Wonder Woman Is a Disjointed Disaster (Says DC Insider)

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DeathyBoy

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Zack Snyder wanted to make a Sucker Punch sequel, clearly (disjointed WWI-era movie about scantily-clad asskicking women).

He's.
Not.
Making.
This.
Film.

And you clearly haven't suffered through Sucker Punch if you think this film looks anything like that one.

ETA

Someone should ask the Russo brothers what they think about Thor 2 the darkworld.

Ask Alan Taylor how he felt when Marvel added that shitty prologue.
 

Zen Aku

Member
They'll become friends when they both realize they love Asian women.

Ahhh the love of Oriental women is the cure for all conflicts. Now we just gotta find one named Martha.

I can also agree with that assessment.
I think that's what I love most about all the Cap movies. There's at least one moment where he is contemplating or interacting with someone from his past and you're immediately reminded that even with all these conflicts going on, he's a man so out of his own time. I think it's pains greatly him in that regard, but as a good soldier, he rarely lets it show.
 

DeathoftheEndless

Crashing this plane... with no survivors!

I don't think the films have done poorly enough financially to pull the plug that quickly. They'll ditch Snyder if Justice League underperforms and probably look to reboot Superman. Affleck's Batman, Wan's Aquaman, Gotham City Sirens, and possibly SS2 are going to happen, but the rest of the projects (lol Cyborg) are up in the air.
 

this_guy

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Suicide Squad is supposed to be a fun little side project in the vain of Marvel movies. it's not meant to be taken seriously. you watch it once, laugh a few times and forget about it. the theater i was in loved it. and i gotta admit it was infectious and i loved it too. i noticed a lot of problems on my second viewing but it did what it set out to do. Make a funny, action packed blockbuster and they succeeded.

What ended up happening is that all the critics and fans decided to treat this like a fucking oscar contender and absolutely ravaged it. we care about editing and narrative flow in our comic book movies now? we care about villains in our movies now? where was this outrage where iron man 2 and thor 2 ended up in the 70s on rotten tomatoes? even Star Wars Episode 3 is in the 70s. and that movie is fucking trash.

there is this double standard that seems to be hitting DC movies. it started with Man of Steel which was a perfectly fine comic book movie. it sat at a 56% of rotten tomatoes and the internet was brutal with its memes and treating it like a piece of shit movie while completely ignoring problems with how formulaic and forgettable marvel movies had become. i didnt care because i still had a few laughs and liked the visuals in marvel movies, but now i am like why am i giving these movies a break when others arent willing to do with D.C movies?

In no universe, do BvS and SS belong in the 20s. I dont care how rottentomatoes measures their reviews but that is simply absurd. i refuse to believe that over 70% of the critics thought they were rotten and over 70% of the same critics thought IM2,IM3, Thor 2 were fresh.

When you think it's everyone else, it's probably just you.
 

rac

Banned
How so?

They're making more money now than Marvel did when their cinematic universe started. SS made more money than Strange or Ant-Man despite the critical backlash and MCU goodwill. Like yes, make better films, but at the moment it's not like they're losing money particularly.


its almost like batman/superman and joker/harley are popular characters
 
Someone should ask the Russo brothers what they think about Thor 2 the darkworld.

They probably have the same idea as James Gunn: say nothing if you have nothing good to say. So far Shane Black is the only Marvel Studios director willing to criticize other Marvel Studios movies.

That said, personal taste and director talent has no correlation.
 

JeTmAn81

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Somebody needs to stop getting their movie scoops from this guy

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DeathyBoy

Banned
its almost like batman/superman and joker/harley are popular characters

Wahoo, full circle.

Person 1) DC films are terrible and have bad word of mouth.
Person 2) They have good WOM actually.
Person 1) Yeah, but Marvel makes more money.
Person 2) If Iron Man is in the film.
Person 1) Yeah, but Batman v Superman only made 860 million.
Person 2) DC make that much with 'bad' films.
Person 1) But they'd make more with good films, Ergo BOMBA. REBOOT.
Person 2) Thor 2.
 
Suicide Squad is supposed to be a fun little side project in the vain of Marvel movies. it's not meant to be taken seriously. you watch it once, laugh a few times and forget about it. the theater i was in loved it. and i gotta admit it was infectious and i loved it too. i noticed a lot of problems on my second viewing but it did what it set out to do. Make a funny, action packed blockbuster and they succeeded.

What ended up happening is that all the critics and fans decided to treat this like a fucking oscar contender and absolutely ravaged it. we care about editing and narrative flow in our comic book movies now? we care about villains in our movies now? where was this outrage where iron man 2 and thor 2 ended up in the 70s on rotten tomatoes? even Star Wars Episode 3 is in the 70s. and that movie is fucking trash.

there is this double standard that seems to be hitting DC movies. it started with Man of Steel which was a perfectly fine comic book movie. it sat at a 56% of rotten tomatoes and the internet was brutal with its memes and treating it like a piece of shit movie while completely ignoring problems with how formulaic and forgettable marvel movies had become. i didnt care because i still had a few laughs and liked the visuals in marvel movies, but now i am like why am i giving these movies a break when others arent willing to do with D.C movies?

