Sony Playstation: First Party Studios & their Current Projects
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Donniewahlberg
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I don't think it's too strange, but maybe that's just me. I think if you look at the fact they shipped two games in 2014, albeit one a smaller project, and the wider view of what Sony has announced from first party right now, it's just a matter of the game not needing to be announced right now. I mean, ideally these companies must want to get as close to launch as possible with these games before they announce but also have to balance keeping people invested in the platform, like having a TLOU2 or GoW looming. Lastly, if it's a new IP they probably workshopped and threw out some stuff over 2015. If we go beyond next E3 and nada, I think I'd agree, but E3 2016 & PSX were stacked, so imo it makes sense to keep anything back they can for pacing reasons (in terms of public announcement).
The more I think about Freedom Wars PS4, the more I wish I hadn't thought of it at all. I would really love it </3
Don't forget, they also had layoffs mid way through 2014.
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=878510
Nightengale
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Not only that, introducing big AAA new IPs these days need to be impactful.
Some devs can get away with just doing intriguing concept trailers ( Death Stranding ), but Sucker Punch don't have that legacy.
Something like God of War demo or Horizon Zero Dawn reveal trailer are how new IPs should be revealed these days, and I suspect whatever SP's next project is will get the same treatment.
Some devs can get away with just doing intriguing concept trailers ( Death Stranding ), but Sucker Punch don't have that legacy.
Something like God of War demo or Horizon Zero Dawn reveal trailer are how new IPs should be revealed these days, and I suspect whatever SP's next project is will get the same treatment.
SolidSnakex
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Looks like Guerrilla, or at least Herman was at SIEA today
Now to figure out where Yoshida got that Trico plushy from.
Now to figure out where Yoshida got that Trico plushy from.
Triggerhappytel
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It's only been 2 years 4 months since they release First Light. That's not a 'long ass time' in videogame development; especially if they're creating a new IP, which is typically 4-5 years in development.
Yeah, I totally agree. Whatever they are going for I would a similar gameplay reveal; preferably with its release date following under 12 months later.
McMoneyman
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Bloodborne 2 and Sucker Punch's new IP at E3 and Sony got one hell of a exclusive line-up coming.
Triggerhappytel
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That's what I expect will be the new stuff next year. God of War, Days Gone and Spider-Man will also all be there in full force too, and I don;'t expect we'll see TLoU2 until at least PSX again next year. Although I'm excited for Death Stranding, I'm really not interested in seeing more until we have in-game footage and a release date, although I'm sure we're in for a new teaser trailer at every single major trade show for the next 2+ years.
fatherKratos
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Release dates have become useless these days...no one sticks to them
Cory recently tweeted that mocap for GOW is almost finished. Can we expect GOW to release in 2017 then?Release dates have become useless these days...no one sticks to them
I think Knack 2, Gravity Rush 2, GT Sport, Nioh and Horizon is all we're getting next year. Anything else is 2018+
fatherKratos
Neo Member
+ Crash and Ni No Kuni.
Donniewahlberg
Banned
"All". Sounds pretty great to be honest, even if that was the line-up. We know for a fact we're getting The Lost Legacy, Parappa & Wipeout too though. Plus Locorco & Patapon collections will likely make it out.
I'm inclined to guess that Days Gone or Spider-man will arrive for 2017 though. EDIT: And Dreams, if it can pull itself together. I think with Horzion, GT Sport & The Lost Legacy being big tentpoles with the other stuff in between paced out throughout the year directed at different niches and audiences etc, they don't necessarily need Days Gone, Spider-man or Dreams to release in 2017, depends how momentum holds. Crash might end up as a big marketing tentpole too, not sure on that. Bear in mind there will be Destiny 2, a new Assassin's Creed and so on, they don't need to go gaga with the release schedule.
Man I want naughty dog to make lost legacy as long as possible to tell the right story. It's probably 4 hours but a 6 hour adventure would be totes.
Nightengale
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Even if the undated games could hit 2017, I would imagine every single one of the undated games are "Fall 2017" earliest and with that comes its own set of problems.
Something like Spider-Man and God of War could easily slot itself into a quieter fall week (Oct, etc) and come out perfectly fine. Those games will be big deals that won't get swallowed up by other monstrosities in the same season, unless of course, those games choose to be dumb and release in the same week as RDR2.
Whereas something like Days Gone? I would imagine that even if that is ready by fall 2016, Sony would rather put it out in a quieter season to increase its chances of success.
