Prof. Bathtub
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If it has windmills and red roofs, the devs may have called it Kakariko Village. Though I don't think the name itself necessarily has story significance beyond similarities to prior towns.
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Zelda: Breath of the Wild: Launch trailer, JP boxart, March 3, 2017
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If it has windmills and red roofs, the devs may have called it Kakariko Village. Though I don't think the name itself necessarily has story significance beyond similarities to prior towns.
theSlacker
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I kinda hope its the first option. Not the biggest fan of armor just for vanity and like it when it means something other then "this looks good".
On the other hand I don't want the green tunic being a hidden super armor that is just better then everything at the end since I've really liked how they have been able to move away from the iconic wear. Making the normal wear of Link something special because of it's "iconic" design stifles what they can do design wise. Like the Hyrule shield in Skyward Sword, or even the Master Sword in general. In some games they weren't even the "best" sword and shield you could get, even if the Master Sword was required for certain things, but recently you know that they are the endgame.
Interesting observation. The 4 along the top half are orientated like the ones we have seen in the videos while the other ones are in places that if rotated would be hidden behind the castle/other pillars from the perspective that I've seen. I do think it is just a coincidence, and the kind of thing that if I hope for I'm setting myself up for disappointment, but still an interested observation. Hiding relevant information right in your face as well as cryptic symbols/designs actually meaning something is the kind of world building that I love.
WordAssassin
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So is, uh, is all of this fully explorable? Like that little island in the bottom right too? The largest "open world" game I've ever played is probably GTA3 or Vice City (I don't count Minecraft) so I am having trouble really comprehending how big this game is.
I wonder what kind of invisible barriers will blow off the top and left-hand sides of the map.
Tell me about it. The fact that my gaming has been on ice for almost six months and I've collected all there is in Super Mario Run isn't helping either. Almost a feverish feeling.
OK, I'm not picking on you, so please forgive me if it seems as if I am. But there are at least 5 pillars surrounding Hyrule Castle. I've seen the fifth in the videos, though it's hard to get a clean shot. So I've used the artwork they released a few days ago.
Again, I don't mean to seem like I'm singling you out. Plenty people are still saying that since there are only 4 pillars, then there must only be four dungeons. There may still only be 4 dungeons, but if so, it has nothing to do with the number of pillars.
EDIT: I see someone else already pointed this out to you, so ignore my comments and just use the image as a visual reference. Thanks.
Prof. Bathtub
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I'd say more fully explorable than some other open-world games, given the climbing and gliding mechanics afford a bit more three-dimensional traversal. That island seems to have been there since the '14 demonstration, and given the raft we've seen, I don't see why it wouldn't be accessible.
Now, I actually don't think the size is too mind-bogglingly big, since we're able to pinpoint most of the areas going from footage. I don't know how fast the horses are, but if the whole map was level, I don't think it would take very long to completely travel. But nevertheless, it seems to be varied and detail-oriented, so there will be plenty to do.
10-15 shrines look about equivalent to 1 traditional dungeon to me, in terms of content. That, combined with 4 traditional dungeons, would easily give BOTW more "dungeon-like" content than any other 3d zelda
theSlacker
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As someone who is okay if it is just 4 dungeons, I don't think you can equate shrines to dungeons like that. Some of the appeal of dungeons in the past are them being a themed area that is all one thing, and something different from the rest of the areas of the game.
Very true. Still very excited for the game and already have it preordered. Unfortunately I was not able to get either of the collectors editions. But thats ok, the only thing I really kind of wanted was the cloth map.
Has anyone else heard anything on the guides for the game?
The last I heard, there are going to be three different strategy guides from Piggyback. A deluxe, collector and normal edition. Both the deluxe and collector editions are going to be hardcover. Not really sure what the difference will be, besides artwork on the covers. The deluxe and collector editions appear to be thicker (more info).
I like to collect guides as is, but the deluxe looks like a definite for me.
dampflokfreund
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What's this?
Yeah, the big thing about the shrines, and probably the reason they're capable of making so many, is that they (presumably) share the same assets. There's always a tradeoff...
What's this?
Context?
WordAssassin
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Are there any size comparisons out there to other games to get an idea how big the map is? I mean I'm not expecting it to take hours or days to walk from one end of the map to the other but do we know if it's like bigger than GTA3, or Twilight Princess, or Skyward Sword? (Never played SS and only played part of TP though)
Graphics Horse
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The magic elevator style of them gives them a lot of flexibility too, could swap shrines around at the last minute if they wanted to without having to change anything in the overworld.
Milly Osworth
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Damnit I havent been so hyped for a Zelda game before. Probably because Wow meets Zelda in Botw.
Was wondering if this could be a dungeon entrance, considering Shrine entrances look similar:
And this could be inside a dungeon:
I'm guessing those are both the inside of one of the Divine Beasts, with the top image being it's 'brain'.
Prof. Bathtub
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Someone posted this earlier on the in the thread. Not sure how accurate it is, but it'll give you an idea.
