5 of Street Fighter V Season 2 characters are going to be newcomers
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I mean sure...but considering fan requests like Juri and Alex (and Urien apparently) aren't exactly the same either. What is the difference? Either way there is a chance that you aren't happy. As of right now, yeah you probably shouldn't by the season pass...we have no clue what any of these characters are going to be. Thats fine. But this idea that everything would be better if the same ole faces would show up, doesn't jive with me.
Who knows...perhaps one of the 5 is Better Sakura or Better Sagat.
It just feels like people immediately expect the worse (and yeah Capcom's recent history...perhaps yeaaaaaaah); BUT sans Laura (real big miss IMO), the 3 newcomers have found their fans (yes even FANG)...hell I even saw a few Laura's this weekend. Be happy for those people and hope that you could join them by having one of the 5 appeal to you. I think people make things a lot worse for themselves by immediately expecting bad things....have some hope.
ColonialHawk
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Lol people complained about the season pass for S1 not saying what characters would come with it.
There's no need to announce the new characters right now. Capcom is letting us have fun guessing and then when the patch drops the 20th we'll datamine the shit out of it.
There's no need to announce the new characters right now. Capcom is letting us have fun guessing and then when the patch drops the 20th we'll datamine the shit out of it.
direct_quote
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They're not going to sell season passes at the beginning if people know a bunch of new characters that aren't fan favorites are being added and that's when you will sell a good chunk of the passes.
LincolnTunnel
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If they're completely new characters, there's nothing to guess. That's not fun at all. They could at least give us something more as a hint, because silhouettes of characters we've never seen before tell us absolutely nothing.
Fright Zone
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New to the mainline SF series? Or new to the universe?
As it says universe, does that also rule out Final Fight characters that haven't been in a SF game yet? Does that rule out SFEX characters, Ingrid, characters like Azam (who is now technically part of the SF universe)?
It's kind of ambiguous.
Oh well, while I'm keen to see a lot of returning characters, I'm also pleased they're trying something new. And then if these don't sell well I guess Season 3 will be just big hitters (Sagat, Sakura, Blanka, Honda, Cody, Fei Long?)
As it says universe, does that also rule out Final Fight characters that haven't been in a SF game yet? Does that rule out SFEX characters, Ingrid, characters like Azam (who is now technically part of the SF universe)?
It's kind of ambiguous.
Oh well, while I'm keen to see a lot of returning characters, I'm also pleased they're trying something new. And then if these don't sell well I guess Season 3 will be just big hitters (Sagat, Sakura, Blanka, Honda, Cody, Fei Long?)
SolarPowered
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Most of them sucked. I've used Alex for hundreds of matches and I still wish I hadn't spent money on him (should have bought Guile even if he has never excited me much). If the buffs are good I'll buy the S1 pass at a low price during this upcoming steam sale since I'm only getting 5 characters. What people said about characters being "new to the universe" makes Ingrid possible, though. If she is in there and the S2 DLC cast isn't butt then I might just buy the pass way sooner at full price.
RecRoulette
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Said this in the Capcom Cup thread but I feel like they wouldn't be doing this unless they had guest characters from other series showing up. Get your Heihachis and your Kyos in there.
Otherwise this is a really hard sell for a season pass.
Otherwise this is a really hard sell for a season pass.
ColonialHawk
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You can only sell season passes at the beginning? S1's pass became really good/worth it when Urien dropped and when they added the colors 3-10 for both outfits. That was in September, months after they announced the pass.
I mean they will give us a hint eventually. Why does it have to be right now? And yeah i guess if they are brand spanking new, never-before-seen characters then guessing would be hard but im sure theres hints somewhere in SFV and the CFN portal.
LincolnTunnel
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I think it's pretty important for them to sell season passes early on. If they're not making money, they're not going to be putting as much money into the game in the future.
I'd want them to give us a hint right now, because what they've already shown us is pointless. The whole point of releasing those silhouettes is to get people interested in and excited for Season 2. Releasing that picture and then telling us that all the characters are brand new and not providing any other info immediately deflates hype. There's nothing to get excited about because we have no context to the silhouettes. There's nothing to guess at this point. If they want to sell season passes, they need to provide more.
