FFXV's future updates adjust chapters, add cutscenes, add playable characters, more

Bansai said:
Updates will add what? Cutscenes, story, playable characters?

wtf...
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The game will still basically be the same as it is now but expanded. Especially story cutscenes will be added to explain things not explained now, but happening offscreen.
 
This doesn't seem like a big deal in the slightest. They are probably adding meaty content patches up to the release of the PC version, which has been done before by other games.
 
Relaxed Muscle said:
Writer:"Damn, need more time to finish the book"

Publisher:"Who cares, give me what you have and I'll sell it"

Book store employer:"Here's the new book you were waiting for!"

Customer:"Nice! I was waiting for this, 10 years"

*reads book*

Customer:"You know, is not a bad book, but feels likr is missing pages and chunks of it"

Writer:"You are right, here are the missing pages"

Customer:"But...I already read the book, it would have been nice, having the full book when I bought it and experienced it.."

*Writer fan crawls in the ground and approaches furiosly*

Writer fan:"Why are you complaining!! He's giving you the missing pages for free. Why can you feel the passion and the love he put in his work! ArghaRRGhhh!"

Customer:"But past books didn't have missing pages, and certainly most other books didn't"

Writer fan:"But you are getting them, you're so entitled!! Who cares if you already read the book. FEEL THE PASSION OF HIS WORK!! ArrrhhgaRRRGhhhh"
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This analogy doesn't work without fans of the replaced writer though
 
lmao. Good thing I'm taking my sweet time on side-quest. I'll probably reach chapter 13 in 30 hours or so. I hope they patched it by that time.
 
What?

This is kinda weird. Fixing up bugs, improving performance, making some gameplay changes,etc that's all cool.
Not sure how I feel about major things like added cutscesnes and playable characters.

The witcher 3 for example got multiple good updates, including some much needed performance and inventory updates, and that felt like the studio just polishing up the game based on player feedback. This... Feels more like Square admiting they released an unfinished game
 
Perfo said:
I think there's more to it honestly. Here we are witnessing the transformation already happening all over of games as services. They re trying to keep players engaged for long on these games hoping they buy more digital stuff etc. And keeping fans happy for longer. Infact if you read it all they re planning to add new hunts and even timed events from time to time. I can't say is bad but I want to experience it first before getting mad or enthusiast. Witcher 3 did also similar stuff but they re taking a bit further forward here with the time events and such. Almost like an mmorpg or moba of sort.
This was inevitable btw.
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Holy shit, I didn't see that!

New hunts for free would be so good.

Best part of the update, fuck Ravus.
 
Angel_DvA said:
An incomplete Masterpiece and an incomplete mess are two different things, FF15 is not even close the genius MGSV has.

Edit: and Konami isn't even trying to fix it.
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Both games show that big prominent Japanese studios still have a lot of catching up to do in terms of open world design. Especially when it comes to story pacing, coherency, budget management, and why creating a proprietary internal engine without the experience of a team who's used to working with games of this scale is an incredibly bad idea.
 
This is fucking stupid. I would be surprised if they even achieve their "midterm" goals by the end of 2017, and I'm sure as hell not waiting or replaying the game again.
 
Angel_DvA said:
An incomplete Masterpiece and an incomplete mess are two different things, FF15 is not even close the genius MGSV has.

Edit: and Konami isn't even trying to fix it.
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And that is a good thing... how?

People've been begging for Chapter 3 to be added post-release as long as the game's been out on shelves but nothing's ever come out of it. Feel free to scoff at the idea for how ridiculous it sounds, but otherwise humor me for a second there:

If for some cosmic reason Konami and Kojima would make amends, have him finish Chapter 3 and expand Chapter 2's story from being more than a disjointed mess of cut-scenes alongside of uninteresting mission repeats, or even smaller, just have him finish up Mission 51, would you be calling it a joke too?

Because I sure as hell wouldn't.
 
Wow, this game is still far from being finished despite the long development and the delays! The team just said "screw it", because they just had to get it out this holiday.

It's even more remarkable that the game is not really a disaster, either. There has been a lot of positive fan reception, and the sales seem to be strong.

A lot of GAF will wait for the full FFXV experience, but the casual customer may not be put off (or informed) of the unfinished story. Therefore, I can't imagine that sales will drop off a cliff.
 
Sounds good to me. Just finished the game and ready to start a new game to do everything I skipped. Wanting the other characters the most especially one that doesn't have a dong.
 
BriGuy said:
This is fucking stupid. I would be surprised if they even achieve their "midterm" goals by the end of 2017, and I'm sure as hell not waiting or replaying the game again.
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They re just expanding the game for a future pc and console re release like many other devs like red cd project did for years with all their games. Calm down
 
So adding longevity to the game is now bad? You guys shock me every single day. Is this any different than adding DLC that expands on story elements? We're getting more gameplay updates and people are shitting ok that?

I love how people try to confirm their bias. Calling this a mess of a game when the majority of people playing this don't see it as such at all. I welcome these free updates along with the already announced planned DLC.
 
Boke1879 said:
So adding longevity to the game is now bad? You guys shock me every single day. Is this any different than adding DLC that expands on story elements? We're getting more gameplay updates and people are shitting ok that?

