For those who refuse to game on a PC, what holds you back?

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Keyboard and mouse
Cost
All my friends play on consoles
Everyone is at the same playing level on consoles (same fps, graphics)
No couch
No Halo, Uncharted and other exclusives
 
Walking into a store and just picking up a console versus my lazy butt doing that.

I completely understand. I like that website because it can give someone an overview of parts and their price range/performance. As far as ease of use I would say going through that initial hard stage is worth playing every 3rd party game at 60fps. I had my second PC built at microcenter because I didn't want the hassle and stress of another build. I also have the option of connecting my PC with an hdmi cable to my tv where I play with a wireless xbox one controller. I will say, if you ever decide you want to give it a shot, there will always be tons of people willing to help you out picking parts that match your budget.
 
Another thing that holds me back sometimes is the urge to play on a big screen. I just get tired of sitting at my desk all the time. I have tried hooking my computer up to the TV but I couldn't get the picture quality to be ideal.

I haven't heard the most positive things about Steam link either but maybe that has changed?
 
Cost, ease of use, and exclusives.

I don't know how PC only players survive on just 3rd party content. I know it comes down to taste, but I was raised on a diet of PlayStation exclusives like Wipeout, Gran Turismo, Uncharted, Ridge Racer, Jak and Daxter.

Then there's Nintendo exclusives.

Plus I want to game on my sofa with a controller..and not worry about upgrading this or that. I feel like you'd always be worried about what to upgrade next in a never ending hardware cycle if you had a PC. No thanks.

We have plenty of companies that develop for PC only. They don't need to be tied to one platform for a game to be good. I don't even know why this is an arguing point against PC lol
 
I completely understand. I like that website because it can give someone an overview of parts and their price range/performance. As far as ease of use I would say going through that initial hard stage is worth playing every 3rd party game at 60fps. I had my second PC built at microcenter because I didn't want the hassle and stress of another build. I also have the option of connecting my PC with an hdmi cable to my tv where I play with a wireless xbox one controller. I will say, if you ever decide you want to give it a shot, there will always be tons of people willing to help you out picking parts that match your budget.

I inevitably will grab one special gaming PC in the future, because I want to play ALL the games, but at this moment, I'm just not in that mindset or place to do so. I can game on my current PC right now but definitely want to upgrade it when I'm ready. Using that website and gaf as resources too.
 
Another thing that holds me back sometimes is the urge to play on a big screen. I just get tired of sitting at my desk all the time. I have tried hooking my computer up to the TV but I couldn't get the picture quality to be ideal.

I haven't heard the most positive things about Steam link either but maybe that has changed?

If you go wired it's pretty much flawless. I can admit to that. I haven't messed with wireless any though and I heard that's where they can get a little weird.
 
Lol i apologize but this thread is getting so far fetched now I don't even have words. You're making it seem like adjusting settings requires the time one would invest in an MMO and being married and having kids allows for no time to simply select a few settings lol what?

I'm married and believe me I've never had to put off anything in life due to adjusting some settings lol

You know that's bullshit. You're trying tell me you haven't screwed around with overclocking, temperature/fan settings, and all of the other things that come with getting the most out of your PC?

Like I said, I used to enjoy gaming on the PC when I had a lot less responsibilities in my life. Every minute is crucial when you're trying to balance family, work, and hitting the gym.

Enjoy your free time though. I look back to when I was married with no kids and laugh at how much time I thought being a husband took up.
 
Because it's far too often seen that people ignore the existence of PC exclusives because they aren't your typical console AAA shooter or AAA game in general therefore they don't count.

You're right though, it probably shouldn't be questioned.

Well I think it is right to call it out if there is a blatant narrative of a person simply having never attempted to try any, yet proceeding to decree them all terrible. But if someone has taken their time to work out its not for them, obviously good for them.
 
I've been on PC since 2011 and I can't comprehend why people think you have to tinker with settings and drivers. Maybe if you're playing ancient games on PC? I can see how that'd be tricky. But there are people here saying that you have to struggle with drivers and settings for all games, and that's a lie. I don't even remember when I last a problem with drivers, definitely hasn't happened on my current PC at least.