Eh, not really. A lot of people (myself included) plan on buying every character released for this game regardless of who they are.
This is exactly how I feel. We have a lot of old characters in this game. Ready for some new blood, like in 3. Yeah I want Sagat in, but I'd rather some new people. I really hope Ed makes it this season.
CrispyBoar
Banned
Hell, Marvel Vs. Capcom: Infinite is going to wind up receiving a lot of attention more so than SF V will once it's out. Even from tournament players. The only reason that people play SF V in tournaments at this point is for the prize money.
SF V just doesn't have the same charm as SF IV & it's iterations.
Professor Lexicovermis
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What about Karate Clown?
Spirit of Jazz
Banned
Let's go Akira!
And I totally see Ingrid now that she's mentioned. Hopefully Haggar too?
Nope. I don't want to see what the character artists of this game would do to Akira's badass duds.
Happy that the cast are all new though given I thought the non SFIV cast members were way more fun to play as in V.
SneakersSO
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SFV has had the highest amount of competitive entrants in tournaments than any other fighter in FGC history. It has some of the best backing a fighting game has had. Its also going to be continually supported.
You're right that MvC:I will receive a lot of attention from most ordinary people, and thats because Marvel characters appeal to a wider audience than just Street Fighter. But is its competitive scene going to eclipse SFV? No. Not even close. You can believe it will, but you're gonna be staring in disbelief as SFV continues to do more competitively at events like EVO, both in terms of streamers & entrants, than any other game.
Thin White Duke
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I think the new characters (from looking at the silhouettes and some art) are the following:
Judging by the way they worded it, I want to think they meant characters who don't have a playable / non NPC-controlled form in the series. I could easily be wrong about this and I'm willing to change my mind if so.
My reasons for why these are based on the similarities with specific details between the silhouettes and the art. Not to mention some of them are a bit obvious after looking at specific art based on the guesses.
- Helen
- Gotetsu
- Matthew (Delta Red member, has cybernetic implants.)
- Satsuki
- Luke (a character from the cancelled Capcom Fighting All-Stars)
Judging by the way they worded it, I want to think they meant characters who don't have a playable / non NPC-controlled form in the series. I could easily be wrong about this and I'm willing to change my mind if so.
My reasons for why these are based on the similarities with specific details between the silhouettes and the art. Not to mention some of them are a bit obvious after looking at specific art based on the guesses.
I'd much rather we get no more East Asian characters at all (they've got enough representation to last for ages) and get folks from India, Eastern Europe, Sub-Saharan Africa, Latin America, etc... and we'd be good. In this instance Tekken is doing a much better job of having a global roster.
It's pretty crazy that Laura is the series' first character from Latin America, for example.
Immortal Technique
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Making statements like this as if they are fact is funny.
They may name her Kolin for the sake of continuity if she's coming.
I love how people try to pass this off as factual. Like it's impossible to enjoy the game in it's current state lol smh
Yet I'm not getting any money and still play it almost every day dammit.
Holy shit, that might be the dumbest article I've ever seen.
"Now, why is Capcom doing this all of a sudden? Considering each of these pictures has the Street Fighter V logo on them, it’s safe to say that Max and Scott will appear in the game."
The CFN portal has hundreds of character profiles...
Blanka, Hawk, Juli, Sean, and Oro don't count?
SneakersSO
Member
There are several season passes across multiple genres that sell itself without detailing what is actually in them. This happens all the time.
Even in the prime of each game, didn't SFIV > MvC3 when it came to entrants at most tournaments, viewers, etc? If we are talking strictly about the FGC, I'm pretty sure SF has more clout.
Brazil is a bit over-represented to be fair
CrispyBoar
Banned
We'll see. Give it another year or two from now.
Plus just because that they said that they'll support it until 2020 doesn't mean that they'll fulfill it. Plans can always change.
The Lone Dragon
Member
I'd estimate that 95% of the FIVE THOUSAND PEOPLE that entered EVO had no hopes of even sniffing that money.
