5 of Street Fighter V Season 2 characters are going to be newcomers
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lucebuce12
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They've publicly said time and time again that they're in it for the long haul, even the CEO of Capcom said so. And Ono specifically said that the game has support planned until 2020.
Gotta ask though, why do you hate this game so much?
SplitYourInfinities
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I bought the game day one.
I even bought the season pass and some costumes.
I play it almost every day with friends.
I want this game to be good, that's why I can't defend the shit Capcom is trying to pull. A lot of people I know (long time SF players) already dropped the game after the shitty launch and the rootkit fiasco.
Laurel_McFang
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I actually think the new characters are usually quite good. C. Viper is like a KoF character done right, the oily wreslter was awesome and unique, Rufus reached tourney play, el furete was cool. My point being new usually means better and SF V has already been about differences i.e. Ken and Ryu having different v triggers or Nash and Guile working differently. Anyways still haven't really touched SF V yet so maybe a price drop and some new characters will do it for me.
lucebuce12
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How is adding new characters going to hurt the game in any way? Some would argue that it's a good thing, adding completely new characters with new playstyles means that roster will be different from previous Street Fighters.
SplitYourInfinities
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Because a lot of people was expecting to see their mains from previous games (Sakura
). I don't see newcomers as a bad thing, as long as they bring back some classic characters that would bring more variety to the current roster (C. Viper, Rose, Makoto). Also, If that image posted turns to be true, it would show that Capcom is just being cheap.Nah, the game will still be played. I'm sure Season 3 will be a return to classic characters.
Because a lot of people was expecting to see their mains from previous games (Sakura
how is that them being cheap?
Not completely 1:1, but damn that's close. I wouldn't be surprised if this is true at all.
SplitYourInfinities
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Some models are already in the game, even with a moveset. So for Capcom is a "free" character, with almost no cost involved in the development of season 2.
He'll likely headline the 2018 season pass.
I'm pretty sure none of the Dolls will be in season two. I'm so positive that I'd bet on it.
of that picture only 2 have models already and one of them doesn't have a moveset at all and the one that does have a moveset would need some overhauling. so there's voice work, animations, game design, testing, etc that needs to be done for all 5 characters still. An example of capcom being cheap was USFIV where they just brought over SF x T characters and made some adjustments so they fit within the system.
ColonialHawk
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Only Kolin and the Doll (Satsuki) have models and Satsuki's moveset was mix of Cammy and some sword techniques. They'll definitely add more to Satsuki and Kolin was never even shown to have moveset. And nothing is free in game development.
Also I thought Satsuki was pretty cool.
I hated the SFIV newcomers
SFV newcomers were great excluding 1 character.
Laura, Necalli and Rashid were great additions
However I still think an entire season with newcomers is a mistake in terms of hype. They should have gone with 3 new and 3 veterans. And the release schedule should switch between old and new.
So
Akuma
New
C. Viper
New
Sagat
New
SFV newcomers were great excluding 1 character.
Laura, Necalli and Rashid were great additions
However I still think an entire season with newcomers is a mistake in terms of hype. They should have gone with 3 new and 3 veterans. And the release schedule should switch between old and new.
So
Akuma
New
C. Viper
New
Sagat
New
Tizoc
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They had to put costs into making the pre-existing model to begin with. You'd complain if they made new models anyways.
kingofthedead45
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They used the same wording with decapre iirc
DR2K
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That's because they haven't added her. Just a completely different character in a new skin.
That's what your forum tag says.
MatrixMan.EXE
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Troll post?
This is pretty convincing imo.
SneakersSO
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Quite a few characters don't match up, and Ryce has already said a doll is not making it into season 2.
SneakersSO
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Because a lot of people was expecting to see their mains from previous games (Sakura
Hang on - why wouldn't adding ALL NEW CHARACTERS not add variety back into the current roster. Heck, the new characters in SFV are far more 'original' than most newcomers in series history (FANG & Rashid alone would constitute this).
Of the 3 characters you listed, the only one with a respectable chance of making it in was C.Viper, and thats just cause they obviously have thought about what her SFV design would look like (we see her in the story modes for other characters). Btw, classic charactes like the ones you listed still have a very likely chance of being added into the game in a later year. I know we forget quite easily, but SF4 didn't just start with Ultra's roster size - it was added onto until it became that large. SFV is less than a year old, and is going to end its 1st calendar year with 7 new characters, bringing the count to 23. By this time next May, we might be at 28. There is an absolutely large chance that year 3 will be a total 'nostalgia' season & only classic characters get added.
synce
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Only the middle guy matches, and Kolin if you use her alternate costume. The other 3 not really. That would be a terrible lineup though
This whole thing is really a punch in the gut. Why does Akuma return and not Sakura? Do we really need another male shoto?
I wish people would stop acting like this is the end of SFV. We're getting several more years of new characters. Capcom knows that Akuma, Sagat, and Sakura are their biggest characters left, so they're being spread out over multiple seasons.
I like the spirit of it... for me 3s is the pinnacle of the genre from a conceptual standpoint along with the gameplay, audio/visual elements, etc. If I want to play the likes of Sagat, Sakura, etc that badly I'll pick up any of several dozen fighting games that he's featured in -- and probably be able to play it online. I'll never truly understand the "It's not (insert series) for me if (insert character) isn't in it" stuff. In a fighting game, the more new shit the better for me. New stages, new characters, new combos/mechanics. How many people bitched about Cammy, Vega and Guile not being in Street Fighter Alpha, instead we got some wannabe-Ryu schoolgirl, a wannabe Guile, a fishnet wearing ninja from Final Fight, etc. Lo and behold, SFA was successful and those characters became popular. I'm not saying people don't have a right to feel a certain way, just that I can't sympathize.
