Rumor: BG&E2: Odyssey is a Switch timed exclusive (12 months, then PS4/XB1/PC)

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RuhRo

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I was totally charmed by the original, so I'm rooting for this to come out in any form.

I assume it's not going to do big numbers regardless, so a platform holder pushing it as a prestige project probably makes sense.

I'd find a *timed* exclusive on less powerful hardware to be the most annoying of all possible outcomes, since I'd want to play the best version and would hold out a year for the opportunity.
 

BasilZero

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Oh wow.



Kinda lame that they leak it now lol

I'll get it on PC then. Maybe I'll get it sooner on PC than when I eventually get a Switch which will be about two years after its release.
 

cheesekao

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Capcom is selling millions of copies of Monster Hunter on Nintendo every year with over a million of those being in the West(even got no.1 in the US charts).
Shipped, not sold. Also, there was no press release for western MHX sales iirc and it was down from MH4 based on sales charts..
 

Nzyme32

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Talk about "salt"... :D

Hahaha - how can someone be salty about how someone else responds - as I said before, exclusivity is not going to change a thing for me, but clearly for you, someone who thinks nintendo fans need to "worry" about this, the "salt" is clearly with you.

You are abstracting things by talking about "people". like you have the "numbers".

FOR SURE there are"people" out there waiting for the game. The problem is the amount of this people.

As someone else said, this is more of a prestige project. And Nintendo Switch does not need prestige projects a-la Shenmue 3. It needs substance.

How the hell am I "abstracting numbers" - I literally didn't use numbers because it isn't clear at all. Me stating that there is an undefined amount of people that will buy whatever it is on, is not a statement of some gargantuan system seller or that it is worthwhile at all. If the game seems good, some people with no interest may look into it. The situation is entirely open ended till we know more about the actual game. You losing your shit about it, calling it an "idiotic" decision for people to be worried about, when many platforms and developers choose such a route on consoles, is again pathetic when you don't know what else is in the works for the system, what other exclusivity / content may be coming etc.
 

LordKano

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Not really. Remember Rayman Legends and Zombi-U?

This will be the same result with Ubisoft making their money back from releasing the game on platforms with actual install bases.

You mean, the two games that actually sold way more on Wii U than on other platforms ?
 

Cloud7

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Honestly, I just hope that BG&E2 isn't the final Switch reveal game of the event. Would be underwhelming for me. It's a niche title.
 

Oersted

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Shipped, not sold.

Sold to retailers, sold to endconsumers trough the eShop to be precise.

Not really. Remember Rayman Legends and Zombi-U?

This will be the same result with Ubisoft making their money back from releasing the game on platforms with actual install bases.

Rayman Legends was meant to be a WiiU exclusive,switched to all plattforms prerelease and sold best on WiiU.

We have no clue how much ZombiU sold on PS4/Xbox One. Doesn't seem alot.

Beyond Good & Evil 2 is according to this rumor a timed exclusive from the get go.

Different stories all around.
 

koss424

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Did Reggie kick your dog or something?? Did Miyamoto fart on your pillow? Did Kimishima steal your girl? Why are you so angry?

If this is how Nintendo wants to spend their money to promote their consoles, that up to them. It's probably a good strategy. it certainly isn't ati-consumer to any large degree. It's a video game, not drinking water.
 

Crono27

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Not really. Remember Rayman Legends and Zombi-U?

This will be the same result with Ubisoft making their money back from releasing the game on platforms with actual install bases.

How well did they sell on those other consoles. Inb4 they didn't release at the same time.
 

Calm Mind

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Not really. Remember Rayman Legends and Zombi-U?

This will be the same result with Ubisoft making their money back from releasing the game on platforms with actual install bases.

Correct me if I'm wrong but didn't those games do considerably worse on other platforms?
 
Seems silly to release any game since it has an install base of 0.
The Switch should only get multi ugly games. In fact it shouldn't even get released, there's Mario Run on phones.

Reading some comments here is such a chore.

going exclusive with BG+E2 just seems like a bad idea if you want to bring a franchise back. - specifically. If its a new game, who cares. go switch.
 
Do you guys still believe this after all the flip flopping?

-First it was a Switch exclusive which would be out in 2017.

-Then when Ancel and Ubisoft reveal that they've just started production the release date is magically pushed to 2018 but still exclusive.