Something like Spider-Man and God of War could easily slot itself into a quieter fall week (Oct, etc) and come out perfectly fine. Those games will be big deals that won't get swallowed up by other monstrosities in the same season, unless of course, those games choose to be dumb and release in the same week as RDR2.
Whereas something like Days Gone? I would imagine that even if that is ready by fall 2016, Sony would rather put it out in a quieter season to increase its chances of success.
Donniewahlberg
Banned
It's ended up long enough that it's become more of a story expansion, rather than just dlc. It'll be stand alone and receive a physical release, so I think 4 to 6 is a good guess. Right now I think the closest to official comment was longer than left behind, shorter than Uncharted 4.
They've only said it's bigger than TLoU: Left Behind, which was about 2 hours long, so I'm expecting at least double that. Though this is going to be the last Uncharted game ND do, so wouldn't be shocked if they go all out and make it longer than that.
Nightengale
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ND are never the most efficient devs when it comes to planning ahead for DLC.
Most devs finalise DLC plans ahead of finishing the main game so no time is wasted, but alas ND still can afford to spend time thinking what they want to do.
Most devs finalise DLC plans ahead of finishing the main game so no time is wasted, but alas ND still can afford to spend time thinking what they want to do.
Donniewahlberg
Banned
I think for the stuff that's 2017 confirmed, I'm in forrrr:
Knack 2, Gravity Rush 2, Horizon, Crash, Ni No Kuni, The Lost Legacy, & The Wipeout/Patapon/Locoroco collections.
I never had Parappa back in the day so I lack nostalgia there (VIb Ribbon on the other hand!), and I just tend to enjoy Forza more than GT. Nioh, really enjoyed the alpha, but it's coming out super close to Horizon and other stuff, so that's more of a if I have the money thing. Not quite psyched enough to push other stuff out the way for it. That's honestly a good enough selection for me from Sony next year. Would I take another big release at the end of 2017 that's more to my taste than GT Sport? Sure, but I'm a big fan of the other consoles too so between keeping up with those, third party games etc. that feels like a really strong line-up from Sony this year with something for everyone, and still a ton to unload beyond 2017.
Knack 2, Gravity Rush 2, Horizon, Crash, Ni No Kuni, The Lost Legacy, & The Wipeout/Patapon/Locoroco collections.
I never had Parappa back in the day so I lack nostalgia there (VIb Ribbon on the other hand!), and I just tend to enjoy Forza more than GT. Nioh, really enjoyed the alpha, but it's coming out super close to Horizon and other stuff, so that's more of a if I have the money thing. Not quite psyched enough to push other stuff out the way for it. That's honestly a good enough selection for me from Sony next year. Would I take another big release at the end of 2017 that's more to my taste than GT Sport? Sure, but I'm a big fan of the other consoles too so between keeping up with those, third party games etc. that feels like a really strong line-up from Sony this year with something for everyone, and still a ton to unload beyond 2017.
Triggerhappytel
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Release dates have become useless these days...no one sticks to them
It's hard to tell, but I'm still betting on a 2018 release (probably March). In the topic where this was first posted someone pointed out that the mocap for The Last of Us was completed about 6 months (I think) before release, while on Uncharted 4 it was completed almost 12 months before release. So I'm not sure it's an especially useful barometer and we should know at E3 next year anyway.
I would guess it'll be in the 4-5 hour range. Which would be plenty substantial for me.
It's standalone akin to Infamous: First Light. Even getting its own retail release as well.
Yep; Spider-Man and God of War are big enough brands to survive, but Days Gone needs to either launch in a quiet month mid next year (which I don't see happening) or the March-July period in 2018. Coming out probably after August next year would be a death sentence for it, and anyone who has any interest in an open world game will probably have all their attention on RDR2.
That being said, I think Sony is wise to avoid the September-November period in general, and I'm happy if they focus on releasing at other times of the year. As a consumer with limited money I think there is literally no benefit to every publisher scrambling to get their stuff released prior to Black Friday, and I find this mindset has been perpetuated by some publishers and executives touting the kind of "rest of the year is pre-season" bullshit.
I didn't mean "all" in a bad way, just the stuff I'm personally most hyped for probably won't make it next year (Spider-Man, God of War)
anothertech
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Where the hell is Deep Down?