I love how people try to confirm their bias. Calling this a mess of a game when the majority of people playing this don't see it as such at all. I welcome these free updates along with the already announced planned DLC.
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No, it's not. Releasing unfinished games and patching them up after release is bad. It's not as bad as releasing unfinished games and leaving them as is but it's still bad.
 
Perfo said:
They re just expanding the game for a future pc and console re release like many other devs like red cd project did for years with all their games. Calm down
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No, the first two major updates are aimed at completing an obviously unfinished game. Comparing what SE is doing to what CD Project Red did for Witcher 3 is insulting.
 
Boke1879 said:
So adding longevity to the game is now bad? You guys shock me every single day. Is this any different than adding DLC that expands on story elements? We're getting more gameplay updates and people are shitting ok that?

I love how people try to confirm their bias. Calling this a mess of a game when the majority of people playing this don't see it as such at all. I welcome these free updates along with the already announced planned DLC.
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This reads like "I haven't even played the game so I don't know what I'm talking about."

Even the good reviews say the story is a mess.
 
Glass Rebel said:
No, it's not. Releasing unfinished games and patching them up after release is bad. It's not as bad as releasing unfinished games and leaving them as is but it's still bad.
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When the game they released is already fantastic, improving it is great.

If release FFXV was bad, you might have a point.
 
I only hope they take their time while adding cutscenes. If you want to explain things be sure to do it in a fulfilling way. I wouldn't like they would release a patch to fix the cutscenes added with the patch to fix missing cutscenes.

That would be really stupid.
 
Perfo said:
They re just expanding the game for a future pc and console re release like many other devs like red cd project did for years with all their games. Calm down
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You know theres a difference between enhancing an experience and completing one right?

Vincent Grayson said:
When the game they released is already fantastic, improving it is great.

If release FFXV was bad, you might have a point.
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Theres plenty of people who would say MGSv is a great game. Doesn't change the fact that it has huge problems.
 
Them releasing patches to fix their clearly, rushed, incomplete game is good, but it's also not something I'm going to give them props for, since it never should have released this way in the first place.
 
Heck, at least they are putting in the effort. I will play the game now and then will replay on PC or maybe NG+ with improvements first on the Pro then fully fixed on PC.

ThInk about it this way, lots of Devs would not have bothered to go that far no matter the issues or sales. Bad that the game needs these fixes but good on SE to actually do this for free.
 
I intend to complete FFXV at least a couple more times so this is great news. But also shows that they needed more time and rushed the game due to release date/development cycle pressure.
 
blankempathy said:
You know theres a difference between enhancing an experience and completing one right?
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They are not completing the game. The game is complete. They are expanding story cutscenes. It's not like the story is unfinished. The story is finished but lacking visual explanation of events happening off screen.
 
BriGuy said:
No, the first two major updates are aimed at completing an obviously unfinished game. Comparing what SE is doing to what CD Project Red did for Witcher 3 is insulting.
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For Witcher 3? Sure. But what about the Enhanced Edition of Witcher 2? It added new cutscenes, a new CG intro, the Dandelion narrations, as well as tweaks for Act 3 (of 3), because it didn't feel as finished as the rest of the game.

Sounds familiar?

Let me quote one of the descriptions:

Created using a new set of motion-captured animations, these additions include 3 engine-rendered cut scenes illustrating the events that transpire in Loc Muinne when Geralt is engaged elsewhere.
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New scenes showing off-screen events that the protagonist wasn't a part of, and the story didn't directly show them at first for this reason.
 
I will be surprised if they don't start releasing classic FF characters as DLC party members like Cloud and Lightning. Shit, they could tie into KH hype and offer a FFXV'ed Sora and Riku as DLC.
 
Boke1879 said:
So adding longevity to the game is now bad? You guys shock me every single day. Is this any different than adding DLC that expands on story elements? We're getting more gameplay updates and people are shitting ok that?

I love how people try to confirm their bias. Calling this a mess of a game when the majority of people playing this don't see it as such at all. I welcome these free updates along with the already announced planned DLC.
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Oh it's very different when you expand on something you neglected and rushed.

I don't know about majority, but I finished it, called story a rushed mess, along with some game mechanics, and currently I am feeling pretty pissed, I didn't get the 'whole' experience story-wise just because I wanted to support the franchise. And I probably won't, as I'm selling this today and I'm not lookin' back.

Patches should fix bugs, mechanics, maybe add some, but never story segments and cutscenes to the base game that are needed to fully grasp the main plot.

Gbraga said:
For Witcher 3? Sure. But what about the Enhanced Edition of Witcher 2? It added new cutscenes, a new CG intro, the Dandelion narrations, as well as tweaks for Act 3 (of 3), because it didn't feel as finished as the rest of the game.

Sounds familiar?
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They added CG intro and tutorial that was just covered in a little plot, similar with chapter 3, they added a big side-quest to prolong the whole chapter, they never meddled with the main story, which was COMPLETE from the get go.
 
Player: "Wow, I sure wish I had thing"

Devs: "No worries, we're working on something similar actually!"

Player: "What the FUCK, man? Why didn't I have this to begin with? I hate you and everything you stand for"
 
SolVanderlyn said:
Player: "Wow, I sure wish I had thing"

Devs: "No worries, we're working on something similar actually!"

Player: "What the FUCK, man? Why didn't I have this to begin with? I hate you and everything you stand for"
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I know right fuck things being complete from the get go.
 
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