I mentioned that as my reason. Our family had a pc early on and I have gamed (and tried to game) on several different pc setups before 2011 but not since because I have no urge to. I'm the one who solves family pc problems but I'm not interested in pc gaming.

If things have improved dramatically recently I wouldn't know, so I guess you can blame first (and second and third) impressions for my lack of interest.
 
- I mostly like Japanese games, which tend to come out first or exclusively on Consoles. I also like Nintendo.

- While PC gaming is easier than ever, it is still even easier to plug in a console

- I sit at a desk in front of a computer all day so the last thing I want to do is come home and continue sitting in front of a computer at a desk. I know there are options, I have a steam link that works fine, but it even has issues compared to just playing consoles.

I do play PC games, but mostly just Civ and Starcraft.
 
I inevitably will grab one special gaming PC in the future, because I want to play ALL the games, but at this moment, I'm just not in that mindset or place to do so. I can game on my current PC right now but definitely want to upgrade it when I'm ready. Using that website and gaf as resources too.

One thing I would consider investing in for that future upgrade is any monitor that goes above 60hz. High refresh rate makes a world of difference in enjoying games.
 
I like the console ecosystem without the pissing around.

I used to pc game, started on a 486 back in the Wolfenstein years, and certainly enjoyed pc gaming considerable (along with the messing around editing autoexec.bat\config.sys and running memory managers like QEMM).

These days the xbox ecosystem has me sold, and just prefer knowing that I'm playing on an absolute level hardware with everyone else when I am competitive gaming.
 
You know that's bullshit. You're trying tell me you haven't screwed around with overclocking, temperature/fan settings, and all of the other things that come with getting the most out of your PC?

Like I said, I used to enjoy gaming on the PC when I had a lot less responsibilities in my life. Every minute is crucial when you're trying to balance family, work, and hitting the gym.

Enjoy your free time though. I look back to when I was married with no kids and laugh at how much time I thought being a husband took up.


Not really, with new gpus you don't need to overclock and even when I do... I open precision and bump a few numbers and hit apply, done in minutes.

All that stuff is meant for the enthusiasts who want to do that sort of stuff, it is by no means required to game on a Pc.
 
Well I think it is right to call it out if there is a blatant narrative of a person simply having never attempted to try any, yet proceeding to decree them all terrible.

Particularly where you have the situation when things like a Magicka sequel or a Day Of The Tentacle remake get pride of place at a platform owners press conference, and suddenly that's an amazing win
 
Cost, convenience, controls, lack of japanese games and lack of interest in PC genres like MOBAs, FPSs and online competitive games in general. Plus I value style over graphics. Wind Waker will always look a hundred times prettier than Battlefield One in my eyes.

I'm much happier with my Sony / Nintendo combo.

Sums up my reasons to a T. I'll only add one more thing:

Naughty Dog.

PC gaming in Mexico is just too inconvenient, expensive (not so much the games, but the rig), and cumbersome. Add to that the cheaters, non-parity of gaming rigs in the few competitive games I'll play, and my frustration with a keyboard and mouse to play games (which would leave me in a disadvantage if I play with a controller) and I'm happy with a PS4 and maybe a Switch.
 
More than anything else PC gaming has a messaging problem. There's no one company cheerleading for it. Valve has gone a long way towards making things easier on the software end, but the hardware end is still a ton of companies always pushing their own things which probably makes all that stuff more complicated than it is (I'm not saying it's as easy as setting up a console).

Cost, ease of use, and exclusives.

I don't know how PC only players survive on just 3rd party content. I know it comes down to taste, but I was raised on a diet of PlayStation exclusives like Wipeout, Gran Turismo, Uncharted, Ridge Racer, Jak and Daxter.

Then there's Nintendo exclusives.

Plus I want to game on my sofa with a controller..and not worry about upgrading this or that. I feel like you'd always be worried about what to upgrade next in a never ending hardware cycle if you had a PC. No thanks.