The did a GOTY edition that included it for retail.
http://www.tesco.com/direct/bloodbo...gclid=CMPYjY2D9tACFcq97QoducUJpA&gclsrc=aw.ds
Triggerhappytel
Member
There was a GotY edition which included the DLC, but it was never standalone.
It's dead.
fatherKratos
Neo Member
Yup,thats the best guess....all the earlier GOW games were also released in March.
Donniewahlberg
Banned
Haha fair enough man, and I can appreciate that. Sony put out a pretty eclectic mix of stuff and obviously that can lead to gaps where you're left waiting for your own personal good stuff. I can't wait for that stuff either and I probably would pick it over the coming years line up but Imo the 2017 line up is still pretty packed. Lots of great Japanese stuff specifically.
... Not this kind of post again. Come on, guys, if you believe that GOW will release in March 2018, please at least state some reasons besides "series tradition". Is Ascension not a true GOW game then? It lacks the interactive sex scene and half of Kratos's mugshot in the title screen. How about Ghost of Sparta? It was released in September 2010.
I think it's a reasonable guess that's definitely possible, especially as Sony have shown they don't care about absolutely hitting that release window any more and will happily delay a game to early the following year if needed. Personally I think they'll be aiming for late 2017, with March 2018 being their back up date if they need more time, both seem just as likely as each other.
That's fair enough, but SSM will definitely not try to hit March 2018 just for giggles and "series tradition". They will try to push the game out as soon as possible and only if all else fails, they will target March 2018.
Donniewahlberg
Banned
I think it's more than reasonable as a starting guess. The game currently doesn't have an official time window, 2017 was never mentioned, so it's going to be February/March 2018 or later right? Even if it's ready before then, Sony seem happy to duck the holiday crazy period (and I don't blame them). I mentioned Destiny 2 and AssCreed earlier, and I can't believe I forgot Red Dead. Add in Battlefront and so on, I think it's a valid idea. I don't think it's an "if all else fails" thing that the game will be beyond 2017. Would love to be wrong on that of course.
I don't either, i think it just being in that sweetspot of being far enough away from everyone having no money due to the holidays and getting bored of what they bought, will play a much bigger role in them aiming for that if they miss late 2017, more than series tradition, which would just be a nice little extra getting it out around it's birthday.
Good point, I forget how stacked late 2017 will probably be, which will definitely play a role on if they feel it'll need more time or not, especially as Sony will probably be pushing all 4 of them too.
Edit: Should add I think October will be the month they aim for, with Destiny in September and Battlefront and RDR2 both going for November, AC will probably be October too, and I think God of War could compete with that. Be a good counter for the Scorpio too imo, as I bet it'll look incredible on the Pro.
Apologies if I worded my post poorly, but I don't mean that SSM are targeting late 2017 for sure right now. What I meant was hypothetically, if GOW is good to be shipped in October 2017, SSM will definitely do so. They won't wait until March 2018 just because of series tradition. I may be misinterpreting the post I initially quoted, but I feel like a lot of people are implying that the series has a history of March releases, so SSM should keep it that way regardless of other more sensible reasons.
LastMinuteHero
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If we wanna talk about breaking tradition and whatnot, just look at the game from a gameplay perspective; so it's not crazy to think gow has a shot at releasing in summer/fall 2017. Along with the other reasons javin has elaborated on
yeah the lineup next year looks amazing. I just need that Spider-Man lol
Theslammer
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Should add Gravity Rush Remastered for Sony Japan and Nex Machina for Housemarque.
EDIT: Scratch Nex Machina. I'm so used to Housemarque releasing with Sony publishing that I just ASSumed that! xD~~
EDIT: Scratch Nex Machina. I'm so used to Housemarque releasing with Sony publishing that I just ASSumed that! xD~~
Donniewahlberg
Banned
You know, I didn't even mean that they would be co-marketing those games but you're actually totally right, they definitely have a relationship with Destiny, RDR & Battlefront. Did AC shift back towards playstation with Syndicate?
Ah right okay, I feel you, I was actually starting to wonder there if I had missed a 2017 time window there. I mean how knows what the target is internally right, and I would love for it to be 2017. I just think Sony have been incredibly savvy this gen with release dates and despite the no games memes and *missing* the winter period, they've kept momentum and I'm starting to think they're skipping the winter on purpose. They've associated so many big third party franchises with the playstation for now, I'm not sure they need a christmas game for the next few years if Scorpio doesn't rock the boat. Uncharted was perfectly placed, as is Horizon.
