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Buying a 4K TV for PS4K thread!
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Yes if you can accommodate it. Last time around I went from 46 to 50 and it felt like a huge jump. This time I'm probably going 55" if I can make room
Chocolate & Vanilla
Fuck Strawberry
So is the UK ks7000 the same as the US 8000?
Is that generally considered the best one to get for a max-budget of £1000?
Looking at the 55"
Is that generally considered the best one to get for a max-budget of £1000?
Looking at the 55"
Aztechnology
Member
Yes and yes.
I don't see this anywhere, still 1197 or more from all the various sellers.
Really tempted by the newegg deal, but it's a third party seller so who knows about delivery or returns.
Edit: think I'm going to go buy the 65 ks8000 at Best Buy today then price match using my discover the Black Friday price. Really hope I don't massively regret not getting Dolby vision in 3 years.
Chocolate & Vanilla
Fuck Strawberry
I'm heavily considering the LG OLED65B6P after going to the store with the intent of walking out with a Vizio P75-C1, wandering by the LG OLED's and my jaw dropping. Are there any owners of the LG posting here? Sounds like the input lag could be the only issue in regard to gaming. Any input?
The thread is buying a 4K tv for PS4 Pro. You ultimately want a television that hits the 4K and HDR notes while still having low input lag and an affordable price. That is the main reason you only really see the KS8000 or X800D mentioned. The B6 is one of the more expensive televisions on the market and it has issues with input lag cycling. LG has released firmware to get the lag ms down, but can still go as high as 55 ms+. So naturally you will see it recommended less in a gaming focused thread. But OLED is the future. The televisions don't get ridiculously bright yet, but the ultimate black levels really make HDR pop and they are Dolby Vision and HDR10 cerified meaning great future proofing. Image retention/burn in is a larger factor than the LED because of the way the screen is designed and works.
How do you know what HDR standard is the best one? For example, a friend is looking at this TV:
http://www.currys.co.uk/gbuk/tv-and...t-4k-ultra-hd-hdr-55-led-tv-10144760-pdt.html
However, I don't know how to tell whether it has the proper HDR standard. What should he be looking for?
http://www.currys.co.uk/gbuk/tv-and...t-4k-ultra-hd-hdr-55-led-tv-10144760-pdt.html
However, I don't know how to tell whether it has the proper HDR standard. What should he be looking for?
Hyperfludd
Member
Was thinking about this, friend picked it up and says it has HDR Pro. Which..I don't know if it's a marketing term or if it's actually true HDR?
I don't TV shop very often but I'd like to buy a new living room TV at this price. (Would be updating from this, so the refresh rate will take a hit from gaining 4K) Thing is, this seems to be a newish model and I can barely find info on it. I keep reading that new models that tend to pop up around black friday time are usually cop-outs so I'm a little suspicious.
Usual Suspect
Member
Do you have some link where i can see what model in US and Eu correspond?
It's so difficult to understand this differences.
I honestly feel like HDR is as important as 4K, but if you already have a UHD set, hold off until manufacturers sort out the backlight issues, brightness, standardize the specs even more etc.
Also, guys please read through the thread. Several of these questions have been asked and answered numerous times. Even just a few oages back.
Just went to richer sounds and a local department store to have a browse. They had all of my shortlisted TVs - Sony x800d (actually the x8577 but same price), Sony XD93, LG OLED B6 in 55". Unfortunately in richer sounds none had 4K inputs - only the 65" LG E6 did.
The sales assistant put Star Wars the force awakens trailer n bluray on both the LG B6 and then the Sony XD93, in that order. By comparison the Sony looked very flat and the blacks were quite grey, but then that might also have been the setup. The LG looked fantastic though.
The addition of free sky Q for a year (including a mini box so I can stream to my old TV in the spare room) helps to mitigate the extra cost, but £2000 is quite a step up from when I started looking at £999 sets like the x800d..