Edit: I also don't understand AT All the people who spend thousands on a really high end graphics machine...and then play it on a tiny 22" monitor. Like, what?! I game on a 55 inch TV and I wouldn't dream of using a monitor. Ever.

I just don't care as much about Sony's and Microsoft's first party games. Nintendo? Totally. Well, to be fair I did get a PS4 with Uncharted 4, but there's more than enough to play on PC, and a lot of it is exclusive. I couldn't even tell you how much time I spent on Arma 3 mods last year. Civ? Sheeeeeit. Whole communities exist around DOTA and LoL. The main difference with PC exclusives is they don't have monolithic companies pumping as much money and marketing into them. And PC is still pretty much where the most good indie games show up first. Many people's 2015 game of the year, Undertale, still hasn't come out on any console.

Oh and those games I mentioned don't really require a $1000 PC to run.
 
I play a bunch on PC but if the game is on PS3/PS4 and graphically the same I still go for the PS version. It's a feeling of playing on PS...

When gaming on a PC I also sit in my lazy boy with an Xbox/PS4 controller, no idea why people say it's difficult lol.
 
You were the one who said that one of the reasons why the ports weren't done was because some of the games were too old/not worth the effort. I was agreeing with you. Your whole economics set of arguments are self defeating. If the games would sell on the consoles, then it would be economical to port. If they won't sell, console gamers don't care about them, so the fact that they aren't ported has no impact.

To sum up, you listed many games that console gamers would not buy as a reason why console gamers should be upset that they can't buy them. I can't buy diarrhea flavored ice cream, but I'm not upset that either.

I could be here all day discussing this and listing games, but it is a waste of time if you want to be so obtuse about it, with a predefined notion of what a console game is. You have people ranting and raving about games like Shadow Tactics and Divinity, yet their many counter parts have never made the switch, before or after. You may not care, but not all console gamers are the same just as on PC. You can buy diarrhea flavored ice cream on consoles right now, but you do clearly get personally upset at the notion that others found you just scribbled that on the label and it was just strawberry

Particularly where you have the situation when things like a Magicka sequel or a Day Of The Tentacle remake get pride of place at a platform owners press conference, and suddenly that's an amazing win

This is the other notion I find pathetic - that this is about sides and "winning" over x platform. It's games - they should be in as many places as possible anyway and celebrated for what they are, not a numberwang list to fuel platform warring. Just as is the pathetic 180s on particular games being crap till platform holder markets their own version
 
Cost, ease of use, and exclusives.

I don't know how PC only players survive on just 3rd party content. I know it comes down to taste, but I was raised on a diet of PlayStation exclusives like Wipeout, Gran Turismo, Uncharted, Ridge Racer, Jak and Daxter.

ummmm, there seems to be some misinformation here. As was said, PC has more exclusives than the entire libraries of al the playstations that ever were, combined. You dont survive on third party on PC. You must also forget that PC invented most genres, rpg, fps, rts, tbs, simulator games, mmo's, tactical games, stealth games, adventure games. On most of these you had at least a decade of complete PC dominance until consoles mustered the juice to adapt them for their limited and shitty controllers.

For example, you have about 15 years of first person shooter history that was mostly exclusive to PC, with ocasional vastly inferior console adaptations, until the genre started moving faster on the console front
 
The pc owners complaining about people mentioning the time commitment of pc use are missing the big picture. It isn't that people are saying that using a PC takes up an hour every day setting up etc. It's that having to spend any time messing with settings and compatability is too much.

With ps4:
Buy console
Connect to Internet
Update firmware (15 minutes at most)
Install game disc (2 minutes at most)
Maybe Update game (no longer than 1/1.5 hours for the biggest of patches)
Play

That's it, I have never had to mess around with settings, drivers, compatability issues, update parts or anything else. It just works and nothing is going to change that.

Now pc does do some of this of course but it is in no way as seamless and has extra steps that just shouldn't be there when you want to just get in and play.

Anyone who disagrees with these facts (other than my preference that these extra steps shouldn't be there) is just being disingenuous.

