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Reggie: Switch matchmaking and lobbies handled through phone app
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You live in a dream world.
It does have a headphone jack. We don't know how that will work with hearing voice yet, since the specifics of the way in which the audio will work have yet-to-be explained fully.
The idea, as far as we know, is that everything that is related to your friendslist in PSN/XBOXlive/steam is done through the app.
So invites, voice chat, forming parties ect.
Pressing "quick play" will work without the app.
Actually...
And I can't imagine many kids 10 and under being permitted to game online without supervision, so there's that.
Is this a market research for the whole world or just the US? Because if its just the US, this chart means shit.
ZombiePlatypus
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How does that make the idea of someone buying a dedicated gaming device in 2017 without the means to own or access a current, common smartphone a plausibly large and common scenario?
Likely scenario: You put Splatoon 2 in, you go into online, you find a match. No phone or anything needed. Your friend Spoonball messages you somewhere and wants to play. You will need to use a phone app to form a party with him online before you can be matched into a game together.
I posted my guess a couple of pages back.
My guess: Splatoon 2 without the smartphone app will work pretty much like Splatoon currently does on Wii U.
What you can actually do online functionality wise on a Switch without a phone is absolutely barebones. If they are charging you money for online play, it should be all included on the console it's self. The phone app should be 100 percent optional. If it was all free it might be a little less terrible.
but for the bolded part we have no confirmation yet if it's not somehow integrated in the OS and the app is optional. We've only confirmation for voice chat IIRC.
Dark Cloud
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Nintendo is purposely and forcing you to use this Switch app. I don't think it's just for voice chat and invites. I'm thinking this app will have more to it and they want people to get it for certain other reasons we don't know about. Maybe to just spread their branding, etc.
Aztechnology
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This is just so cumbersome and counter-intuitive. It's completely foolish.
My guess is the app is their foray into having their own mobile store/presence. They are hoping by forcing switch users to integrate with it first, then they can hook them into mobile Nintendo games and the like with crossover marketing. Also establish the app as highly downloaded/utilized app that will excite people.
Everything Nintendo seems to be doing is trying to use their player base to market and shill for them.
My guess is the app is their foray into having their own mobile store/presence. They are hoping by forcing switch users to integrate with it first, then they can hook them into mobile Nintendo games and the like with crossover marketing. Also establish the app as highly downloaded/utilized app that will excite people.
Everything Nintendo seems to be doing is trying to use their player base to market and shill for them.
orthodoxy1095
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Exactly what I meant.
What exactly about that is unrealistic? They could even use bluetooth, streaming audio is ancient technology and absolutely trivial to do with the technology they have at their disposal.
WhiteRabbitEXE
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This is not a thing that will happen.
Get out of here with that nonsense. Always online DRM had a direct impact on the monetary value of used games. It also had an impact on how you could play games that aren't online multiplayer.
This is trifle in comparison.
While that is a clear benefit it doesn't mean this should be mandatory.
geordiemp
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So you think this app will easily get bluetooth surround sound audio from the Switch, and allow you to mix the levels of your mic, game sound and chat sound effortlessly.
And then when your in a chat, you can invite a mate, and the server will send a message to the mates switch so he seamlessly joins the GAME and Chat.
My sides are hurting so much. The likely scenario is Nintendo have no clue, behind schedule and outsourced the app to a third party who already done a phone chat app with partys, but just did this as it was cheap and quick......and they can make Profits from charging so Kimishima can hit his Nintendo like profits promise. You know it to be likely.
This is a Nintendo device.
I dunno it seems like we do: http://www.nintendo.com/switch/online-service/
They specifically mention inviting friends to play in this section and nowhere else. The section header is "Online lobby and voice chat", not just voice chat. Online lobbies are parties. That seems like enough confirmation?
Aztechnology
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My guess is the app is their foray into having their own mobile store/presence. They are hoping by forcing switch users to integrate with it first, then they can hook them into mobile Nintendo games and the like with crossover marketing. Also establish the app as highly downloaded/utilized app that will excite people beyond the core Nintendo audience. But forcing something like this is just lame and cumbersome.
Everything Nintendo seems to be doing is trying to use their player base to market and shill for them.
drotahorror
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The background noise is going to be absurd if this is the only way for voice chat.
What does that mean? It has Bluetooth 4.1 and the latest wifi chipset.
MoogleWizard
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But ... why would they do that? Why make it so complicated instead of just having everything in the system OS?
OK, that sounds better. I hope this app is just for managing friends lists, messages and setting up games when you're not using the console. As long as you don't need the app while playing the game on the system, that would be fine. If you do need it however, that would be the dumbest thing Nintendo has done so far.
Imagine wanting to play an online match in Splatoon or Mario Kart and the game tells you to open the phone app ... just lol. There's no way they designed it that way.
Ollie Pooch
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I'm not aware that iOS even allows you to 'tether' a device to it that could pipe music to the phone/app. Is this even possible? The other way around perhaps but I'm almost 100% certain you can't 'pipe' audio from another device into your iPhone.
I think people are misrepresenting this - it's not a 'use your phone to tether your device to get online' it's 'Use your phone for all online matchmaking/chat functions that should be handled by the Switch OS in an app'.