In no universe, do BvS and SS belong in the 20s. I dont care how rottentomatoes measures their reviews but that is simply absurd. i refuse to believe that over 70% of the critics thought they were rotten and over 70% of the same critics thought IM2,IM3, Thor 2 were fresh.

Sweet Jesus.
 

Azazzel

Member
How so?

They're making more money now than Marvel did when their cinematic universe started. SS made more money than Strange or Ant-Man despite the critical backlash and MCU goodwill. Like yes, make better films, but at the moment it's not like they're losing money particularly.

Well, those movies exist in a post MCU world so it's almost impossible for them to make less money than the original Marvel movies such as IronMan or Hulk.
 
I thought a valid source said the changes in WB's DC film-making creative team (addition of Johns and some other things) happened too late to affect WW and that JL would be the first DC film made with the criticisms of BVS in mind. So while this is disappointing, I'm going to wait and see how JL turns out.
 
The DCEU is still batting above .500 for me (loved MoS, liked BvS a lot while recognizing it had some serious problems, SS was a whiff) and the trailers for WW have looked good so I'm definitely looking forward to this and hoping for the best.
 

rac

Banned
Wahoo, full circle.

Person 1) DC films are terrible and have bad word of mouth.
Person 2) They have good WOM actually.
Person 1) Yeah, but Marvel makes more money.
Person 2) If Iron Man is in the film.
Person 1) Yeah, but Batman v Superman only made 860 million.
Person 2) DC make that much with 'bad' films.
Person 1) But they'd make more with good films, Ergo BOMBA. REBOOT.
Person 2) Thor 2.

is there a twitter post that i can use to debunk this?

i dont give a shit about mcu vs dcu
 

LosDaddie

Banned
Man some of you have completely gone off the deep end. Film critics have a vendetta against DC films. Of course they do. It couldn't be that they're just bad films.

I believe that when you reach the point of believing there's an active conspiracy/agenda against DC films, that you've already gone off the deep end. It's time to take a step back and reexamine one's perspective.

Sure it's fun to discuss these movies on message boards during the ups & downs of development, but an actual conspiracy by critics against DC films? Nah.
 

Dalek

Member
I believe that when you reach the point of believing there's an active conspiracy/agenda against DC films, that you've already gone off the deep end. It's time to take a step back and reexamine one's perspective.

Sure it's fun to discuss these movies on message boards during the ups & downs of development, but an actual conspiracy by critics against DC films? Nah.

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El Topo

Member
There's an easy way to test this. Hey Bronson, on a scale of 1 to 10, how much do you want to burn all comics with Captain Marvel in them?
 
As I've said before, we're not going to see the real effects of the post-BvS DCEU shakeup until next year. SS had already wrapped, WW had almost wrapped, and Justice League was about to start filming by the time WB had any clue that BvS wasn't getting the reception they'd hoped for.

I imagine JL was rewritten as much as possible on-set to lighten the tone, but the story and key set pieces had to have been locked down well before BvS reviews came in. I hope it and WW are good, but I don't expect much.
 

The Kree

Banned
Suicide Squad is supposed to be a fun little side project in the vain of Marvel movies. it's not meant to be taken seriously. you watch it once, laugh a few times and forget about it. the theater i was in loved it. and i gotta admit it was infectious and i loved it too. i noticed a lot of problems on my second viewing but it did what it set out to do. Make a funny, action packed blockbuster and they succeeded.

What ended up happening is that all the critics and fans decided to treat this like a fucking oscar contender and absolutely ravaged it. we care about editing and narrative flow in our comic book movies now? we care about villains in our movies now? where was this outrage where iron man 2 and thor 2 ended up in the 70s on rotten tomatoes? even Star Wars Episode 3 is in the 70s. and that movie is fucking trash.

there is this double standard that seems to be hitting DC movies. it started with Man of Steel which was a perfectly fine comic book movie. it sat at a 56% of rotten tomatoes and the internet was brutal with its memes and treating it like a piece of shit movie while completely ignoring problems with how formulaic and forgettable marvel movies had become. i didnt care because i still had a few laughs and liked the visuals in marvel movies, but now i am like why am i giving these movies a break when others arent willing to do with D.C movies?

In no universe, do BvS and SS belong in the 20s. I dont care how rottentomatoes measures their reviews but that is simply absurd. i refuse to believe that over 70% of the critics thought they were rotten and over 70% of the same critics thought IM2,IM3, Thor 2 were fresh.

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