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[collige]

I like all the gameplay changes so far with the obvious exception of Treant's stupid passive.

I absolutely despise the new UI though. It's tiny as shit, selecting other units opens an even tinier overlay on the left of the screen, and the mini map colors are wierdly washed out. I also couldn't level up with the keyboard anymore, but I'm really hoping that's a bug.

 

[SaniOYOYOY]

Metal Spirit

FROZENTOAD PLEASE

 

[Wok]

Everyone is the old bloodseeker now.

RIP Rikimaru.

 

[Mohasus]

I really want to try a DPS lich. :<

I need to play around with the agi bonus to Phantom rush but God damn that illusion bounty.

5 gold per illu won't change anything.

 

[XAL]

Is +6 treants really that bad? That's double the treants. Do you need more trees for then?

He's complaining because in late game it just gives enemy more money if they have 1 wave clear hero.

 

[Randdalf]

I like all the gameplay changes so far with the obvious exception of Treant's stupid passive.

I absolutely despise the new UI though. It's tiny as shit, selecting other units opens an even tinier overlay on the left of the screen, and the mini map colors are wierdly washed out. I also couldn't level up with the keyboard anymore, but I'm really hoping that's a bug.

I agree that it's too small. I would like an option to make it 1.5x bigger and maybe swap the the health and ability icons back around to the way they were before. There's a legacy option for turning off the overlay for other selected units.

 

[kionedrik]

So what UAM's do we have left? Deso, Lifesteal and AM's Mana break right?

 

[t0rment]

I really want to try a DPS lich. :<



5 gold per illu won't change anything.

it's 20 gold at lvl 15. sk is gonna be even more happy with a pl in the match.

 

[Mohasus]

I absolutely despise the new UI though. It's tiny as shit, selecting other units opens an even tinier overlay on the left of the screen, and the mini map colors are wierdly washed out. I also couldn't level up with the keyboard anymore, but I'm really hoping that's a bug.

Jesus, why don't you just activate the option to make it like before then?

it's 20 gold at lvl 15. sk is gonna be even more happy with a pl in the match.

Juxtapose illusions give a constant 5 gold/xp bounty.
edit: let me clarify this, juxtapose is PL's passive.

 

[Fliesen]

so, how do i install the test client?

it doesn't show as DLC for the main dota client.

 

[Mohasus]

so, how do i install the test client?

it doesn't show as DLC for the main dota client.

steam://install/205790

 

[Facism]

so, how do i install the test client?

it doesn't show as DLC for the main dota client.

it's a seperate game in your library

 

[shira]

So what UAM's do we have left? Deso, Lifesteal and AM's Mana break right?

Mostly hero
Sk, od, viper etc

 

[collige]

Jesus, why don't you just activate the option to make it like before then?

I somehow managed to miss that that was an option.

 

[Fliesen]

it's a seperate game in your library

steam://install/205790

hah, thanks ...
took me a few extra moments to realize it was among my "hidden" games

 

[kionedrik]

Mostly hero
Sk, od, viper etc

Viper's Q is no longer an orb since 6.87 I think. Forgot SK and OD. Maybe Silencer's glaives as well. I wonder how long till these lose their UAM status...

 

[Mohasus]

Performance in the test client is disappointing. I'm not sure if it is due to the changes or the client itself, but I went from 100-120 fps to 60-90 (same API).

 

[bounchfx]

I like all the gameplay changes so far with the obvious exception of Treant's stupid passive.

I absolutely despise the new UI though. It's tiny as shit, selecting other units opens an even tinier overlay on the left of the screen, and the mini map colors are wierdly washed out. I also couldn't level up with the keyboard anymore, but I'm really hoping that's a bug.

i could level up with the keyboard just fine

i want to see how the new hud works with the custom huds though..
I don't really like it. I like the new functionality but I dont like how everything is broken apart with gaps in between like League. I honestly prefer it as a solid block as it was

 

[bbd23]

Performance in the test client is disappointing. I'm not sure if it is due to the changes or the client itself, but I went from 100-120 fps to 60-90 (same API).

test client has always been like this for me

also on new hud where do i check to see my last hits

 

[Twookie]

test client has always been like this for me

also on new hud where do i check to see my last hits

Hold alt, and look at the character portrait

i also have perf issues on test client brw

 

[Anno]

The lvl 25 Puck orb is hilarious

 

[Hylian7]

Edit: I see I've been beaten above.

So what are left as UAMs?

Items:
Morbid Mask
MoM
Satanic
Desolator
Blight Stone

Abilities:
Mana Break
Frost Arrows
Arcane Orb
Caustic Finale (I don't understand why this is still one)

I'm starting to feel like they might eventually scrap the whole system at this rate.