And now? It could have a fluxcompensator build in, but Nintendo continues to show every day that they are incompetent as shit when it comes to good implementation of things. We are right at this moment in a thread that revolves about that you need to install a app on your fucking phone to have matchmaking and lobbies. Nintendo has not the brainpower for stuff like this. Their games are great, but everything else this company creates for OS-features is just batshit insane and stupid.
Dark Cloud
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Yeah. It'll tie in with a My Nintendo account and lead you to all their mobile games and advertisements of other games.
MoogleWizard
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Oh god, no... I personally don't care about voice chat but everything else should be integrated in the system OS.
lmao Nintendo, the Switch could really have save your ass, even non Nintendo fans had an interest for your machine after the first trailer but you'll never learn and killed any hype in less than one week, good job...
I think it's time for the direction and Reggie to step aside and let a new generation in, people that aren't blocked in the 80's, Nintendo need to delayed the Switch and make things right or it'll be worse than the Wii U, positive word of mouth can be amazing and free advertising but a negative one can destroy lives, you've been warned.
I think it's time for the direction and Reggie to step aside and let a new generation in, people that aren't blocked in the 80's, Nintendo need to delayed the Switch and make things right or it'll be worse than the Wii U, positive word of mouth can be amazing and free advertising but a negative one can destroy lives, you've been warned.
panda-zebra
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Is having these services separate from the console and its ecosystem a move made by Nintendo to allow them to essentially wash their hands a little and not have to worry about nannying the community to a level people would expect from a Nintendo device?
These kinds of services via an app on 3rd party hardware with minimal interaction with the console itself just seems awfully convenient (not for users, obviously).
These kinds of services via an app on 3rd party hardware with minimal interaction with the console itself just seems awfully convenient (not for users, obviously).
I love how people are like "Oh it's fine, Nintendo sucks when it comes to OS-features, it's a brilliant idea to outsource them" but forget that this whole shit needs to be synced to the console/game in some way or shape. Pretty confident this will be a huge clusterfuck given their trackrecord.
I've never ever run into a situation where I was thinking it would be so super beneficial and elegant to manage my game matchmaking on my phone. Who came up with this.
I've never ever run into a situation where I was thinking it would be so super beneficial and elegant to manage my game matchmaking on my phone. Who came up with this.
Dark Cloud
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Yes. That makes sense you can go online and play with people.
It's just you NEED the app to voice chat people online.
This sounds like pretty plausible, one might even call it "elegant".
The caveat is obviously that just because this is good for Nintendo doesn't mean it's a good solution for their customers.
You create a hotspot with your phone and connect your Switch. At that point you have a network connection and can do whatever you want, including piping an audio stream to your phone which you mix with voice chat.
I'm not saying that's how they'll do it, I'm just saying that's one of many ways they can mix game audio with voice chat. I find it far more unlikely that they're doing voice chat without game audio, that would render the entire thing pointless and I have a hard time believing they would even bother at that point.
First of all I don't think Android devices allow you to stream audio to the phone via bluetooth (someone correct me if that's wrong).
Also voice chat is also ancient technology by now and I don't see how constantly being linked to a 2nd device and streaming audio to it would be more beneficial on the battery than just plugging headphones in a controller.
The stuff about matchmaking through the phone app better not be true. It would make absolutely no sense why the console itself can't do that part. The 3DS had matchmaking. I played online games of mario kart and smash without having to go onto my mobile phone. I get where they're coming from using the phone app for voice chat. That I'm (somewhat) OK with but this would be far too stupid.
Literally no one is saying you can't play online at all without the app.
But you can't chat or use other basic friend features with out it.
Ollie Pooch
In a perfect world, we'd all be homersexual
Again, pretty sure iOS can't do this. Connecting to your phone's Wifi hotspot doesn't allow you to then stream Switch audio to the phone, or to a specific app or anything of the sort. It doesn't work that way and I think you're making stuff up here. Even if you could, it's a horribly convoluted 'solution' to a problem that doesn't really exist.
Mahonay, yes you're right. But see the other post by Caayn to show that they don't fully understand and believe the smartphone app is necessary for online play.
Annoying Old Party Man
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Is it possible that there is no other way around it cause these services would eat up too much memory, and they need it to be allocated to games?
SolVanderlyn
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Nintendophone confirmed.
This is really dumb. I want to say I'd just play online on PS4/PC anyway, but Switch is going to have Mario Kart.
Alex_Mexico
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I'm sorry but I don't think that's clear either. Reggie said matchmaking would be handled by the app as well, didn't he? If that's the case then the smartphone app will be mandatory for any online play.
Yep. Basically the app is to manage things wii u & 3ds never offered in the first place.
I guess I'm just glossing over those posts since it's been exexplained about 10 times over the past few pages.
The 360 and Vita have party chat.
WhiteRabbitEXE
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So now that we've stripped away the rest of your nonsense we've arrived at two claims:
1) No one buying a Switch doesn't have access to recent smart devices, a claim demonstrably disproven by the existence people in this thread and that, regardless, is negated by the fact that 100% of Switch owners will own Switches.
2) This is all unsubstantiated hot air despite Nintendo literally explaining the functionality exactly as everyone in this topic understands it.
Keeping in mind that this entire back and forth, featuring pages of text written by you, is about functionality that you claim to not care about and won't use. Huh.
Please. Stop.
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