Who can I tweet/email if I want more Freedom Wars ha, I 'm not even sure where to direct that one.
Looks like Guerrilla, or at least Herman was at SIEA today
Now to figure out where Yoshida got that Trico plushy from.
http://www.owlsteaparty.com/the-last-guardian-trico-plush/
Triggerhappytel
Member
What if they are trying to hit it because it's their target release date? Cory returned to SSM in August 2013, so assuming things were up and running on God of War fairly quickly March 18 will give them 4 to 4.5 years development time, which seems reasonable considering it's basically a total series reboot.
Plus, Sony have showed they have no issue launching major games early in the year (God of War III, Bloodborne, The Order, Uncharted 4, Horizon), and they increasingly seem happy to avoid the pre-Christmas period as that's typically when most big publishers launch their big games. Plus, as pointed out, late 2017 is going to be a bloodbath with massive sequels that are probably going to shift 10+ million copies, like Destiny 2, Battlefront 2, Red Dead Redemption 2, possibly the new Assassin's Creed, then you've got the Scorpio launch and all the software which will accompany it (Halo 3 Anni, Scalebound, Crackdown etc), and so on.
Nex Machina is not a Sony game
Please read my later elaboration, I feel like I worded the post you quoted poorly, my bad. I meant if development is going right on schedule and they can hit a Fall 2017 release window, they will go for it. If the internal release target is March 2018, then it's because they need more time for development and the main reason is not to keep up with series tradition, which is the implication I got from several posters.
Edit: I think Destiny 2 will target September, just like the original, could be later as well. We have no clue as the game hasn't even been officially revealed and development could be ahead or behind schedule. I don't really want to add more until we know the release dates of the other games since it would be hypocritical of me to assume those would target the usual release dates of their predecessors as well. In any case, if early October or late September is clear, I could see GOW releasing then. Also, Uncharted 4, Horizon and I believe The Order were not delayed to avoid the holiday season. The devs needed extra time for development.
Theslammer
Member
As far as what's coming out next year (excluding Crash since it's published by Activision):
Gran Turismo Sport (assuming it doesn't encounter more delays like GT games like to do)
Gravity Rush 2
Horizon: Zero Dawn
Hot Shots Sequel(?)
Knack 2
MLB The Show 17
Nioh
Uncharted: The Lost Legacy
Wipeout Omega Collection
With the smaller games, I think:
Drawn To Death
Locoroco Remastered
Parappa Remastered
Patapon Remastered
What Remains of Edith Finch
Wild
But I have to think that out of Dreams, Detroit: Become Human, Days Gone, Spider-Man and God of War, a few of them are coming next year. Two of them have been known about for a while, and it was cool to see gameplay earlier this year for the last three games.
I really hope Spider-Man comes out in 2017.
Also, scratch Nex Machina: didn't realize they're self-publishing that one.
Gran Turismo Sport (assuming it doesn't encounter more delays like GT games like to do)
Gravity Rush 2
Horizon: Zero Dawn
Hot Shots Sequel(?)
Knack 2
MLB The Show 17
Nioh
Uncharted: The Lost Legacy
Wipeout Omega Collection
With the smaller games, I think:
Drawn To Death
Locoroco Remastered
Parappa Remastered
Patapon Remastered
What Remains of Edith Finch
Wild
But I have to think that out of Dreams, Detroit: Become Human, Days Gone, Spider-Man and God of War, a few of them are coming next year. Two of them have been known about for a while, and it was cool to see gameplay earlier this year for the last three games.
I really hope Spider-Man comes out in 2017.
Also, scratch Nex Machina: didn't realize they're self-publishing that one.
I think we'll get Detroit next year, possibly Days Gone.
Absolutely no way Spider Man releases in 2017 though.
Theslammer
Member
Yeah, just realized Matterfall is Sony-published but Nex Machina is self-published.
What Remains of Edith Finch is not a Sony game anymore.
And yeah, I believe that thats it. Not really confident in WiLD coming next year (would love to though) and maybe Detroit comes out in September or something, but your list is pretty much whats in store for 2017
Only stuff I see that can be announced and released in 2017 is remasters. Maybe Demon Souls after BB2 is announced at E3.
A man can dream
Did we see gameplay footage of Spider-Man? I think it was just a highly scripted cutscene made to resemble gameplay as a teaser of what to expect of the gameplay.
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