If publishers try to sell full priced ports of old games on the Switch again...

Burny

Member
...may we just assume they don't have any serious intention to gain a foothold with the Switch's eventual audience for their games?

Assuming the implied Skyrim port turns out to be real, imagine it'll be sold at 60$ while on every other system, the Skyrim Legendary Edition has been out for a while and is sold at a notably marked down price (more likely than not). Unless we want to overhype the added mobility of the Switch as "not the same content", another gold nugget from the Wii U days, I'd feel pretty stupid as a Switch customer having to shell out more than anyone else.

The setup looks a bit too similar to what EA pulled with Mass Effect 3 on the Wii U for me. They sold that port for full price, while simultaneously releasing the trilogy including all three games on the other platforms for full price. They went on to drop support for the Wii U due to lack of audience. A fool who thinks your attempts at building an audience lackluster, when you put so much effort in bullshitting potential customers.
 

LewieP

Member
I think they will be able to get away with it for hugely popular titles at or around launch (so Skyrim), but yeah before long they'll need to transition to either release date parity, or budget pricing.
 

Maximo

Member
No one really bought the WiiU many will rebuy games that they never played before, plus most Nintendo games really don't receive price cuts..so honestly some old WiiU games will probably cost the same as Switch games.
 

Burny

Member
Lol Skyrim will be full price of course

you really think the will sell this discounted ?

No, of course not. That would be too much common sense. It's a new Nintendo console, so as a third party, who wouldn't dig for gold as hard as possible before dropping support, rather than try to build up an actual audience? :p

No one really bought the WiiU many will rebuy games that they never played before, plus most Nintendo games really don't receive price cuts..so honestly some old WiiU games will probably cost the same as Switch games.

That's fine for Nintendo games which kind of live in their own bubble, although the marked down line of games exists even there. But Skyrim is a 2011 game available outside of Nintendos bubble. The point of reference is there and not acting like it's a newly developed 2017 full price release in the Nintendo bubble would a very refreshingly pro consumer move for a change. If I were a Nintendo only consumer, rather than having bought the Skyrim GOTY for some 15 quid during Steam sales, thus getting the "Legendary Edition" for free, I'd feel pretty dumb shelling out some 60$ in 2017.
 
But this time PS4 and Xbox One have trained people to be ok with expensive rehashes of games that are anywhere from 2 to 10 years old instead of expecting new games.
 
Well, they're also going to be technically inferior versions. The selling point is that you can play these games in handheld mode. If you only intend on playing them on your TV, you'll be paying more for an inferior experience if you have either of the other consoles or a gaming PC.
 

Protome

Member
I think that's a weird connection to make

People seem to think that 3rd party on the Switch lives and dies by Skyrim, It's weird
Nintendo fans somehow got it into their head that the Wii U had bad third party support because publishers only put out expensive ports at launch, rather than because Nintendo failed to sell any consoles and there was nobody to sell games to.

Its not 3rd parties jobs to sell Nintendo's console for them. If the Switch doesn't get any support from them it's because Nintendo didn't make it an appealing platform for them to sell games on.
 

Vuze

Member
The demasters that make up what feels like 30% of Xbox One and PS4 library say hello

Of course it will be full price and of course people will buy it as the past has shown. Switch versions atleast have the additional novelty of hybrid gaming.
 

sknygy

Neo Member
Despite adding new content I honestly cant see Nintendo charging more than £30 (New UK games usually £40-50) for Splatoon/MK8. Hopefully they support/subsidise select third parties to do the same. Skyrim should be this price for sure. Lego City should have pricing parity with PS4/XBO
 
At least Nintendo Selects will kick in later in like 2018. I think we can bet on Skyrim being full priced.

Are people just unaware of the Xbox One and PS4 versions? Seen lot posts compare it to Legendary Edition or the original 2011 release.
 

Alphahawk

Member
Here's the thing though: You'll buy it. Every time someone mentions something about Skyrim on Switch people get super excited. That does not sound to me like a budget title. Same with MK8/Splatoon/Mario Maker, but even double there because Nintendo knows that a ton of people never played the original so they don't have to sell it as "recycled".
 

NEO0MJ

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I can already see Ubisoft selling Watch Dogs 2 at full price and then a week later announce a double pack with all DLC for PS4&X1 at a discount
 

Hoo-doo

Banned
You're getting full-priced ports whether you like it or not.

And worse, people need to actually buy them en masse if they ever want these third parties to keep supporting the Switch.
We all know they won't, because ~80% of the Nintendo userbase is content with just a handful of Nintendo titles and calls it a day.
 

KHlover

Banned
You're getting full-priced ports whether you like it or not.

And worse, people need to actually buy them en masse if they ever want these third parties to keep supporting the Switch.
We all know they won't, because ~80% of the Nintendo userbase is content with just a handful of Nintendo titles and calls it a day.
Numbers from your arse. That being said, if a game doesn't have local mp and is multiplat I'm probably still going to play it on PC 9/10 times :p
 

cw_sasuke

If all DLC came tied to $13 figurines, I'd consider all DLC to be free
lol some of you are really delusional when it comes to launch hype - thats the season where you can get away with most because new console owners are extra thirsty for games and content. Of course the game will be full prices - they can still drop the price after the launch hype died down a bit.
 

