Walking into a store and just picking up a console versus my lazy butt doing that.
Cost, ease of use, and exclusives.
I don't know how PC only players survive on just 3rd party content. I know it comes down to taste, but I was raised on a diet of PlayStation exclusives like Wipeout, Gran Turismo, Uncharted, Ridge Racer, Jak and Daxter.
Then there's Nintendo exclusives.
Plus I want to game on my sofa with a controller..and not worry about upgrading this or that. I feel like you'd always be worried about what to upgrade next in a never ending hardware cycle if you had a PC. No thanks.
I completely understand. I like that website because it can give someone an overview of parts and their price range/performance. As far as ease of use I would say going through that initial hard stage is worth playing every 3rd party game at 60fps. I had my second PC built at microcenter because I didn't want the hassle and stress of another build. I also have the option of connecting my PC with an hdmi cable to my tv where I play with a wireless xbox one controller. I will say, if you ever decide you want to give it a shot, there will always be tons of people willing to help you out picking parts that match your budget.
Another thing that holds me back sometimes is the urge to play on a big screen. I just get tired of sitting at my desk all the time. I have tried hooking my computer up to the TV but I couldn't get the picture quality to be ideal.
I haven't heard the most positive things about Steam link either but maybe that has changed?
Lol i apologize but this thread is getting so far fetched now I don't even have words. You're making it seem like adjusting settings requires the time one would invest in an MMO and being married and having kids allows for no time to simply select a few settings lol what?
I'm married and believe me I've never had to put off anything in life due to adjusting some settings lol
Because it's far too often seen that people ignore the existence of PC exclusives because they aren't your typical console AAA shooter or AAA game in general therefore they don't count.
You're right though, it probably shouldn't be questioned.
I've been on PC since 2011 and I can't comprehend why people think you have to tinker with settings and drivers. Maybe if you're playing ancient games on PC? I can see how that'd be tricky. But there are people here saying that you have to struggle with drivers and settings for all games, and that's a lie. I don't even remember when I last a problem with drivers, definitely hasn't happened on my current PC at least.
I inevitably will grab one special gaming PC in the future, because I want to play ALL the games, but at this moment, I'm just not in that mindset or place to do so. I can game on my current PC right now but definitely want to upgrade it when I'm ready. Using that website and gaf as resources too.
You know that's bullshit. You're trying tell me you haven't screwed around with overclocking, temperature/fan settings, and all of the other things that come with getting the most out of your PC?
Like I said, I used to enjoy gaming on the PC when I had a lot less responsibilities in my life. Every minute is crucial when you're trying to balance family, work, and hitting the gym.
Enjoy your free time though. I look back to when I was married with no kids and laugh at how much time I thought being a husband took up.
Well I think it is right to call it out if there is a blatant narrative of a person simply having never attempted to try any, yet proceeding to decree them all terrible.
Cost, convenience, controls, lack of japanese games and lack of interest in PC genres like MOBAs, FPSs and online competitive games in general. Plus I value style over graphics. Wind Waker will always look a hundred times prettier than Battlefield One in my eyes.
I'm much happier with my Sony / Nintendo combo.
Cost, ease of use, and exclusives.
I don't know how PC only players survive on just 3rd party content. I know it comes down to taste, but I was raised on a diet of PlayStation exclusives like Wipeout, Gran Turismo, Uncharted, Ridge Racer, Jak and Daxter.
Then there's Nintendo exclusives.
Plus I want to game on my sofa with a controller..and not worry about upgrading this or that. I feel like you'd always be worried about what to upgrade next in a never ending hardware cycle if you had a PC. No thanks.
Edit: I also don't understand AT All the people who spend thousands on a really high end graphics machine...and then play it on a tiny 22" monitor. Like, what?! I game on a 55 inch TV and I wouldn't dream of using a monitor. Ever.
You were the one who said that one of the reasons why the ports weren't done was because some of the games were too old/not worth the effort. I was agreeing with you. Your whole economics set of arguments are self defeating. If the games would sell on the consoles, then it would be economical to port. If they won't sell, console gamers don't care about them, so the fact that they aren't ported has no impact.
To sum up, you listed many games that console gamers would not buy as a reason why console gamers should be upset that they can't buy them. I can't buy diarrhea flavored ice cream, but I'm not upset that either.
Particularly where you have the situation when things like a Magicka sequel or a Day Of The Tentacle remake get pride of place at a platform owners press conference, and suddenly that's an amazing win
Cost, ease of use, and exclusives.