-Now it's just timed

Feels like a lot of weird back and forth.
 

SmokedMeat

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Good on UBI Soft to make a few bucks selling timed exclusivity to Nintendo for BG&E2. At least we know it'll have made some money.
 

Ridley327

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So not funded by Nintendo most likely?

Hmm, I do wonder while digital only for PS/XB.

Given the details, it sounds like Nintendo would likely be a major component in advertising the game, and if the retail exclusivity does pan out, that might suggest that it would go as far as Nintendo publishing the game on Ubisoft's behalf.
 
I dint buy that this is their closing game for the event. It has to be a 1st party Nintendo game like usually.

It far more niche then Bayonetta in my opinion.
 

Meier

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I absolutely loved the original on Gamecube. Fingers crossed about this one! If it's anywhere near the first's quality then I'll be thrilled.
 

cheesekao

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No it didn't. 4 sold 4.1 million in Japan, 4U sold 4.1 worldwide and Generations did the same. XX won't hit 4.1 million.
X is higher on the chart than 4. If they treated all 4.1 million sellers the same then 4 would be at the top, followed by 4u and then X or vice versa.
 

MacTag

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MHX sold more than MH4. The "it's a spinoff" excuse doesn't really hold up at this point.
It's not an excuse, it's reality. Capcom sold over half a million more units of MHX than they expected in Japan.

Also it sold the same as MH4. MH4, MH4U and MHGen are all sitting pretty at 4.1m worldwide.
 

ultrazilla

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Just recently Ancel reiterated that the scope of this game needs strong hardware (and isn't coming out anytime soon).

This bodes very well then for Switch. Though, I really never doubted it wouldn't be substantially stronger than a Wii U. And my threshold for substantially stronger is 2x(double) that of the Wii U. We've gotten rumors of possibly 5x but yeah....good news irregardless.
 

cheesekao

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It's not an excuse, it's reality. Capcom sold over half a million more units of MHX than they expected in Japan.
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That's exactly my point. MHX sold more than MH4 based on its chart ranking. Nobody can say that it sold less than a mainline series because it was a spin-off anymore. This time, western sales did not reach the heights of MH4U based on the data we got from sales threads and Japan picked up the slack.
 
Prediction: BG&E2 will sell poorly on Switch because it won't be the type of system where people want to play a game like that on and because people will know about the timed exclusivity and so they won't buy a switch for it, then when it releases on other systems people won't buy it because it'll seem like old news
The game would have come out years ago if it were the type of game to sell well on any system. At the very least, everybody who owns a current console can play it eventually.
 
I will buy it on Switch day one. if the rumour isn't true i will buy it on PC or PS4, doesn't matter to me, can't wait to see how the game turns out. Glad that it exists. That said i hope the rumour is true, want to see the game @ the Switch presentation.
 

Oregano

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That's exactly my point. MHX sold more than MH4 based on its chart ranking. Nobody can say that it sold less than a mainline series because it was a spin-off anymore.

Even if your point about chart ranking is true(I'm not convinced) you are ignoring that MH4 sold 4.1 in Japan whereas Generations only managed that worldwide.
 

fernoca

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Though some of the reactions are...as expected.

BG&E underperformed on release back then, to the point that it was shelved. The HD release did nothing to change that.

Yet, years later and on Switch... BG&E is dead.

Not when it sold badly on the 100+ million PS2... no, now it will fail.
 

Ivan 3414

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Not really. Remember Rayman Legends and Zombi-U?

This will be the same result with Ubisoft making their money back from releasing the game on platforms with actual install bases.

Lmao

1. I think it's pretty obvious that Switch doesn't have an install base. It isn't out yet.

2. Did Ubisoft really make their money back on those ports? Rayman got delayed to release on all consoles and Wii U version still sold the best despite all those "actual install bases". And I haven't heard anything about the Zombi port but I'm willing to bet the PS4/XBO versions combined didn't outsell ZombiU at this point.
 

MacTag

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That's exactly my point. MHX sold more than MH4 based on its chart ranking. Nobody can say that it sold less than a mainline series because it was a spin-off anymore.
Chart ranking means nothing. If one game shipped more than 4.1m it'd be reflected in the platinum charts. The charts also don't contain budget rereleases so really MH4U should be highest.

And it very literally is a spinoff. It's basically MH All-Stars or something.
 
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