Also Death Mountain creature:
Also this one:
The bird is obvious so the only one missing is:
Since all of these mechanical creatures seem quite large, I think it's likely that they themselves are the dungeons, meaning it takes place inside of them.
which seems to be one of the 4 creatures on the map:
Also this one:
can also be seen on the map:
The bird is obvious so the only one missing is:
Since all of these mechanical creatures seem quite large, I think it's likely that they themselves are the dungeons, meaning it takes place inside of them.
This is fairly accurate I believe at least for BotW, Skyrim and WW give or take a bit. Though the calculations for BotW might be off as I was reading the Reddit thread where this was all calculated and it seem fairly possible that the height they used for Link was slightly off and map could be as large as 82 Sq km and not the 62 Sq km they use in that image. So that would be an increase of about 32%, which would make it like just under 2x the size of Skyrim's map and like 70% larger than The Witcher 3's combined maps.
It's a big freaking game no matter what.
That seems wrong, at least the WW comparison. We've seen botw's lake hylia, and no way is it a fourth the size of the great sea.Someone posted this earlier on the in the thread. Not sure how accurate it is, but it'll give you an idea.
Is he using character height as the metric of comparison? Because WW link is much shorter than botw link
Here is the Reddit post that calculated the size of BotW.
https://www.reddit.com/r/truezelda/..._from_rbreath_of_the_wild_analyzing_botw_map/
John Petrucci
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Random question...Has anyone talked about how Zelda hasn't aged in 100 years either? She must've been in a similar cryo/healing state or under some anti aging spell all this time or at least a good amount of this time, right? I haven't seen anyone talk about this. I guess it would all be a speculation at this point since it doesn't seem we've gotten a single hint about it from the trailers.
Skittzo0413
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Who says she hasn't aged? I personally think all of the "young" Zelda images we've seen are from past memories and Zelda in the present is an old woman. The "open your eyes" line sounds quite different from the rest of Zelda's dialogue.
John Petrucci
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It seems we've seen shots of her in the past and in the present. A lot of theory videos on YT seem to suggest this. That's pretty impressive for 100 years if she's aged!
I suppose all the scenes with her could be from the past so far. It's just that several theorists seemed to think we've seen her in both the past and present in that recent trailer so I just kind of accepted it. Who knows.
More than likely they are all in the past. Though I do hope that's not the case. It would be really interesting to see what they could do in an open world game like this with Zelda as a companion of ours in the present.
You can't miss what you never had. BotW wont have any gamepad functionality.
She is hylia in mortal form surely she can use her power of wisdom to prevent her from getting any older.
Daphnes from Wind Waker still lived, and if the old man is the king too in this game he probably did the same. So i guess the bloodline related to Hylia can live longer if needed in grave situations that are a danger to hyrule.
She probably was in stasis like Link
John Petrucci
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I believe one thing that suggests she's been seen in the past and present is that there are both scenes where she has the Sheikah Slate and Link does not, and also scenes where Link now has the Sheikah Slate and she doesn't.
Just going off memory there from the many analysis videos I've seen, could be wrong.
This sounds right to me
Forgot that Zelda herself was wielding some pretty crazy looking magic to try and save Link from that Guardian. Who knows what she's capable of in this game.The botw map looks fine then. I think it's the WW map that's messed up. The plateau is clearly not half as wide as ww's entire ocean.
The Tp map there should probably be scaled up a little bit, since Nintendo themselves said botw's map is 12 times bigger.
Deckard Chapel
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Nintendo should just come out and say how big the map is - at least something like "Compared to this or this, it's considerably larger" or "This is one the largest game worlds ever created" - something like that.
Letting the people on forums debate on this forever is a better strategy.
theSlacker
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Same, but for those my mind was seeing what it wanted to and I've tried to avoid that here. Like for SS I saw WW2, but in the sky, with the same kind of seamlessness and exploration of the great sea but with flying. Clearly it's not what it gave. It's only the last trailer for this that has gotten me super hyped about things I don't know and I'm trying to contain it.
Lord Ghirahim
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I just realized that
the Goron in the trailer is dead. Onibi.
FloweryMarston
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They already compared with TP. But i honestly don't think raw game size is important. It's the way they use that space and BOTW is doing that right
Onikaan
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What makes you think that?
Admiral Woofington
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yeah I need to play something in the meantime. Maybe I'll replay Windwaker HD or Twilight Princess HD in the meantime.
Lord Ghirahim
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Same. I just beat Paper Mario: Color Splash. I can't decide if I should do The Last of Us or Uncharted 3 next.
Deckard Chapel
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Do you have a link to that?
Admiral Woofington
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actually I am ashamed to admit it but as a kid I never played Majora's Mask and I bought it with my Majora's Mask N3DS. But I never played it. So might as well.
If anything I think a Skyward Sword HD will be more likely.
Deckard Chapel
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What are some good movies to watch that are similar to The Legend of Zelda?
I don't have a link to it, it was in the past
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