 

[shadow2810]

so Agh on AM is basically linken + lotus orb with 12s cd.

 

[Mohasus]

so Agh on AM is basically linken + lotus orb with 12s cd.

FUCK YOU TINKEEER

 

[M.D]

So there's nothing preventing carries from having a Dagon or Necro in their backpack and using it when they see fit? Those 90 minutes games that always dragged on with the Anti-Mage carrying 10k gold with nothing to spend it on just got way more interesting!

 

[The M.O.B]

So there's nothing preventing carries from having a Dagon or Necro in their backpack and using it when they see fit? Those 90 minutes games that always dragged on with the Anti-Mage carrying 10k gold with nothing to spend it on just got way more interesting!

Yup but those games are going to become less common and the cooldowns limit it a lot

They took out 0 minute rune spawn fight >_<

Pro teams are not going to risk going for the enemies bounty runes

 

[Drkirby]

So there's nothing preventing carries from having a Dagon or Necro in their backpack and using it when they see fit? Those 90 minutes games that always dragged on with the Anti-Mage carrying 10k gold with nothing to spend it on just got way more interesting!

Yeah, but the items are disabled for 6 seconds after swapping, making it no to great with the likes of Dagon. Plus 2x cooldown lenth in backpack.

But swapping your BKB for Dagon after popping BKB could be cool.

 

[shira]

so Agh on AM is basically linken + lotus orb with 12s cd.

Get a lotus orb and have a support get one. GG ZZz

 

[Nzyme32]

Quite amusing to watch peoples reactions as they go through the changelog. Slacks is bouncing between jubilation and dispair

 

[Quonny]

talents?

this is just valves revenge for overwatch

 

[Wok]

talents?

this is just valves revenge for overwatch

Heroes of the Storm did it earlier than that. Shrines and talents, both.

 

[Quonny]

Heroes of the Storm did it earlier than that. Shrines and talents, both.

thats the joke

Dota 2 stolen from Blizzard
Blizzard steals class/hero shooter from Valve
Valve steals talents from Blizzard

 

[pompidu]

Illusion give give gold and xp? Jesus. Delete Phantom lancer so some poor soul who doesn't know better picks him. I understand 1 gold but 5 gold plus xp is absurd.

 

[OnionPowder]

Monkey King is the most disappointing shit from this patch. No items can solo anybody he feels like.

 

[Sibylus]

The amounts of crow and tears in this thread... euphoria.

 

[Wok]

Illusion give give gold and xp? Jesus. Delete Phantom lancer so some poor soul who doesn't know better picks him. I understand 1 gold but 5 gold plus xp is absurd.

Nevermind. You are right.

 

[pompidu]

Only 5 gold for PL.

He spawns like 1000 illusions throughout the game. Still dumb

 

[Omega Kirby]

Dude Vipers new model is sick

And Enigma is Ripped now lmao

 

[shira]

MonkeyKing Slahser's Way lul
https://youtu.be/tMGlylXwY_8

 

[Fuchsdh]

Lose the ability to invis allies tho.

Honestly for me this doesn't matter. Most randoms never cooperated for invis ganks. My Tree win rate will be interesting—makes him stronger but weakens the potential for his Agh wards to go unspotted.

 

[Mohasus]

He spawns like 1000 illusions throughout the game. Still dumb

Most of them just expire, it isn't a problem.

 

[Randdalf]

Wow Techies is absolute garbage now, there's literally no point in skilling Proximity Mines.

 

[shira]

Lose the ability to invis allies tho.

I think he's a roam ganker or carry now.

Free basher mixed with early game damage.

That's a lot to deal with level 2.

Pop a tango to create a tree. Invis bash + oov, leech seed
RIP

 

[pompidu]

Most of them just expire, it isn't a problem.

One aoe blast is like 50 free gold. It's dumb. Remove him from the game so I dont have to deal with another way for feeders to keep giving gold away.

 

[Maximo]

Dude Vipers new model is sick

And Enigma is Ripped now lmao

Dude fucking hit the gym.

 

[EscapeArtist]

Glad everyone in here is being far more level headed than Reddit/Twitter folks. I'm pretty excited for all the new stuff in the game, I haven't played in a while but I'm for sure going to jump back in this week.

 

[Sibylus]

Rod of Atos has been the most cost-efficient HP and mana item in the game since its introduction... now with a root? I expect to see/build it a lot.

 

[bbd23]

havent seen arteezy cry about the patch yet

what gives

 

[shira]

havent seen arteezy cry about the patch yet

what gives

Too busy negotiating that OG transfer

 

[BlastProcessing]

And I was worried that Dota would oversimplify itself...