Pc of course has benefits over console but for me and many more millions of people consoles perform good enough and provide pretty much everything you need while being simpler to use.
 
Games are the only reason I enjoy any platform and PC marketplaces simply don't have a lot of what I want. I buy every console I can to play great games, I do occasionally play on PC but there are few games as great as Bloodborne and Mario Kart 8 for my personal tastes. First party games are my preferred purchases, PC is great for multiplats and Indies but I like collecting physical games so I even get those on consoles, I love physical indie games.
 
You know that's bullshit. You're trying tell me you haven't screwed around with overclocking, temperature/fan settings, and all of the other things that come with getting the most out of your PC?

Like I said, I used to enjoy gaming on the PC when I had a lot less responsibilities in my life. Every minute is crucial when you're trying to balance family, work, and hitting the gym.

Enjoy your free time though. I look back to when I was married with no kids and laugh at how much time I thought being a husband took up.

You described my thoughts exactly. I'd rather not have to jack around with making things work when I actually have time to sit down and enjoy a game.

Case in point, and call me an idiot if you want, but I bought a Raspeberry Pi for emulation and followed a Lifehacker guide to set it up. Thought it would be fun as I haven't done anything gaming related with a PC in years. Ran into issues with wifi and Bluetooth and spent way more time on it than I wanted to. I don't know Linux and don't care to because that was literally the first time I had need for that knowledge in ten years.

I used to enjoy messing around with things like that, until my time became way more valuable. Now I want to plug in the device and I want it to work, and I'm willing to pay for that. And I'm not willing to put up with the headaches of getting things to run at max settings with acceptable performance for my hardware, and then repeating that trial and error process for each game. From that standpoint, consoles are perfect.
 
It's a mix of things for me:

1) Not really seeing too much I need to play that I can't already, frankly - the few games I want to play just don't seem to warrant a pc over all the exciting new stuff in console space (psvr last year, switch and possibly a scorpio and/or ps4pro this year)
2) Don't have one right now and that means a ~500+ investment to play the handful that I'd want to
3) I like playing on my couch with a controller - I don't have a place to play on a keyboard/mouse and have zero desire to try to make that work.
4) I lost my interest in dealing with pc problems (it's only been recently that I haven't had a gaming pc) and haven't felt like I'm missing out

This is actually the first generation of consoles where I haven't had a PC - all I have is a my work macbook in my house (I did play quite a bit of guildwars 2 on it a couple years ago though).

I'm glad PC gaming still exists, but for me it's becoming harder and harder to justify it when compared to consoles for me. I was thinking of building a PC this year, but now a Switch just feels like a way better investment as far as the amount of joy it'll bring to my household (have a weekly gaming night, and a PC just doesn't even remotely help with that - there's almost zero local multiplayer games on PCs).
 
Id never be happy id always be tweaking some setting or upgrading some components.

Least with console its WYSIWYG
 
i just dont find it very comfortable, besides i need to have GAF always open and readily available.

now, i dislike with all my heart the changes they did to Dota2 so my PCs arent even dota-machines anymore only VNs and RTSs
 
I don't refuse to use PC but it is my secondary platform while my PS4 and Vita are my primary and typically get priority on the multiplats mostly cause:

1) Portability: I carry my consoles around with me a lot to friends houses and venues for things like fighting games. I enjoy playing my Vita laying down or wherever it's convenient.

2) Japanese games: PS4 and Vita are more likely to get JP games and exclusives way earlier than PC does.

3) Convenience(aka plug and play): While this isn't the literal case anymore, and as someone who used to be in the DIY PC builder camp, I just don't have time to fiddle around with settings and troubleshoot driver issues anymore.
My storage is getting full from installations and I'm long overdue for a reformat and overhaul on my PC. This is just way too much effort and is a money pit as I could use a lot of new things on this front. (New desk, new case, new cpu = new mobo = new ram, etc.)
 
Just as is the pathetic 180s on particular games being crap till platform holder markets their own version

Forget titles, entire genres are shit until they make a console debut.
People used to dismiss the PC as only having FPS / MMOs and RTSes.

