect got there by denigrating those protesting. This is meant to be a reminder of who is the majority here. Showing up to protest in NYC should be promoted. No hate and fear-monger is going to get to destroy the social fabric of America's progressive society. These protests are a show of force and I hope they continue.
Enter The 36 Chambers
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I agree with pretty much
I strongly believe in protesting and have attended a fair few over the years.
I can't ride with this one though. If you feel that strongly then maybe you should have worked harder for Hillary or donated money or whatever.
And for the record I feel the Obama and even bush protests were just as dumb if not more so.
Bruce Springsteen
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I still ultimately feel that these protests are meaningless, not that I necessarily disagree with them, the fact remains that he won the election and won quite easily, all this should've happened before the election when the voice could be heard
Brawly Likes to Brawl
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People in this thread do know that anti-trump protests have been happening throughout this election cycle, right? This isn't something that everybody just stayed silent about until November 9th.
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