Reggie: Switch matchmaking and lobbies handled through phone app

Status
Not open for further replies.
I'll post it again because people seem to ignore it in favor of more lol nintendo posts.

Matchmaking is not something your game console does. It is something that game software and servers does. It is set up on a per game basis. The online service itself can tell what players status is but it does not actually control what games you get matched into. That's why matchmaking works differently in different games.

Something like Xbox live or PSN handles the voice chat and invites/friend lists but it does not control what game you get out in when you select quick play in overwatch. Overwatch and the overwatch servers do that.

It would be totally insane to think that Splatoon 2 doesn't have its own servers and in-software matchmaking that is unique to itself.
As long as any standard communication features are locked behind a freaking app AND a paywall, "lol nintendo" post are incredibly well deserved.
 
I just checked, managing friends does NOT require the subscription, so it must be handled in the console itself.

Though why you'd want to add friends if you can't play online or chat with them is beyond me.

the site mentions there is a free limited version of the app. so it might not be. I would hope it is still on the console. but we still don't know.
 
OK so there's basic multipayer in March, a "limited version" of the app in the Summer, and the full app in the Autumn/Fall when multiplayer goes subscription based.

Nintendo is so unprepared.
 
People are thinking if you go to play Mario Kart online, for example, you can't go online and find your friends to create a room to race in?? They think you need this app to do that??
 
The more I think about this and the specific things being locked behind the phone app, the more I think ppl here are overreacting.
 
Why couldn't you? Can you play with friends in Mario Kart? Mario Kart handles this stuff on its own, it doesn't need OS level integration.

That's the great thing about it, nobody knows!

Without the app? It doesn't appear so, but we don't know for sure yet.

Not until Fall when the app launches. Can't do it natively. It's what I'm getting from all this.

What a fucking shit show. Why is this console coming out in March?
 
What if the controller was built into an app on your cellphone?

What if the games came from your cellphone as well?

What if you used the screen on your cellphone too?

What if I don't buy the Nintendo Switch?

That's what I wrote several pages ago. Couldn't agree more.

Outside of Nintendo fans, they will struggle to gain market share back from mobile gaming. Requiring people to have their fucking smart phone to fully use the Switch online will not accomplish that. People will cut out the Switch, not their phone.
 
Not until Fall when the app launches. Can't do it natively. It's what I'm getting from all this.

You misunderstand. This is about the OS, games do their own matchmaking. Games cannot depend on an app on another device to do this, its a protocol and engineer nightmare because it'd be next to impossible to keep such a configuration synced to the servers.

Games will communicate with their own servers and do their own matchmaking as they always have done.
 
People are thinking if you go to play Mario Kart online, for example, you can't go online and find your friends to create a room to race in?? They think you need this app to do that??

That's basically what the wording suggests, yes.

You can play against randoms without the app though.
 
Bulky headsets. . If headsets are "bulky" what does that make the Switch itself exactly? Not that the Switch itself really us that bulky either but if headsets are, what's that make the Switch? Such terrible PR speak, when it's so easy to turn it against one of the main selling points of the product you want everyone to buy. What nonsense.
 
Man. The negativity in this thread is overwhelming. I'm not rushing to the defense of a companion app - I'm not that thrilled about it either - but *none* of us have tried it or have any idea what it will be like. I think our time on this forum is better spent talking about how this might become viable and what it could be like; rather than just wishing for an alternate reality where Nintendo decided to do things differently. (That might come off as whining to some people.)

Yes, as paying consumers we have a right to voice our opinions, but... Y'all don't know what you're talking about yet. None of us do. Let's see it in practice.
 
Let me preface this by saying that I'm not really a big online gamer, and I especially don't chat with people when I do play. That being said, and I'm fully aware that this isn't a popular opinion, but I actually like the app idea. Assuming it's on iOS, I have 3 different devices I can use for voice chat. As long as it works well, I'd much rather use my phone than have to buy a new expensive headphones that I don't own.