Weirdly one of those genres has been dropped (replaced with MOBAs, nobody wants MOBAs!) and the PC is shit because it doesn't get enough AAA FPSes
 
I just don't know where to begin really. I have no idea which graphics card or motherboard or anything is better than the other, I don't understand the metrics they use to measure the capabilities of each, and I don't know how to put it together, upgrade specific parts, nor really want to find out with stuff that costs so much money. If I got a gaming PC, I'd want a good one, which means a lot of money off the bat.

I could do plenty of research and find out which parts are the best, save my money and pay a little extra to get it built for me, and then set up bluetooth and connect my Xbox or PlayStation controller so that I can game from my couch.

Or I could just play on console.

This is how I feel.

& Bloodborne.
 
Because it's far too often seen that people ignore the existence of PC exclusives because they aren't your typical console AAA shooter or AAA game in general therefore they don't count.

You're right though, it probably shouldn't be questioned.
The fact that you acknowledge that PC games aren't your typical console AAA shooter or AAA game in general justifies the reason why some people don't care about PC exclusives. I for one much prefer the typical AAA gaming experience. Therefore why wouldn't I want to game on a platform that tended to get more exclusive games of that type.

Let's take this out of the gaming fanboy area a bit. Suppose I like superhero movie blockbusters and I have the option of buying a movie subscription to one of two theaters. However one of them offers more superhero blockbusters while the other offers more indy dramas. Guess which one I would buy?

I'd buy the one giving me access to more superhero movie blockbusters. I would hope that wouldn't be a controversial decision. However when the same thought process is applied to gaming, somehow that logic no longer applies. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
 
That's it, I have never had to mess around with settings, drivers, compatability issues, update parts or anything else. It just works and nothing is going to change that.
Settings - You do realise almost literally every game will auto-configure to your PC specs, right?

Drivers - These are so infrequent (even if you update with every version) that it's like the equivalent of your console updating.

Compatibility - Checking if your specs match a game on Steam is as easy as checking the back of a console game box and thinking "do I need internet/friends/whatever to play this"

Update parts - Huh?

It seems that most people who are vehemently against PC gaming seem to think PCs are stuck in 2001 or even 1991. PCs also "just work".

Anyone who disagrees with these facts (other than my preference that these extra steps shouldn't be there) is just being disingenuous.

Lol
 
The pc has always carried a negative feeling for me when I think about gaming. I now realize I am mostly wrong but say 15 years ago I felt it was a buggy mess with made up games and fake controllers.


Now I just can't afford a good rig and graphics haven't mattered in 3 generation for me so I don't see the point.
 
The fact that you acknowledge that PC games aren't your typical console AAA shooter or AAA game in general justifies the reason why some people don't care about PC exclusives.

This would hold more water if popular titles like Call Of Duty, Battlefield, GTA, and The Elder Scrolls did not originate as PC exclusives, or if these series weren't clear iterations from the original titles.
 
It really is a shame that scrappy doo gets so aggressive at the merest possibility he might not be as good as his unca scooby, so comes in swinging with lemme at 'em

Neutral conversation will never be achieved on both sides (despite the fact there shouldn't be any sides, it's all video games anyways). People love shitting on other people for their purchasing habits far too much.

I long for further platform agnosticism, especially if Microsoft can get their shit together. It just might push us all into a beautiful goulash of gaming eventually.
 
The pc has always carried a negative feeling for me when I think about gaming. I now realize I am mostly wrong but say 15 years ago I felt it was a buggy mess with made up games and fake controllers.


Now I just can't afford a good rig and graphics haven't mattered in 3 generation for me so I don't see the point.

Ghost Recon
Tropico
Aliens vs Predator 2
Clive Barker's Undying
Serious Sam
Max Payne
Tribes 2
Black & White
Grand Theft Auto III
Neverwinter Nights
No One Lives Forever 2
Tony Hawk 3
Freedom Force
Jedi Knight II
Age of Mythology
Battlefield 1942
Mafia
UT 2003

15+- years ago was a pretty good year(s if you do 2001 or 2002) on PC :p

I was also putting time into my N64, Dreamcast, and Xbox around that time too though.
 