TAJ

Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that.
Skyrim will most likely be $60 on Switch. It's messed up, but that's just how these things usually work.

The demasters that make up what feels like 30% of Xbox One and PS4 library say hello

Of course it will be full price and of course people will buy it as the past has shown. Switch versions atleast have the additional novelty of hybrid gaming.

"demasters"
Edgy.
 

ramparter

Banned
The setup looks a bit too similar to what EA pulled with Mass Effect 3 on the Wii U for me. They sold that port for full price, while simultaneously releasing the trilogy including all three games on the other platforms for full price. They went on to drop support for the Wii U due to lack of audience. A fool who thinks your attempts at building an audience lackluster, when you put so much effort in bullshitting potential customers.
Imo this is the key. If Skyrim is released full priced and it sells for 30$ at the other platforms it will be rough.
 

Garraboa

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But this time PS4 and Xbox One have trained people to be ok with expensive rehashes of games that are anywhere from 2 to 10 years old instead of expecting new games.

Thing is, if they want those old rehashes or ports, they can already get them on PS4/Bone/Steam, for a song probably. They're not gonna get them on Switch at full price cause they're not invested in that ecosystem, regardless of how widely accepted remasters are nowadays. Those people need a bit more incentive to get these remasters on a Nintendo platform.
 

Hoo-doo

Banned
Numbers from your arse. That being said, if a game doesn't have local mp and is multiplat I'm probably still going to play it on PC 9/10 times :p

The actual number is unknown obviously, but the Nintendo userbase has been proven to be very fickle towards non-Nintendo titles in the past. It's bitten them in the ass for a few generations now.
 
Ok, I can get Skyrim being full priced (since it would be a six month difference right?) and even the Mario Kart and SSB ports since they have all of the DLC, but what about something that's bare bones, like the Lego city Undercover port? It's only $20 on Wii U, so there has to be something special, right?

Then again, if they go the Capcom route this gen with $20 ports..
 
The demasters that make up what feels like 30% of Xbox One and PS4 library say hello

Of course it will be full price and of course people will buy it as the past has shown. Switch versions atleast have the additional novelty of hybrid gaming.

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Anticol

Banned
It is obvious this will happen, in fact nintendo will be the one doing this the most it is already rumoured that splatoon will come with the more expensive version of the switch and you will see ports of smash bros, mario kart and plenty of more wiiu games.

In all seriousness how many new games are you expecting for the launch?
 

Spectone

Member
I would buy such a title if I did not have it elsewhere or if I wanted a portable version. I don't really see the fuss. You don't have to buy it if you don't want to.
 

Burny

Member
I agree they shouldn't sell any of these remasters for anything more than $40.

Yeah, that would be pretty good. But publishers will milk people's nostalgia or those people coming "late to the party" as hard as they can get away with. If people pay 60$ for an old game's port, regardless of the system, publishers will ask for 60$.

That's more or less fine on other systems, because we can after all still vote with our wallet. But on Nintendo systems it's linked to the "there's no audience" excuse. Sure, Nintendo builds underpowered systems mainly for their own games and also did a terrible job of selling it in the Wii U's case on top of it, but putting a Wii U port next to the PS360 ports that include the remaining two Mass Effect games for the same price, makes your game a terrible value proposition.

I think Nintendo themselves will be guilty of selling full priced ports too. At the least it'll be $50.

May very well be the case. Maybe they'll give people who bought the games digital on Wii U a discount as they did for some VC ports, but we'll see about that. I wouldn't limit the complaint about full priced ports of old games to any system, publisher or dev, but the Wii U's Mass Effect 3 port is about the worst example of bullshitting customers I've seen so far.
 

dtm808

Member
Only thing i can see helping win over consumers is the fact that you can play it anywhere. Its obviously not as strong of a selling point here but i could see this being a huge deal in japan. Tons of people might choose the switch versions of games over ps4 (even if its more expensive) just because of the portability.
 
I would buy such a title if I did not have it elsewhere or if I wanted a portable version. I don't really see the fuss. You don't have to buy it if you don't want to.
I agree, and personally I don't buy remasters at full price. The problem for Nintendo is that this causes few people to buy third party games, among other reasons, which in turn leads to a lack of future support from those third parties.

One issue for the Switch is that because it has such a different architecture and less power than the PS4 and XB1, porting games is going to require more work. For those consoles, if you start with the PC version, then you are already a good way towards a PS4/XB1 version. The difficulty in porting to the Switch is going to make publishers less likely to sell games for less on it.
 

Evilmaus

Member
The most important thing for Nintendo is to get their first party exclusives out the door quickly (while not sacrificing quality), while maintinging a steady stream of third-party titles (not necessarily exclusives) throughout the switch's lifecycle.

If they need to price their launch titles (port or not) at full price then so be it, but they can't leave it an entire year before those titles come down in price to make way for a new wave. I think the biggest doubt over the Switch will end up being the library and 3rd party support. As long as they come out strong and quell those fears then it'll do just fine, but they cannot rely on full-priced ports of old games in the long-term.
 
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