People enter SF tourneys to play SF.
The money is definitely an incentive to the pros, but most entrants in these tourneys are not pros.
Fighting games are not interchangeable. Marvel and SF are completely different, attracting different tastes.
SneakersSO
Member
Why would plans change? They're on an upswing right now. Dear lord, this SFV salt is delicious in some ways. They really have no intention of going anywhere for awhile. They've monetized the FGC, which has been their goal.
CrispyBoar
Banned
They've confirmed from the get-go that there would be a second season. But that doesn't mean that we'll see a season 3 or above. Unlike today, back in 2008, Capcom was financially stable to put out more characters & more iterations, etc. on their own with SF IV. Towards Ultra SF IV, they were in trouble financially, & even had to recycle 4 characters & some stages from Street Fighter x Tekken as well as making a character from using a Cammy clone (Decapre) in order to pass them off as "new shit."
They need the financial support for it to keep going (& I mean a good sum, especially in terms of making more characters, etc.), & they're certainly aren't going to get it from tournaments, especially when Capcom themselves have to also use some of their money (or money from Sony) just for tournaments like EVO in general.
SneakersSO
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Capcom's financial situation didn't turn dire during SFxT/USF4 - it turned bad after those games came out, and it was mainly due to RE6 underperforming and a large portion of their mobile efforts & investments really shitting the bed. And I can already tell you haven't kept up, since you assume that Capcom's financial are still really bad, but they've actually recovered quite well in the last 18 months, and that is with SFV 'underperforming'. They attribute their turnaround specifically to better efforts on their digital offerings, remasters, & ofc monster hunter. You're conflating what happened with the additions to Ultra as some desperate cash grab, versus them just taking content they had developed for SFxT and using that to reissue another rerelease in Ultra. Ofc they were gonna do that. On some level, I bet it was always a part of their plan.
There really is no other clearer way of them saying "we're going to support the game until 2020" for you to know that they have made a commitment to the game & how its grown the CPT in the last year. And in all honesty, the CPT has had more growth in almost every way in just 1 year of SFV. Capcom doesn't throw EVO btw, so they don't pay for that. This year, Capcom added 50k to the prize pool from their CPT fund, and they probably made way more than that on the CPT bundle that weekend alone.
In many ways, Capcom has a way better foundation to garner financial support now than they ever had with SF4. They have the backing of ESPN now, something Ultra never had the privilege of being aired on. They have a huge backing from Sony, Red Bull, and a few other sponsors. They've also monetized SFV in a way that no prior entry in the series has been and you can bet your ass that its one of the reasons why they made a committal statement for SFV extending it to 2020 AFTER the game had been on the market for > 6 months, and they saw exactly how much money it can bring in.
Capcom is doing fine financially now. They've done so for the last 5-6 quarters. SFV, while it under performed, is probably doing better for them digitally than any of us give credit. And the direction they want to take the game in is pretty positive.
Nemesis121
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Unless he's the guest character and Akira changed their minds, Capcom's doesn't own the rights to Garuda, or any of the characters created by developer Akira for SF EX series..
I already know that Capcom doesn't own the EX characters
Scrub Mcgrubb
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I endorse this speculation
someone's out of the loop....
http://shoryuken.com/2016/09/22/str...e-fighters-through-their-cfn-portal-profiles/
I thought about that for a while and I kept repeating to myself "no, it's modern Capcom and it would be too good to be true if we had EX characters back".
From what I remember about Blanka's story, he simply crash landed in Brazil and became what he is now. I don't know if they've ever said where he's actually from. I forgot about Sean and Oro, though. I don't think Hawk and Juli qualify since they're portrayed with stereotypical native american accessories.
Could also be Linn who has appeared in background cameos. Her costume and moveset was also used in a NxC move by Sylphie of LW fame.
Simone is/was basically Linn to skirt around a potential rights issue with Fox.
Though Niitsuma and the other Capcom guy never went into full detail as to why they couldn't use her other than it would be difficult.
They both praised the character and were both delighted that I knew of and brought her up.
Bruce Springsteen
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What do you mean?