I couldn't afford a gaming PC and a console so I have to choose one. I'm very busy so console is nice and easy, no worries about system requirements. Also I personally find the console exclusives more compelling than PC ones. See Gravity Rush 2 and Horizon ZD coming out in back to back months as an example. I know PC has great exclusives too but I have to choose, not trying to disparage anyone's preferences.

I would love to have a beefy PC to play games at a higher fidelity but I think if I went PC I would have to go mid tier anyway.
 
  • Hand pain issues on m/k
  • Dealing with Windows, hardware upgrades, drivers, etc.
  • Constant anxiety over settings balance of performance vs. graphics quality
  • I work all day on a computer so my brain tells me computers are for work and I can't relax
  • Console exclusives
  • Expense
  • Every time I give PC a shot, it ends in disappointment. (e.g. Wasteland 2 required multiple downloads, installs, clearing of Steam temp files, more downloads and re-installs, finally an update corrupted my save file. Pillars of Eternity required me to re-download the game and install numerous patches (in a specific order and don't miss one!) numerous times.)
 
I don't really want to upgrade my PC. By now I'd probably have to get everything new.

All I'm gonna get is a second hard-drive, and that's just for storing porn.

I do play some older games on PC now and then, but eh.
 
I finally got one this last spring.

The main things that held me back so long were mostly:

-Misinformation from the console only crowd, mixed with bad experiences back in the early 2000 with PC gaming. All the typical stuff about having to hassle with drivers and settings to get things running, expensive, lacking controller support and I hate kb/m controls etc.

-No interest in gaming at a desk/on a monitor and I didn't have the layout or funds to have a mancave where I can have a big screen, recliner etc. for gaming and also fit my desk until this year.

Once I was able to take care of the second and easily have my work at home desk space and the PC, I did more research and found out the first set of concerns isn't really an issue anymore--other than having to be careful and research older games of course.

I've been super pleased so far. Anything recent works like a charm with no set up with my Xbox One Elite pad. Any tinkering with settings is either just letting the game autodetect, and if the game doesn't have that just try settings on high/ultra nd go down a notch if frame rates struggle (which has been rare so far). Only bad port issue I've had is Forza Horizon 3, and I"m one of the lucky ones that doesn't get crashes and only gets stutters in a few problem places/races (I get regular microdrops down into the high 50s, but I don't even notice those if I don't have the frame rate counter display on). No issues with updates. Steam autoupdates my games, I have the Nvidia experience app tell me when theirs a driver update, Windows 10 updates itself. Pretty much the same as the console experience for me given that, and that I do all my gaming on the same TV and in the same recliner where I play my consoles. Cost also wasn't a big deal. I got a prebuilt gaming PC for pretty much what I was usually paying for a new work at home PC every 5ish years before.

Only downsides of PC for me still are:

-Game cost for playing AAA games at/near launch. It's hard to justify the $60, when I can get 20% with Amazon Prime or Best Buy GCU and sell the game on Amazon after beating.

-My couple of best real life gaming friends are still on console, so things I want to play with them I have to buy there.

-I still love console exclusives, especially Nintendo games and some of Sony's stuff like Naughty Dog, Infamous etc.

So I mostly use my PC for single player multiplats that I don't care to play at launch and can buy when they hit $30 or less where I don't care about losing resell value.

I'll definitely have a PC + Nintendo going forward. I'll probably just deal with missing the Sony exclusives post PS4.
 
Let's take this out of the gaming fanboy area a bit. Suppose I like superhero movie blockbusters and I have the option of buying a movie subscription to one of two theaters. However one of them offers more superhero blockbusters while the other offers more indy dramas. Guess which one I would buy?

I'd buy the one giving me access to more superhero movie blockbusters. I would hope that wouldn't be a controversial decision. However when the same thought process is applied to gaming, somehow that logic no longer applies. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Yeah I would have guessed you will get the one with worse films. But that's okay, if your taste is more casual. Then go for the blockbusters and PS4. Your personal taste is only thing that should matter when spending your money. You get the subscription or gaming platform for yourself after all.
 