My local department store had the ks7000 for £999 with an offer for a Samsung UHD bluray player for £150. They also had the LG B6 and the guy said he'd probably be able to do me a deal on a UHD player if I went for that one. That particular UHD bluray has twin HDMI outputs (one for audio) so no issues with my receiver not being 4K compatible. Also comes with 3 free discs (Martian, revenant and Independence Day 2)
The sales assistant put Star Wars the force awakens trailer n bluray on both the LG B6 and then the Sony XD93, in that order. By comparison the Sony looked very flat and the blacks were quite grey, but then that might also have been the setup. The LG looked fantastic though.
The addition of free sky Q for a year (including a mini box so I can stream to my old TV in the spare room) helps to mitigate the extra cost, but £2000 is quite a step up from when I started looking at £999 sets like the x800d..
My local department store had the ks7000 for £999 with an offer for a Samsung UHD bluray player for £150. They also had the LG B6 and the guy said he'd probably be able to do me a deal on a UHD player if I went for that one. That particular UHD bluray has twin HDMI outputs (one for audio) so no issues with my receiver not being 4K compatible. Also comes with 3 free discs (Martian, revenant and Independence Day 2)
ViolentP
Member
Mine arrived at my local hub yesterday. Spoke to a rep and she said I would be called Monday to schedule the delivery.
RunWhiteBoyRun
Member
Is there a reason why I can't find many reviews on the Samsung UN60KU6270? Sam's Club is having a 1 day sale today and I'm curious how this set holds up for gaming.
http://www.samsclub.com/sams/4k-tv-...d20920251.ip?xid=plp15990825-shop:product:1:1
http://www.samsclub.com/sams/4k-tv-...d20920251.ip?xid=plp15990825-shop:product:1:1
Hyperfludd
Member
Probably the same reason I can't find much aside from Day 1 impressions from the LG 50UH5530 - new model for this month.
Hmm, it has been sneaking around in the shadows..I'll look more into it.
Same except mine was scheduled yesterday for a Monday delivery. They said I could pick it up if I wanted but they're only available from 1-5 and I'll be at work smh.
I believe a that's just a uh5500 without energy star compliance. High input lag and not very bright.
Best budget option is the Hisense H8C.
Just picked up the 55 inch for $500. Its a stunner. Looks better than the the $1800 Panasonic 65ax800u I sold. Checks all ticks on xbox one s except 3d.
Colors and contrast are drastically better. It's insane.
Was going to go with the Sony x800d but figured I would miss the screen real estate. 65 was too big for my new living room but 55 is perfect.
LandStalker
Member
This deal is over, right? Any chance we might see something like this again before Black Friday?
RunWhiteBoyRun
Member
Any concerns with the Hisense as far as gaming and lag?
ViolentP
Member
Hope I get that offer on Monday. I'll get out a but early and help tend to the wound that is Monday by setting up my new TV.
ElMexiMerican
Member
Do you guys think at 43 inches 4K is worth it? Noticed that Best Buy is gonna have an LG 43 inch 4K for 300, and after seeing impressions of the Pro on a 4K set I'm very interested.
RunWhiteBoyRun
Member
Well that really sucks... I'm itching for a 4K TV, and I like my Samsung 1080p. Not being able to find any info on the UN60KU6270 hurts.
Depends on your set up. If you're playing games in your room that would be great. If it's a living room TV it might be pretty small.
Ok, thank you and sorry.
michaelius
Banned
Yes but don't buy LG - LG uses fake 4k resolution in their cheaper TVs where they have don't have full RGB layout for all pixels.
I just played deus ex on my pc and didn't have any problems with lag. No problems on xbox either with quantum break.
1080p it has very good figures like 30, 4k 444 is 51. You can run it at 10 bit 4:2:2 and may be that improved 4k input lag? I don't notice any on pc even.
Here is an Xbox vid. Very responsive.
https://youtu.be/fKgw1yEZK_k
voodoowoolf
Neo Member
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I have a 40" Samsung UE40KU6000 and it works a treat.
MastAndo
Member
It's still available for that price on Amazon if you check other sellers (Video & Audio Center). I guess I didn't realize this last night in my sleepy haze, but I purchased through them, not directly through Amazon. They're at 99% positivity, though I'm trying to find out more info about their return/exchange policy now, just in case.