With all that said, in the context of SFV this reads to me like a mixed message from Capcom. Season 2 would've been the perfect time to reintroduce characters that were in high demand and sprinkle some new ones in. They have to literally sell these characters, after all, and a game that's doing well can afford to take risks like this. A game that isn't? Well, I guess it's good for people like me, but I don't really understand the decision!
With all that said, in the context of SFV this reads to me like a mixed message from Capcom. Season 2 would've been the perfect time to reintroduce characters that were in high demand and sprinkle some new ones in. They have to literally sell these characters, after all, and a game that's doing well can afford to take risks like this. A game that isn't? Well, I guess it's good for people like me, but I don't really understand the decision!
The game didnt meet its initial sales target, but maybe the DLC (especially costumes) is selling well enough for Capcom to consider the game a success. The CPT DLC bonus pot alone was massive. They probably wouldnt have gone this route with season two if they were in as much trouble as some of us think theyre in.
TotalMackerel
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I think some of the decision might be based on reaching out to people who haven't played yet and think 5 is just a rehash of 4. I'm ok with getting new characters and I assume our favorites will make it eventually. Also, might be better to get newcomers in now before everyone gets their favorites back and settle in to only using them.
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SneakersSO
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Any time is a perfect time to reintroduce characters. The game is doing well on its DLC, costumes & merch is selling well (to the audience the game has built up, which isn't negligible) and people are viewing the CPT in increasing numbers. I don't think if they added Sagat, Sakura & whatever other fan favorite people want is going to flip the script on their success overnight. Adding in characters just doesn't work that way.
Characters will be bought if they look interesting & if they are doing well on the competitive level. Thats how its always worked. Thats why we had such high demand for several characters that either looked cool or did well on some competitive front. Notice that the demand for, say, Necro or Twelve is far smaller than it is for Makoto, Dudley, Sagat, and Sakura, which are all characters used on the competitive level & people have developed a surrounding for that character, their playstyle, and the 'hype' they can generate. Heck, Necalli is easily the most popular of the V newcomers, and thats because he's been the most competitively viable.
With a brand new season cast being introduced, Capcom gets a chance at appealing to players who might not normally check out a Street Fighter game cause none of the characters typically appeal to them. They also get to sell more merch, have hype moments when they are announced, sell more DLC & costumes for the fans who do wind up appreciating the newcomers, and really flex their design muscle by coming up with new & exciting gameplay kits.
Seriously. If they want more people to buy shouldn't they be bringing in at least some characters we want?
lucebuce12
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thelastword
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Nice, need Sagat, Thawk and Hugo though, but the big guy in that pic looks interesting. They all do tbh....
Turtling can only get a franchise so far you need to attack
The characters you like were once new too.
No one does. Unless you are a time traveller.
lucebuce12
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They aren't newcomers people. Capcom lied or misdirected about Akuma , they flat out declined to say they were making a new Marvel by specifying "we aren't making MVC4" ... and it's called infinite instead.
Saying these people are brand new to street fighter .... 5 is what's going on.
Remember, thanks to data mining and whatnot just about every single thing about SFV leaked ahead of announcement so Capcom won't admit anything now until they've got a trailer ready.
For one thing the portrait on the right just looks like Akuma's silhouette(although the legs are different so ??? , the bottom right corner seems cut off , to the left of that akuma looking shadow is clearly Sakura.
The Center is probably Azzam , to the right of the actual akuma picture I'd be surprised if that wasn't just C.Viper. To Vipers right , I'm saying it's Sagat with a big bushy beard.
So - Akuma - C.Viper - Sagat - Azzam - Sakura - ???? and I honestly have no idea who that ???? could be , I'd say Blanka because of the crazy haircut but then why are the legs so skinny. Maybe that one slot will be a brand new character that wasn't even hinted at in season 1.
I mean, honestly I'm not going to knock the game if they do throw in brand new characters I'll just be surprised if that's actually the case is all.
Saying these people are brand new to street fighter .... 5 is what's going on.
Remember, thanks to data mining and whatnot just about every single thing about SFV leaked ahead of announcement so Capcom won't admit anything now until they've got a trailer ready.
For one thing the portrait on the right just looks like Akuma's silhouette(although the legs are different so ??? , the bottom right corner seems cut off , to the left of that akuma looking shadow is clearly Sakura.
The Center is probably Azzam , to the right of the actual akuma picture I'd be surprised if that wasn't just C.Viper. To Vipers right , I'm saying it's Sagat with a big bushy beard.
So - Akuma - C.Viper - Sagat - Azzam - Sakura - ???? and I honestly have no idea who that ???? could be , I'd say Blanka because of the crazy haircut but then why are the legs so skinny. Maybe that one slot will be a brand new character that wasn't even hinted at in season 1.
I mean, honestly I'm not going to knock the game if they do throw in brand new characters I'll just be surprised if that's actually the case is all.
In what timeline did that happen? There are huge differences between them rolling out 5 new characters in a game filled with already returning characters, and a game where everyone but two were new. And that didn't kill or nearly kill anyone's FGC. Unless again, you are talking about a different timeline. Maybe one of the ones Trunks created. Not sure.
A lot of the characters people want from past games are already in the game. This isn't a New Generation situation. Street Fighter V is going to keep growing with other Capcom fighters.
UltimateUnknown
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New characters should always be welcomed. We don't need more and more older characters in a sequel.
Make it Shadow Jago and you've got a deal.
Oh yeah... I remember. That was around the same time Tekken 3 released in the arcades and then went on to sell more than 8 million copies.
The FGC almost disappeared.