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Reggie: Switch matchmaking and lobbies handled through phone app
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Even then: what would stop Nintendo from offering this app via the eShop? This is why I don't see any reason to be in maximum negativity mode.
Regarding some other comments: this is far from "botching the launch", they have enough time to present all the facts before March 3rd. The pre-order levels don't indicate a problem with their approach.
Their first step was to show off the USP of the device - they did that quite well. It's about the console and being able to play in three different settings. Different things will be unveiled later on, like it oftentimes happens with them. You just have to able to deal with not knowing for now.
I mean: if Nintendo wouldn't have mentioned online play or lobbies or voice-chat at all, people would have directly concluded that the device would not offer online capabilities at all. By now, it's just a side aspect of the console and the hand-on events won't focus on that either. So they've decided to outsource it to an Online Direct.
What we know so far: there is party voice chat, you can schedule gaming sessions and manage your friend list - this is a big step up from the WiiU and the 3DS. What we don't know are the details, but this will come at a later date.
MajinSweet4
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If Dark Souls does indeed come to the Switch, it looks like people will finally get to play them invasion free.
More reliable than what? What's the problem with being able to matchmake on your console? That was never a problem on any other console before...
I don't understand how some people in this thread try to twist this into something "good", if this was an optional app than sure, but the only way to be able to play online and voicechat? Just utter sheer incompetence from Nintendo.
But many kids nowadays have their own smart phones tho. Why not just have parental controls like any other console, instead of coming up with this moronic scheme to maybe have less kids play online? This is obtrusive and cumbersome for everyone, not just kids.
I'm not necessarily in favor of this, but Like it was quoted earlier, this app is slated for summer while the NS is coming outing 6 weeks. Do you guys really think that you will be unable to go online with the Switch until the app is out? I mean doesn't the Switch support 5GB WiFi?
Joycon has good battery life so charging not needed.
But does Nintendo give long enough cable to keep phone charged while lobbying & voice chatting thru phone?
Or does everybody have great battery in phone or short distance to power socket?
What happens when phone rings and you answer (miss call for example). Do you need to take new connection to voice chat, thanks to phone call?
But does Nintendo give long enough cable to keep phone charged while lobbying & voice chatting thru phone?
Or does everybody have great battery in phone or short distance to power socket?
What happens when phone rings and you answer (miss call for example). Do you need to take new connection to voice chat, thanks to phone call?
No. I think people might be overreacting to what very well could be a non-issue.
Dark Cloud
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Sometimes I wonder when Reggie goes home what does he talk about with his wife. He's seeing all this and he knows NCL directs him to say this and that. I'm sure Reggie would love to tell us all the details, but he can't.
So instead of developing and supporting one piece of hardware and OS, you end up having to support lots of different pieces of hardware and OSs and their variations. Yeah much more reliable.
SmokinGunZ1981
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I'm guessing that the initial launch will feature random match making and possibly no voice comms.
I'm praying I'm wrong though.
I play invasion free all the time. I just play offline.
"My body is ready!"
Would that not mean to remove features in mario kart 8 deluxe that were in mario kart 8?
I'm willing to bet it will all be available in the system, just they would rather you use the app becasue it might be easier and or do more. I could be wrong as well.
Osiris
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Dark Cloud
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This is what I want to know because the beta app doesn't come until summer. Nintendo is going to remove the ability to play with friends and create rooms in the game in favor of the app?
Makoto-Yuki
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this is just dumb. what are you thinking nintendo? not only do i need to pay for online access but also need to buy an app? forget it lol.
No there isn't. Unless you consider that the SNES had voice chat too since if smartphones had been a thing I would be able to use Discord while playing ?
Other things you mentioned have been done by Sony and Microsoft for years, both on the system and on a companion app.
What if the app relayed the sound through the Switch?
Again with this nonsense lmao. Not having basic online features such as voice chat or messaging your friends on a 2017 console is an issue, what are you on about ?
ClosingADoor
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I take it none of these things will work on my Windows Phone?
Sounds like a mess. Why not do all this on the console and give the phone as an option.
Sounds like a mess. Why not do all this on the console and give the phone as an option.
rochellepaws
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I don't think I've ever seen a gaming company with such a poor and confusing explanation of their product. Many details not explained, many more ambiguously coming through from various interviews and then being contradicted from other sources.
It launches in a few weeks, why on earth are they not explaining these things clearly? Am I expected to just keep checking various games news sites over the next few weeks in the hope that Reggie or someone else drops a few words in an interview about the UI, Store and Online strategy?
It launches in a few weeks, why on earth are they not explaining these things clearly? Am I expected to just keep checking various games news sites over the next few weeks in the hope that Reggie or someone else drops a few words in an interview about the UI, Store and Online strategy?
no way there isn't audio desync if it even worked that way. It's also still stupid as it would require my phone
Then why not just relay voice chat through the Switch in the first place?
