Nintendo Switch Presentation 2017 Thread: Joy-Conference

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VanWinkle said:
I'm honestly just...completely shocked. Around 10pm I was telling my wife how excited I was for this presentation, had multiple sites loaded up, occasionally refreshing them just in case preorders went up, etc. This presentation took away EVERY BIT of my excitement. I closed out all the preorder pages, and just gave up on it. I cannot get over how much they turned me around from the hype I had after that initial reveal trailer.

In dismay.
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Nintendo is really good at disappointing.

It only takes a few key moves to make people go crazy. If they showed 10 or so quality first party Nintendo titles, everyone would be going nuts. But they just don't understand and they never will.
 
You guys set your expectations way too high, this happens for basically every single press conference that Nintendo ever does. It's OK to be disappointed with the presentation, but some of you were acting like it would cost $200 and come with 10 launch games.
 
orthodoxy1095 said:
What's crazy to me is that Arms and 1-2 Switch look so uninspiring that they make Nintendoland look like an all time great in retrospect.

Note: I rather liked Nintendoland, but still. You get what I mean.
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Arms looks fun, but... What they showed does not look like a 60 dollar game. Like what are the differences between the playable characters? Are there any more playable characters than Spring Guy and Ribbon Girl? Are there different levels, and do those levels affect the fighting? Is there single player shit?
 
This was a bad show. They should have had a pre-show for the Switch for all that hardware controller stuff or just released it on youtube earlier in the day and simply swamped us in great games for the switch and price. I'd have to give this show a D-. Honestly it feels like they should have pushed the release date to July if they barely had any games available right now.
 
The system has all the problems the Wii U has on top of Nintendo thinking they can now charge Apple prices for accessories and have the capital to charge for online like MS/Sony.

This thing is going to bomb hard and be an utter disaster.
 
orthodoxy1095 said:
What's crazy to me is that Arms and 1-2 Switch look so uninspiring that they make Nintendoland look brilliant in retrospect.

Note: I rather liked Nintendoland, but still. You get what I mean.
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Ortho, I feel like you and I share a lot of the same views, yeah?

You would agree that this seems like Nintendo at its most misguided, right?

Like they have learned absolutely nothing from the 3DS and Wii U? If anything, aspects of their concept is even more flawed.

What we are seeing here is a proprietary gimmick inflating the price of what is otherwise cheap hardware components.

There was a time when they chose cheao hardware because it kept costs down. $250 Wii vs $400-500 competitors. $200 launch prices for homes consoles before that, considerably cheaper than most competitor machines, sub-$100 handhelds that killed higher tech competition.

Affordable and durable was what Nintendo was known for. What the hell are they doing? They are putting out cheap hardware with a premium pricetag. They don't seem to understand the current market at all.

Then there is the launch line up. They have a pretty long list of games that arent coming anybtime soon.

The price of the hardware, controllers and games goes completely against the casual market they seem to want back.

This thing does not seem ready for March 3. They are pushing a system out to early for the third time. No games, missing online features...

I bet that the OS is severely undercooked again.
 
JinnAxel said:
North American Switch Lineup according to Nintendo: http://www.nintendo.com/games/game-guide?pv=true#filter/switch
March 2017
Zelda: BotW (+Special/Master editions) $59.99/$99.99/$129.99
1, 2, Switch $49.99
I Am Setsuna
Has Been Heroes
Just Dance 2017
Snipperclips - Cut it out, together! $19.99
Super Bomberman R

April 28, 2017
Mario Kart 8 Deluxe $59.99

Spring 2017
Arms $59.99
Lego City Undercover
Sonic Mania

Summer 2017
Splatoon 2

Fall 2017
Skyrim
NBA 2k18 (September)

Holiday 2017
Super Mario Odyssey

2017
Project Sonic 2017

TBD
Arcade Archives
FIFA
Ultra Street Fighter II: The Final Challengers
Disgaea 5 Complete
Dragonball Z Xenoverse 2
Farming Simulator
Fast RMX (that F-zero lookalike from the sizzle)
Fire Emblem Warriors
Minecraft Story Mode The complete adventure
Minecraft
Puyopuyo Tetris
Rayman Legends Definitive edition
Rime
Shin Megami Tensei
Skylanders Imaginators
Siberia 3
Steep

EDIT: Nintendo is editing information in real time.
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Someone needs to edit the OT for launch titles with the real list.
 
RedFox85 said:
Did anyone else think "Wtf is Mario doing in the city from Sonic Adventure" when the footage for that game first started?
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I was thinking the game would be themed around Mario exploring levels based around different styles of video game. Hence the weird styles for most of the worlds.
 
Ninja Scooter said:
the wording is crystal clear in the documentation they have released. Again, I ask you, if hte App can run natively what is the point of releasing it separately for smart devices? Who would say "Nah I don't want to voice chat through my Switch let me download this app to my phone". What would be the point of it?
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If they're dumb enough to have it ONLY available on the app, I can believe they would have it available on both.