Convenience, really.

Also, I seem to see a lot of lamenting about how populations dry up on PC, where I can find folks to play with online fine with Xbox.

Then it seems like if I want to play one of my steam games on a controller, its up to the developer to support it.

So yeah, convenience.
 
  • Hand pain issues on m/k
  • Dealing with Windows, hardware upgrades, drivers, etc.
  • Constant anxiety over settings balance of performance vs. graphics quality
  • I work all day on a computer so my brain tells me computers are for work and I can't relax
  • Console exclusives
  • Expense
  • Every time I give PC a shot, it ends in disappointment. (e.g. Wasteland 2 required multiple downloads, installs, clearing of Steam temp files, more downloads and re-installs, finally an update corrupted my save file. Pillars of Eternity required me to re-download the game and install numerous patches (in a specific order and don't miss one!) numerous times.)


I just don't see how that can be, I've never heard of anything like that. Multiple downloads and reinstalls? Specific order of patches? I mean it's like some of you are in some alternate dimension tryin to use a Pc to game on. Games don't need reinstalled numerous times on a well working machine. Sure if someone has a garbage machine bogged down with crap maybe, but typically once a game is installed these days it's fine.

And steam handles patches, hell half the time games patch I am not even aware because it rolls in and finishes.
 
I game (mostly) on PC but many in my family refuse to. What I've gathered from talking to them is that they just find it too intimidating. Consoles are made as a product that just works. They put their game in (or download) hit play, and that's that. There's no downloading a client to install a game and then choosing a directory, and then editing settings, and then troubleshooting when the game crashes or doesn't work well. Basically there's just less to go wrong in their minds so the simpler solution is the obvious choice.

...personally, I think they're just making excuses for being lazy.
 
I could be here all day discussing this and listing games, but it is a waste of time if you want to be so obtuse about it, with a predefined notion of what a console game is. You have people ranting and raving about games like Shadow Tactics and Divinity, yet their many counter parts have never made the switch, before or after. You may not care, but not all console gamers are the same just as on PC. You can buy diarrhea flavored ice cream on consoles right now, but you do clearly get personally upset at the notion that others found you just scribbled that on the label and it was just strawberry
You are arguing with yourself. I repeated your own argument. The reasons why many PC games are not ported to consoles is because they won't sell on consoles. The fact that you list some games that got a decent review (although I noticed you didn't mention their sales) doesn't change that.

The games that are ported to consoles are typically the best of their kind and are well suited towards consoles. I am perfectly happy with that filter in place. There are a steady stream of PC-to-console ports which appears to be increasing as the console install base increases. Bringing this back around to my original point, any PC game that I'd want to play on my console looks to have a good chance of coming to my console. History has shown that to be a correct analysis of the situation. If you want to argue with that history to make yourself feel better, go right ahead.
 
I chose to play primarily on the console, rather then the pc for a variety of reasons. Ease of use is definitely one. I think people who game on a pc regularly forget that the little tweaks and fixes they can do almost without thought are confusing and even intimidating to a novice user. My children game primarily on pc. My oldest can address most issues on his own. The younger two still need help. It's certainly not a daily (or even weekly) struggle like some would suggest, but needing to tweak/fix something for them is not a rare occurrence. It is definitely not rare to need to do some low end 'fixes' to get a game working properly for them, or to address some performance issue. Typically it's fairly easy for me being reasonably proficient, but that's not the case for everyone. Even ridiculous sounding things, easy to fix for someone with even moderate skills, is a hurdle for someone not tech proficient. I had to drive over to my parents recently because they had 'broken' their computer. Turns out they had simply rotated the screen accidentally.

I'm primarily a social gamer, and my friends game on consoles. I have a family of 5 meaning someone always wants to be on one of the pc's (or needs it for homework), and my console is always available. I like some of the console exclusive games. Graphics aren't terribly important to me. I've been a console gamer most of my life - it's comfortable and convenient.
 
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