2016-17 TV Cancellations Thread: TNT finds "Nothing can come of nothing."

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Nat Geo has renewed 'Mars' for season 2.

Cool, I really liked it. Though I'm not that sure where they are going to go from here, it felt like a complete story. Once they made the discovery of
life
it jumped from hard sci-fi/docu to something more speculative.

Maybe they will go all Kim Stanley Robinson or make it a prequel to The Expanse.
 
Just finally caught up on the crossover for the CW DC shows and I loved it. It was fun seeing the characters interact even though the dominators storyline was pretty meh.

I also caught up on arrow and holy shit was that finale dark. I'm guessing that
laurel is probably the earth-2 version or some shit? I wonder who promethius really is

Also caught up on Flash and it was great. However the storyline is starting to piss me off.
Barry fucked up time and in the preview for the next ep he just wants to try to change the future when other flash told him the future is multiple possibilities, kind of frustrating.

Overall excited, Arrow seems to be back at the top again.

I still need to catch up on legends of tomorrow and agents of shield. Is that inHumans show still in the works?
 
Let's talk about the shows that are appropriatly rated next.

I don't hear too many people going to war over Warehouse 13.
 
Maaan there really is a lot of slack on posting ratings lately. Granted no one cares about Fridays.


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I love Portlandia but hanging up it feels right. 8 seasons is a great run. And they could always do specials later on down the road. Now give me an Austin spin-off that's essentially the same but hotter, IFC.

What does IFC still air? Maron ended last year and isn't Comedy Bang Bang done too?
 
What does IFC still air? Maron ended last year and isn't Comedy Bang Bang done too?

Documentary Now, Stan Against Evil. That's it. Almost all of their shows in the last five years have been 1-2 season shows.


There's also Epix, which airs Berlin Station and Graves and that's it... and El Rey, which airs From Dusk Til Dawn and that's it... and Pop! which airs Nightcap and Schitt's Creek and that's it... and Pivot shut down, which aired just Please Like Me and Fortitude. Yay no-name channels!
 
Maaan there really is a lot of slack on posting ratings lately. Granted no one cares about Fridays.


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I wonder who watches Dr. Ken. I assume it's not really compatible with the rest of the block, but it doesn't really fit in the "feel good" family block either. But who wants to be the network that kills an all Asian sitcom?

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I kind of wish there was an insider British TV critic person to explain why BBC would consistently burn off episodes of Father Brown right after New Years Day at one new episode per day.

It's a show that doesn't really fit in the generic 6-8 episode weekly format, and they could probably keep it going for three months, like an American show, if they wanted to.

Of course I'm probably the only non-British person under 50 to even watch the show, so I guess old people just like the familiarity of checking in on a show everyday like it was Coronation Street or something. lol
 
I wonder who watches Dr. Ken. I assume it's not really compatible with the rest of the block, but it doesn't really fit in the "feel good" family block either. But who wants to be the network that kills an all Asian sitcom?

ABC still has Fresh Off the Boat so it's not like it's completely killing off all of its Asian sitcoms should Dr. Ken get cancelled.
 
My Google skills are failing me hard...

Any word on whether The Librarians is getting renewed? Considering how the plot-arc of the current season is going, I assume they're waiting til after the season finale to reveal renewed/cancellation/ended status... But I'm dead curious. :D
 
just saw that B99 isnt coming back until April...

April. Whut?

Its dead isnt it Ratsky?
 
ABC still has Fresh Off the Boat so it's not like it's completely killing off all of its Asian sitcoms should Dr. Ken get cancelled.
Sure, but still. lol
Although I guess if no one watches it, they can probably just blame the economics or whatever.
 
B99 isn't dead. I'm not sure why people are having so much trouble understanding that Fox has more shows than time slots, no shows repeat well anymore, so things share slots.

Hell, after its next two episodes Gotham won't be back until 4/24 and there is literally no chance it doesn't get renewed.
 
B99 isn't dead. I'm not sure why people are having so much trouble understanding that Fox has more shows than time slots, no shows repeat well anymore, so things share slots.

Hell, after its next two episodes Gotham won't be back until 4/24 and there is literally no chance it doesn't get renewed.

Such a terrible decision

I'd rather they kept it all off until April, but alas
 
Now that I think about it, most of Syfy's output probably falls into the "appropriately rated" category.

Like, everyone watching Z Nation or Wyonna Earp knows exactly what they're watching.
 
Documentary Now, Stan Against Evil. That's it. Almost all of their shows in the last five years have been 1-2 season shows.


There's also Epix, which airs Berlin Station and Graves and that's it... and El Rey, which airs From Dusk Til Dawn and that's it... and Pop! which airs Nightcap and Schitt's Creek and that's it... and Pivot shut down, which aired just Please Like Me and Fortitude. Yay no-name channels!

If you combined all of those shows into one network, you might have a decent lineup that could attract something resembling an audience.

I wish cable channels would contract faster.
 
Not such a great non-Voice showing for Timeless. I wonder if they'll be at all satisfied with that.

The team have been live-tweeting the hell out of it, even taking over Sony Pictures' Twitter account to help promote. But I don't know if that sort of thing ever helps in the long run.
 
Okay, so I need to ask. Do we know anything about these shows, if they have been picked up, dropped or even has a premiere date?

I'm trying to figure out what's going on with all of these shows.