Besides, how will it work until the App launches in the summer?
 
Nickle said:
You guys set your expectations way too high, this happens for basically every single press conference that Nintendo ever does. It's OK to be disappointed with the presentation, but some of you were acting like it would cost $200 and come with 10 launch games.
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Thing is, Nintendo has set the bar so low that whatever anyone hopes for makes their expectations too high.

Nintendo is riding a Wii U game (Zelda) and overpriced hardware + accessories to make profit from this machine. The value proposition to a consumer is all time low.
 
I'd give the show a 6 out of 10 overall. I was hoping for more game reveals, especially from neglected first party favorites like Metroid and F-Zero (especially Metroid though). On the other hand, I'm really stoked for Splatoon 2, ARMS looks really cool and creative, and Zelda and Mario both look like they could be favorite in their respective series and I'm sold on the Switch for those games alone. I was expecting Nintendo to come out swinging a bit harder, but oh well. I'm still excited. And I'm curious as hell about E3 now. :)

zoukka said:
The value proposition to me is all time low.
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The conference has turned me into much more of a cynic than I realized, or maybe a realist?

In the end, I just feel bad for Nintendo. Arms and the joy-con stuff looks so much fun, but the tech makes it too overpriced for its own good.

Mario, Xenoblade, and Zelda are amazing, and in the end, appreciating all the financial privilege I have, I guess that's all that matters.
 
Nickle said:
You guys set your expectations way too high, this happens for basically every single press conference that Nintendo ever does. It's OK to be disappointed with the presentation, but some of you were acting like it would cost $200 and come with 10 launch games.
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10 launch games...whoah, let's not go overboard haha (PS4 had like 25 btw)
 
So does the dock have an extra fan? I want to know if I can charge the handheld without it being docked and if it runs at full speed in this case.
 
orthodoxy1095 said:
What's crazy to me is that Arms and 1-2 Switch look so uninspiring that they make Nintendoland look like an all time great in retrospect.

Note: I rather liked Nintendoland, but still. You get what I mean.
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Dude, Nintendoland was a MILLION times more interesting than these two games look.
 
Another thing. You know 3rd party support/Hardware is going to be bad when EA cant even be bothered to send someone important or mention Frostbyte. The Switch is going to get the Android/Ios version of Fifa isnt it.

TlDR: ignore me, im overreacting
 
orthodoxy1095 said:
What's crazy to me is that Arms and 1-2 Switch look so uninspiring that they make Nintendoland look like an all time great in retrospect.

Note: I rather liked Nintendoland, but still. You get what I mean.
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I actually like Arms but 1, 2 Switch barely looks like a game. :S

And yeah I agree about Nintendoland.
 
This was absolutely terrible. What the hell.

The thing was paced awfully, but that would have been okay if there had been games. Where are the games???

That sizzle reel showing games was laughably bad and really highlights their awful third party. I mean, Rayman Legends, really? How about something from this year that's not Fifa? But then again, I wouldn't care about third party, but the first party was laughable aswell.

I'm officially unsold.
 
Ninja Scooter said:
Street Fighter 2 HD is FORTY mu'fuckin' DOLLARS??!
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I got hyped. Y'all are so negative.

Zelda trailer was absolutely glorious. FE Warriors? Xenoblade 2? Mario Odyssey? Octopath? Pshhh.

Launch lineup is obviously weak, but Zelda will tide me over for a long, long time.
 
Takeru said:
I actually like Arms but 1, 2 Switch barely looks like a game. :S

And yeah I agree about Nintendoland.
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It looks like a great VR concept. I could imagine 4 people wearing Gear VR style headsets playing something similar in the same room. Unfortunately without the VR hook there is not enough visual feedback which means you are just stupidly staring at your friends
 
Loved the conference and the games.

You guys are just doing your typical song and dance like always.

Mario looks amazing and i cant wait for it.
 
Everything looked bad

But the worst is Mario. I've never seen anything so dumb.

Nintendo has their head so far up their own ass
 
Toxi said:
Arms looks fun, but... What they showed does not look like a 60 dollar game. Like what are the differences between the playable characters? Are there any more playable characters than Spring Guy and Ribbon Girl? Are there different levels, and do those levels affect the fighting? Is there single player shit?
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Well yeah, that's exactly the issue. If Arms or 1-2 were pack-in titles to showcase the novelty of the system, I wouldn't have a problem right now. But they did little to show what about those games justifies full pricing.
Cow Goes Moo said:
wii u software troubles/development applied over to switch development
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the whole 3ds+ wii u development teams both supporting the new system is kind of glass half full view

considering that 3ds game development is much more expedient then hd game development
the same troubles and time for development that nintendo had for its wii u game makers
would also apply to those former 3ds game development makers

of course that means more in the pipeline but the production still goes at the same speed more or less

assuming of course that is what they are doing still
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I didn't expect too much from the 3DS pipeline given that there was at least some semblance of a release schedule for the past year. But I expected more from the Wii U teams switching over given that it's been a pretty abysmal year and a half now.
 
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