Wonder Woman Is a Disjointed Disaster (Says DC Insider)
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Gordon Shumway
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They just get rebooted
Truth.True measure of succes are memes. I agree.
DCEU and MCU combined don't have shit on Nolan.
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Lord Virgin
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I can get why people don't like BvS/MoS. I also understand if you like AoU (hell, I do). You like Thor 2? Good for you man.
How anyone can like Suicide Squad is still the greatest mystery ever. Fuck that movie. Damn you Ayer.
How anyone can like Suicide Squad is still the greatest mystery ever. Fuck that movie. Damn you Ayer.
Breakfast at Noon
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BvS has a lot.. a LOT of issues but not no where near as shit as SS.
BvS has a load of issues but I still fully enjoy it as well as Thor 2 it "entertained me" but SS is pure shite, I gave it a second chance for the extended edition but it was just as shit, hell it was worse.
Gordon Shumway
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Yeah. Even the extra Joker stuff somehow made me like it less, and I thought that was impossible. I have my issues with BvS, which the uncut version made a little better (while simultaneously making me question WHY they cut out some stuff), but SS was just..what?
Breakfast at Noon
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Did the extra dancing not make it more fun?
I can't recall the Jokers extended scenes as he was just so forgettable.
Gordon Shumway
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Are we talking Ghostbusters? 😝
Messofanego
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What or who is the most interesting part?
Gordon Shumway
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Lord Virgin
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Question....would you die for me.....? *heavy breathing*
Too easy, would you.....would you live for me?
Too answer that i have to explain my problems with Joker. DC refuses to define Joker, to show why he does what he does, and what he wants. Then they come up with stupid shit like the joker virus, or joker being an ancient evil or whatever.
Black Mask is cool, Anarky, ra's al ghul, Lady Shiva, and Bane.
Not that good but I love them anyway The Mudpack, and Killer Moth
He was doing a bad imitation of The Mask
I actually like that about the character. We follow Batman's exploits, and the Joker is as much of a mystery to him as Batman is a mystery to everyone outside of the Bat-Family. So, like people questioning if Batman is even human, you have the same thing ocurring with the Joker. I think the vagueness is more interesting - I even find the recent '3 Jokers' idea in the comics interesting, because Batman is a role that has been assumed by multiple people, so why couldn't the Joker be the same thing?
It makes for a better parallel between the characters, I think.
Kibbles
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SS is infinitely better than that snoozefest
That didn't explain how she knows what's happening in a battle taking place in a completely different part of the city that she hasn't been a part of, which is the complaint that I brought up.
Gordon Shumway
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This is what they intended but 2 problems: 1. A minute before "Martha" Bruce verbally acknowledges Clark has parents and proceeds to tell him he doesn't give a shit, 2. Batman has been running around killing normal dudes with mommies up until this point and doesn't care. Seconds away from accomplishing his goal only to stop because a common name was mentioned is stupid on its own, with the above I don't see why people try and argue it. It was obvious what they wanted with the heavy handed flashbacks throughout the movie, just falls flat due to poor writing. There is a similar fuck up in mos when Clark screams at the end.
That entire showdown has a whole host of problems: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SsGpdzHTXtg, Martha is just the easiest thing to shit on it for.
shira
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You either get locked by Modbot or you live long enough to get transferred to OT Community
Tatsumaki Senpuukyaku!
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Well suicide squad did have dynamic action scenes such as:
Suicide squad fighting the putty on a street
Suicide squad fighting the putty in an office
Suicide squad fighting a villain made out of 90s CG
It's wierd that people felt the need to actually do a video breakdown to show that Superman could have easily said something about Martha before.
People have argued that Batman kept interrupting him or that he didn't get a chance, but Superman kept putting in filler sentences in there instead of just flat out saying what the problem was. Instead of "I was wrong" or "Bruce!...You don't understand...." just say "They have my mom"
It's almost comedic, the dialogue. Superman is trying to talk Batman down, but he literally seems to struggle to get the sentences out AND he's escalating the fight by assaulting Batman while he's doing it. It's like Superman's character is literally trying to break free from the script, but Snyder's writing is forcing him to fight Batman against his will.
inb4bleepey brings out a flow chart of the dialogue or some shit
She saw that a lot of power was being drawn from all parts of the city except where the kryptonian ship was being held. She saw Doomsday come out of the area. She saw Doomsday use his eye beams
Nah... BvS has a LOT of fucking problems, but it atleast attempted to tackle some interesting ideas and had acouple cool sequences. Even if it turned out to be a real fucking mess.
Suicide Squad is nonsensical, ugly, pointless, and so fucking try-hard that it fails to achieve any single thing it sets out to do.
Doomshroom
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Why did Harley leave the group to take a lonly elevator trip just to meet up with everyone when it stops?
And how did they get there that fast?
It isn't even "proper fanboyism". It's just tribialism at its purest state. People wanting for their side to win over the other (In this case the MCU) by defending this movies at all cost. That cost of course includes character development, coherent plot, pacing and editing, overall tone of the movie, etc.
A "proper" DC fanboy would probably be more concerned about how their beloved characters are being portrayed and the stories being told in this big blockbusters. They would be concerned about how the DCEU deviates from the identity and core of these superheroes, but apparently these new fanboys are more concerned about how cool some action scenes look and the kick ass soundtrack so they take WB's direction as the right one when it comes to superheroes movies.
At the end, you get what you get. Murderman, Superman being more insecure than a teenager, an autistic lex, Critical panning, suboptimal box office performances and a bunch of people saying that everyone is against DC movies.
That's actually hilarious.
If it were Superboy or Deadpool, they could have actually done it.
Dash_Riprock
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This is really the only meaningful debate regarding the DCEU: Arguing over which movie sucks more.
For the record, I despise SS only slightly less cause at the very leas it didn't put me to sleep.
It's a conspiracy. They hate us cuz they ain't us. They just love the bubblegum drivel that is the Marvel movies. Audiences don't want substance, they just want to turn their brain off. They aren't used to turning their brains on for a comic book movie.
There is a 95% chance at least 10 posters on this forum have said this
Gordon Shumway
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Man of Steel is the best Superman movie so that isn't a surprise
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Lord Virgin
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Yeah well whatevz, Wonder Woman gonna save th- (reads thread title)
Fuck yall, Justice League will be the one! Snyder knows waddup.
Fuck yall, Justice League will be the one! Snyder knows waddup.
I've seen them all as well and liked the action a lot in MOS!!!=p
Messofanego
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Bleepey, can you link me to your 10,000 word piece on why Batman vs Superman is the best superhero movie ever made?
Jason's Ultimatum
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You must not be afraid to dream a little bigger, darling.
10,000? Try 50,000
I have his PowerPoint presentation and his TEDTalk, want me to send you a link?
Gordon Shumway
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I would but my 100,000 word thesis is a thesis to big for little minds.
I just used that..TOO SOON!! 😠
Gordon Shumway
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