You asked about Time After Time, I just saw the ABC midseason schedule and it's coming with a 2 hr premiere March 5th

BTW, secret best network show American Crime is coming back March 4th.

Imaginary Mary has a sneak preview on 3/29 and then debuts its time period premiere on April 4th. For those keeping track, that is the worst looking comedy series of all time.

Source: http://deadline.com/2017/01/abc-mid...dancing-others-get-premiere-dates-1201882316/

The team have been live-tweeting the hell out of it, even taking over Sony Pictures' Twitter account to help promote. But I don't know if that sort of thing ever helps in the long run.

Thanks for the info! Here's hoping they can see those DVR numbers in a sufficiently positive way, I really dig the show.
 
Thought about making a thread with this question but figured this thread is essentially TV-GAF, so I'll post it here.

Over the past few days, some interesting snippets of info have hit me and I've started thinking about what exactly it all means for how we consume TV (network/cable). The two snippets:
- the comment above that Lucifer is likely not going to be renewed, despite the fact that apparently 4M people watch the show (its rating in the demo is 1.1).
- my son telling me we could stop DVR'ing a couple of the shows he watches because he'd catch them on Netflix when they become available later
- the, in my opinion, archaic notion that the ad audience remains in the 18-49 space, despite what appears to be more and more of those 18-25 year olds abandoning network/cable for streaming, whereas the upper end of the 49 might be more "set in their ways" for watching scheduled TV

And really this all comes down to scheduled TV. I personally watch the following TV live:
- ABC World News with David Muir at 6:30, especially over the last year or so leading into the travesty of this election and now the fallout (hopefully not nuclear)
- Live sporting events, mostly NFL Football, though sometimes NHL Hockey
- Event TV Shows, which for me are The Walking Dead (which I still time delay by about 20 minutes so that I can FF through ads) and Game of Thrones (which doesn't have ads).

Everything else I either watch a DVR'd copy or stream it (via On Demand DirecTV, Netflix or Amazon Prime).


I don't know if I'm typical. My wife and I are 49, we have 19 and 17 year old boys. This is basically how we all view TV. Even my wife, who doesn't watch football, will tend to stream or grab DVR'd shows rather than watch something live while me and the boys are engrossed in a football game.

I put all this out there as a basis for the discussion to follow. Basically, I think network/cable TV is in transition. Clearly they're not getting the viewership per channel or per show they were getting when the options were fewer. But also clearly, it's impossible to look at ratings alone and make a determination that a show should be canceled. A show that performs poorly in its live slot may rise in its L+3 or L+7 or may perform very well on Netflix (see son's comment above where he'd prefer to watch his network TV that way). But are those shows that may attract viewers on Netflix doomed to failure if they cannot attract a live or L+3 following to sustain their budget?

With some networks, such as CBS, attempting to create their own paid streaming services, with their own exclusive content (new Star Trek), we seem to be getting more and more into what almost appear to be console wars. Certainly Netflix and Amazon Prime and Hulu have begun their own original programming. But at what point will I turn to NBC and not necessarily see a show that is scheduled for 8PM but a selection of available shows to watch? Is that the future, where regardless of whether it's network/cable or streamed via a device, the option for what entertainment is left to the viewer? And if so, at what point do ads become mandatory viewing, because the entertainment we consume on network/cable TV is partially paid for by advertising?

Anyway, thought it might be interesting discussion to posit how network/cable TV will change in the near future.
 
- the comment above that Lucifer is likely not going to be renewed, despite the fact that apparently 4M people watch the show (its rating in the demo is 1.1).

Didn't he say he DOESN'T see Fox not renewing Gotham and Lucifer? As in he's saying it's likely that Lucifer will be renewed?
 
There's also Epix, which airs Berlin Station and Graves and that's it... and El Rey, which airs From Dusk Til Dawn and that's it... and Pop! which airs Nightcap and Schitt's Creek and that's it... and Pivot shut down, which aired just Please Like Me and Fortitude. Yay no-name channels!

Well, to be fair, Epix just launched. They renewed both their shows and they have Get Shorty and another series starring Meg Ryan coming up so they're still very much in the game.

El Rey is probably going to croak any minute now though - From Dusk Til Dawn is dead and they literally have nothing else in the works - unless Lucha Underground can somehow keep them afloat?
 
Seems like Gotham came back decently

Don't see FOX not renewing this and Lucifer

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I remember before Gotham even aired they announced that Netflix had picked up the right for a couple of million an episode. I'm not sure if that deal is still going on but as long as it is I can't see it getting cancelled, Warner can lower the cost Fox pays every episode if the Netflix money is still enough to continue making the show.
 
I remember before Gotham even aired they announced that Netflix had picked up the right for a couple of million an episode. I'm not sure if that deal is still going on but as long as it is I can't see it getting cancelled, Warner can lower the cost Fox pays every episode if the Netflix money is still enough to continue making the show.

Yup. Gotham is a huge profit driver for Warners, in Britain it gets a first run on broadcast and then goes to Netflix a few months later. At this point it would make sense for WB to just give Fox Gotham for pennies and then rake it in from international sales etc.

Also worth noting that WB has a huge output deal with Amazon to distribute the show outside the US.

so I'm going with "Snap. Crackle. Pop." when Crackle shuts down, just for anyone wondering.

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The Gotham deal was rumored to be $1.75M an episode actually, it'd definitely be interesting to know if that's still on going. Either way WB is making a good deal of money off it.
 
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