I don't know how PC only players survive on just 3rd party content. I know it comes down to taste, but I was raised on a diet of PlayStation exclusives like Wipeout, Gran Turismo, Uncharted, Ridge Racer, Jak and Daxter.
You know that's bullshit. You're trying tell me you haven't screwed around with overclocking, temperature/fan settings, and all of the other things that come with getting the most out of your PC?
Like I said, I used to enjoy gaming on the PC when I had a lot less responsibilities in my life. Every minute is crucial when you're trying to balance family, work, and hitting the gym.
Enjoy your free time though. I look back to when I was married with no kids and laugh at how much time I thought being a husband took up.
Just as is the pathetic 180s on particular games being crap till platform holder markets their own version
I just don't know where to begin really. I have no idea which graphics card or motherboard or anything is better than the other, I don't understand the metrics they use to measure the capabilities of each, and I don't know how to put it together, upgrade specific parts, nor really want to find out with stuff that costs so much money. If I got a gaming PC, I'd want a good one, which means a lot of money off the bat.
I could do plenty of research and find out which parts are the best, save my money and pay a little extra to get it built for me, and then set up bluetooth and connect my Xbox or PlayStation controller so that I can game from my couch.
Or I could just play on console.
The fact that you acknowledge that PC games aren't your typical console AAA shooter or AAA game in general justifies the reason why some people don't care about PC exclusives. I for one much prefer the typical AAA gaming experience. Therefore why wouldn't I want to game on a platform that tended to get more exclusive games of that type.Because it's far too often seen that people ignore the existence of PC exclusives because they aren't your typical console AAA shooter or AAA game in general therefore they don't count.
You're right though, it probably shouldn't be questioned.
Settings - You do realise almost literally every game will auto-configure to your PC specs, right?That's it, I have never had to mess around with settings, drivers, compatability issues, update parts or anything else. It just works and nothing is going to change that.
Anyone who disagrees with these facts (other than my preference that these extra steps shouldn't be there) is just being disingenuous.
The fact that you acknowledge that PC games aren't your typical console AAA shooter or AAA game in general justifies the reason why some people don't care about PC exclusives.
It really is a shame that scrappy doo gets so aggressive at the merest possibility he might not be as good as his unca scooby, so comes in swinging with lemme at 'em
Neutral conversation will never be achieved on both sides (despite the fact there shouldn't be any sides, it's all video games anyways). People love shitting on other people for their purchasing habits far too much.
The pc has always carried a negative feeling for me when I think about gaming. I now realize I am mostly wrong but say 15 years ago I felt it was a buggy mess with made up games and fake controllers.
Now I just can't afford a good rig and graphics haven't mattered in 3 generation for me so I don't see the point.
tribalism
Let's take this out of the gaming fanboy area a bit. Suppose I like superhero movie blockbusters and I have the option of buying a movie subscription to one of two theaters. However one of them offers more superhero blockbusters while the other offers more indy dramas. Guess which one I would buy?
I'd buy the one giving me access to more superhero movie blockbusters. I would hope that wouldn't be a controversial decision. However when the same thought process is applied to gaming, somehow that logic no longer applies. ¯\_(ツ_/¯
- Hand pain issues on m/k
- Dealing with Windows, hardware upgrades, drivers, etc.
- Constant anxiety over settings balance of performance vs. graphics quality
- I work all day on a computer so my brain tells me computers are for work and I can't relax
- Console exclusives
- Expense
- Every time I give PC a shot, it ends in disappointment. (e.g. Wasteland 2 required multiple downloads, installs, clearing of Steam temp files, more downloads and re-installs, finally an update corrupted my save file. Pillars of Eternity required me to re-download the game and install numerous patches (in a specific order and don't miss one!) numerous times.)
You are arguing with yourself. I repeated your own argument. The reasons why many PC games are not ported to consoles is because they won't sell on consoles. The fact that you list some games that got a decent review (although I noticed you didn't mention their sales) doesn't change that.I could be here all day discussing this and listing games, but it is a waste of time if you want to be so obtuse about it, with a predefined notion of what a console game is. You have people ranting and raving about games like Shadow Tactics and Divinity, yet their many counter parts have never made the switch, before or after. You may not care, but not all console gamers are the same just as on PC. You can buy diarrhea flavored ice cream on consoles right now, but you do clearly get personally upset at the notion that others found you just scribbled that on the label and it was just strawberry
Everyone is at the same playing level on consoles (same fps, graphics)
Didn't iterative consoles like the Pro kill that?