The ones who make these decisions at NOJ are out of touch, couple that with some incompetence en not being able to read the western market correctly.
Voice chat and online lobbies (as in with your friends) it won't. Of course you'll be able to play with randoms on MK like it was on Wii U.
We don't know if it supports Bluetooth headsets but I'm not expecting it.
SmokinGunZ1981
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I honestly have no idea, and this is part of the reason I may well be cancelling my pre-order if this isn't clarified by the week before launch.
At the moment it just feels like PR is all over the place, when they announced that they intended to charge for online I think they should have announced exactly what we would be getting for that charge and not wait until later.
I doubt it. My thinking is the Switch will have what you need to play online minus the chat. The app will have the same functionality but with the voice chat and more, most likely social media integration. Someone else posted earlier this could be a possibility so your friends could see you playing the Switch so that word of mouth got around that way.
Again I could be wrong, but I highly doubt it will be impossible to play online games until the app is released 3-6 months after the system comes out. Especially when there will be online games released in between.
Dark Cloud
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Then why does the Switch have Bluetooth?
Controllers.
Does speakerphone mode even work that well? I mean I dont use it but does it work that well from that distance. I've seen people walking around using speakerphone with the phone near to their face, I dont understand that, I guess they want everyone to hear their conversation, but are phone mics that good they can pick up and isolate you voice from that far away(beside you on the sofa)?
Wouldn't their voice be hard to hear over the TV audio as there's no proper mixing like a headset would have. And what if you have more than one person talking how would you know who it was? I dont see how its going to work and I dont see anyone using it for long.
That's the problem. If they are really making the same app for Switch, then they should've started with that "DETAIL". I'm pretty sure that's not the case though because it's Nintendo. they are just too far up their ass, extremely ignorant and arrogant to realize that they are in the wrong here.
They will force the smartphone, Switch combo and none of the Nintenboys will complain about it
Ollie Pooch
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Ok, apologies for misunderstanding. Not wilfully so, just pretty sure its not an option. We'll see.
I do think having to connect to the same wifi network just to get game audio - to a smartphone app - would be incredibly silly (if that is what theyve chosen) but that's on them. Interesting to see the real outcome.
GrayDock
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I can see the phone app being an option while you're playing in docked mode, and even at tabletop mode, only because the joy-cons/pro-controller doesn't have a phone jack. By the way why the joycons/pro-controller doesn't have the jack is beyond me...
But the Switch should have the same app to use while you're playing it in handheld mode. There's no excuse for that.
Again it seems it's a rushed launch because of the terrible WiiU situation.
By the holidays the Switch will be another machine, with the built in chat app, netflix, browser, youtube, etc.
But the Switch should have the same app to use while you're playing it in handheld mode. There's no excuse for that.
Again it seems it's a rushed launch because of the terrible WiiU situation.
By the holidays the Switch will be another machine, with the built in chat app, netflix, browser, youtube, etc.
So these Zelda themed earbuds offer 'chat' functionality:
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01N9R7HEU/?tag=neogaf0e-20
With no mention of plugging into a phone?. Nintendo could do with another stream to cover all of the questions people have.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01N9R7HEU/?tag=neogaf0e-20
With no mention of plugging into a phone?. Nintendo could do with another stream to cover all of the questions people have.
geordiemp
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Nobody knows, if Swicth cant do these things its because either
1. 2 contacts in head set connection - 4 needed for earpiece and mic. That would be a major fuck up
2. No CPU headroom to run party chat, OS, streaming sounds etc when running Game . But Xbox 360 managed it easily lol
Who knows, seems suspicious. More likely they are just behind schedule and offloaded to 3rd party.
RobotMoses
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Do we know if he means ALL matchmaking and not just the option to use the app as well? I find it hard to believe they would make you start Mario Kart > Online > "Please open your Nintendo Online App" > Syncing > Okay! > Matchmaking (look at your phone).
If it's all matchmaking, it's definitely an issue.
If it's all matchmaking, it's definitely an issue.
What I mean is, I think there's a very good chance that they're just going to be pushing this app really hard when it will all still be available in the system, OR it's not going to be nearly as cumbersome as we think it is. Point is, we just don't have enough info.
Vampirolol
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Just like I always did on PS3 and PS4. Offline Dark Souls is best Dark Souls.
Dark Cloud
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Well it would feel so weird to plug that into a phone. I'd rather the voice chat come through the Switch to plug it into there.
test_account
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I think its a chance that Nintendo might change this. Microsoft did it with Xbox One after all, changed the whole online requirement stuff. For Nintendo, maybe it wont change at launch, but maybe in 6 months or so?
Godammit. Announce a Switch Direct like today.
Also, if I used earbuds, I'd really dig those.
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