I dunno. I definitely understand the backlash, but I like the idea.
 
So, "lol Sony", "lol MS" and "lol Nintendo"?


Super Bomberman R has online multiplayer and it releases on launch with the system.

No somehow this is only unacceptable for nintendo.

Has anyone considered that you will still hear voice chat through the speakers you get game audio but your phone can act as a microphone? That seems pretty convenient actually.
 
No, he was referring to system (OS) wide party chat and lobbies. Nintendo's website suggests that's all this app is used for. Inside a game you will use the game's matchmaking software, which may or may not include your friends list.
Why does Reggie talk about matchmaking then?
 
Man. The negativity in this thread is overwhelming. I'm not rushing to the defense of a companion app - I'm not that thrilled about it either - but *none* of us have tried it or have any idea what it will be like. I think our time on this forum is better spent talking about how this might become viable and what it could be like; rather than just wishing for an alternate reality where Nintendo decided to do things differently. (That might come off as whining to some people.)

Yes, as paying consumers we have a right to voice our opinions, but... Y'all don't know what you're talking about yet. None of us do. Let's see it in practice.

Both PSN and xbox have apps that compliment what can be done on the console itself.

It should not be a requirement to need your phone to voice chat. It just shouldn't. That's no convenient or elegant. It's needless.
 
Man. The negativity in this thread is overwhelming. I'm not rushing to the defense of a companion app - I'm not that thrilled about it either - but *none* of us have tried it or have any idea what it will be like. I think our time on this forum is better spent talking about how this might become viable and what it could be like; rather than just wishing for an alternate reality where Nintendo decided to do things differently. (That might come off as whining to some people.)

Yes, as paying consumers we have a right to voice our opinions, but... Y'all don't know what you're talking about yet. None of us do. Let's see it in practice.

well then how can it be more viable than doing it on the system itself? I just don't understand.
 
No? Software will handle its own matchmaking with its own servers.

This is about lobbies in the OS, outside of game matchmaking with friends. You're not going to pipe software matchmaking to an app to then pipe that over your wifi to matchmake to then pipe back to the app and then back to the system to get into a game. This is pretty much impossible to keep synced.

See, and the reason why posters need to continually create replies like this is because of a completely asinine thread title from a poster who should know better. I dont give a shit about whatever phrasing Reggie may have used that happened to omit a couple of words, or give the wrong implication. We are gaf and we know better, or at least we should

Why does Reggie talk about matchmaking then?

he used it as a broad catch-all term, and yea he probably shouldnt have
 
People are thinking if you go to play Mario Kart online, for example, you can't go online and find your friends to create a room to race in?? They think you need this app to do that??
What Nintendo has said suggests you'll only be able to play with randoms without the app.
 
Let me preface this by saying that I'm not really a big online gamer, and I especially don't chat with people when I do play. That being said, and I'm fully aware that this isn't a popular opinion, but I actually like the app idea. Assuming it's on iOS, I have 3 different devices I can use for voice chat. As long as it works well, I'd much rather use my phone than have to buy a new expensive headphones that I don't own.

I dunno. I definitely understand the backlash, but I like the idea.

Why would you need to buy any expensive headphone if the earbuds that came with your iPhone would do the job the same way?

Sony bundles a crappy mono earbud with every ps4 and i'm sure that the vast majority of gamers use it.
 
That's basically what the wording suggests, yes.

You can play against randoms without the app though.

That's where I'm confused because I thought he's talking about party groups. Idk what to think anymore. Nintendo makes themselves look bad when they don't clarify.
 
No somehow this is only unacceptable for nintendo.

Has anyone considered that you will still hear voice chat through the speakers you get game audio but your phone can act as a microphone? That seems pretty convenient actually.

I'm sorry that actually sounds convoluted and dumb. Most headsets come with a microphone attached why would you want to have one sitting around not close to your face?
 
Status
Not open for further replies.
Top Bottom