All valid points. Though I'm not even sure the XD93 will handle dynamic metadata or not!
Welcome to my world! I started looking at something that might cost me £1000 and ended up at £1600, though that should come down to £1300 after cashback and selling the soundbar.
It's little surprise that the XD93 looked flat compared to the OLED screen, though as you say it might well have been the settings. When I saw the 65 and 55" versions of the XD93 in John Lewis they both looked fantastic, but they also weren't sitting next to a OLED!
How do the OLEDs fare with input lag again?
Oddvintagechap
Banned
I currently have the KS8000 series and PS4 Pro. I don't notice much of a difference. Sad.
Outtrigger888
Member
I don't think battlefield supports HDR
I've only spent an hour with my ks8000 and my PS4 pro but I agree, it is SUPER underwhelming. I was expecting to be blown away reading others impressions. Really hoping I have a setting wrong.
I think it really depends on what game you're playing. Not all games are getting patches, specifically older games.
Battlefield One doesn't support HDR as of yet. They may add it in the future but, for now, its an increased resolution and framerate. It still looks great, though. Try Ratchet & Clank if you want to try out HDR gaming.
Does it make any sense to get a 65" 4K TV if the viewing distance is about 2m (6.5 feet)? For games (PC with 980 Ti and more powerful future GPUs, PS4 Pro), Netflix/HBO streaming, some SD TV and the occasional Bluray?
At the moment the model (Samsung KS7005 aka the Nordic KS8000) I'm looking at is priced so that 55" is cheapest, 60" the most expensive and 65" on sale between the two. Since the price difference between 55" and 65" is only about 200 euros I am considering the bigger model.
I currently use a 50" Panasonic ST50 plasma which I bought based on what was the recommended viewing distance for 1080p but I think I could have gone a bit bigger no problem. However I don't know how a huge 65" 4K TV would be in the same spot, other than causing some issues for speaker placement. rtings.com size calculator suggests even larger for 4K to "be worth it".
Any recommendations?
At the moment the model (Samsung KS7005 aka the Nordic KS8000) I'm looking at is priced so that 55" is cheapest, 60" the most expensive and 65" on sale between the two. Since the price difference between 55" and 65" is only about 200 euros I am considering the bigger model.
I currently use a 50" Panasonic ST50 plasma which I bought based on what was the recommended viewing distance for 1080p but I think I could have gone a bit bigger no problem. However I don't know how a huge 65" 4K TV would be in the same spot, other than causing some issues for speaker placement. rtings.com size calculator suggests even larger for 4K to "be worth it".
Any recommendations?
I was playing ratchet and clank, there's a thread saying it is required playing for ps4 pro owners so assumed it was the one to go to.
Do you have UHD Colour enabled? You might not be getting 4K HDR if you don't.
They seem about the same. B6 seems to vary which is odd, but about 58ms. XD93 recently got a firmware update to about the same (in HDR mode).
Going to try and take a USB stick with 4K content on to JL and some example settings from avforums and see if they'll let me play with the remotes. Are there good sites to download test clips from?
They are trying to make an immersive viewing experience that doesn't allow you to see pixel structure. You still need to decide whether it's too big for you at that distance.
No idea where to get some content from. Wouldn't mind getting something myself just to help calibrate.
I did have that setting on, but something was wrong, or maybe the first two levels of r&c just aren't that impressive. I changed a bunch of settings and got to the first real level of r&c (where you can upgrade first weapon) and the HDR hit me. Or maybe it's just the tv being better, but the colors are amazing.
Also, for film content I tried daredevil season 2, which is marked as hdr by netflix but apparently isn't and was understandably disappointed. I now have tried marco polo and I see how great hdr is. Although daredevil season 1 supposedly is hdr and that wasn't all that impressive, but did see it in city lights.
ElMexiMerican
Member
Thanks guys, looking like I'll steer away from LG in favor of Samsung. Costco's going to have a 40KU6000 on sale for 289 in another week or so, will probably end up picking that up as long as money's not too tight. Sounds like it'd be perfect for my bedroom.
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