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[joecanada]

Wait what? You literally just go to the sound control panel, click your device, click configure and then check stereo, 3 channel, 5.1, etc

It takes maybe 30 seconds? And once you've done that it's set.

edit: It even lets you make a distinction between whether your surround left and rights are behind you or at your sides.

edit edit: and if your receiver doesn't support 4k60 or HDR, you can run one hdmi from your gpu to the tv and another from the motherboard to the receiver. With a console you would be limited to optical or ARC, which are both of lower sound quality.

why does my sound test do 5.1 but no games or like youtube do it? I guess it's dependent on the program?? or do you have to select sound from gpu if that's what you want it to do for each case? will it revert back to cpu sound once you select it?

 

[JamesHolden]

I have a PC with a GTX 1080 and still spend the majority of my time on my Console. Big reason is I like playing competitive MP shooters with a controller and don't want the disadvantage on PC of playing against M/KB.

Second I have a wife that puts up a lot of my Video Game shit so keeping things simple and accessible for her and our family in the living room makes an HTPC problematic.

Third, my main MP buddies are on console and dont want a PC for cost/addiction reasons.

Fourth, the TV interface with a PC is still pretty awful, especially compared to console.

 

[MazeHaze]

So you agree with "It would be incorrect to say that playing on a PC is a totally hassle free experience. The console experience is still easier and less problem prone on average." but you don't think that could be motivation for a person to game on a console?

I think most would agree with this statement. It's just a different strokes thing honestly. Yeah a console is overall more hassle free, but for a lot of PC gaf, the vast amount of options available to suit your personal needs outweighs that hassle.

I'd also argue that any hassle associated with PC gaming is mostly squashed within a couple months of playing on PC. If any issues pop-up, you usually know what the problem is immediately and it takes a quick alt+tab and a few clicks to correct.

 

[gogojira]

I don't know, I always found it pretty clear cut but then this gen came around and fucked a lot of things up. I play all consoles (even snagged a PS4 Pro) and PC.

Historically console:
Pre built in pretty package, cheap
Plug into TV
Very limited maintenance with updates, etc.
Start Playing

PC:
Research your gear, AMD/Nvidia, etc. Performance varies from game to game based on platform of choice (I played Doom on an AMD card)
Gets pricey and intimidating fast
Assemble your shit if you build it yourself
Your reward is best visuals, best digital store

Most of GAF can get over the hang ups of PC gaming. And most gamers with enough free time will do enough research to pick out a nice PC. But if you're presented with a few hundred bucks for gaming goods, you're going to scoop up a PS4 and some games.

I love PC gaming, but I get why it's not for everyone. I understand the lines are blurring and the PC CAN do all of these things consoles do, but most people don't want to bother and would rather just plop a console under their TV. This gen kind of sucks though because in the shift to being more PC-like, XB1 and PS4 pale in comparison to where the PC actually is. Conversely, the PC's console-like features are getting close to parity which is probably why it's a hot option right now.

No matter what, and this goes for people here, a console is still the best option for people who want the least of amount of headaches. It's proprietary hardware built to be shoved under a TV.

 

[Goldboy]

I have wrist pain when I'm gaming with a mouse.

I get this too. I can only play on my PC for an hour or so at a time because of the annoying pain in my wrist.

 

[Nzyme32]

So you agree with "It would be incorrect to say that playing on a PC is a totally hassle free experience. The console experience is still easier and less problem prone on average." but you don't think that could be motivation for a person to game on a console?

No - I agree that it would be incorrect to state that and that the console experience is easier and less problem prone on average - I've said so in my previous posts. What I am saying here is that there is a consistent set of people that don't care either way on both sides. They haven't tried the other platform but spout the same old nonsence for a platform superiority kick. No amount of list threads to debunk such hyperbole will be paid attention to by the majority of those folks and they'll keep on with trying to justify their favoured platform blindly over their "opposition"

 

[Dark_3nergy]

I do game on PC. Rarely. But, if I go to update graphic drivers, or if something unexpected happens to my machine. I suddenly cannot game(s) on it anymore. Then I have to switch over to trouble shooting. This is a huge turn off. Despite me being fairly knowledgeable of PCs. I would not consider myself an IT person.

 

[Kuro Madoushi]

...have some of you never played a game on PC in the last decade.......?

I admit, back in the day PC games were a colossal pain in the fucking ass. Constant patches you had to get and install yourself, constant problems due to incompatibility, constant games simply not working no matter what you do. I often had to get cracks just go get my fucking games working.

Since jumping onto steam a long ass time ago, the majority of software issues has been resolved. You'd get the odd title here or there that can really fuck up and some other glitches due to drivers and hardware but I'd say 99% of games work fine.

The last big problem I had was XCOM 2 due to having my fucking XBONE controller plugged in. The one before that was Red Faction guerilla that had a video problem I believe.

Exclusives? Certainly it's a valid reason but definitely not as much as the past.

Comfy couch? Steam Link and Big Picture mode can address that.

Social experience? Consoles are better for people physically in the same area but online is the same if not better. The complaints I've heard here (goddamn you firehawk) such as not wanting to fiddle with voice apps is negligible with web apps like Discord that are disgustingly easy to set up, connect to, and use. Sharing and streaming is available on both platforms as well.

 

[Gouty]

I think most would agree with this statement. It's just a different strokes thing honestly. Yeah a console is overall more hassle free, but for a lot of PC gaf, the vast amount of options available to suit your personal needs outweighs that hassle.

I'd also argue that any hassle associated with PC gaming is mostly squashed within a couple months of playing on PC. If any issues pop-up, you usually know what the problem is immediately and it takes a quick alt+tab and a few clicks to correct.

I wouldn't disagree with a single thing you said. Yet again, for those that dont get it, people that are explaining why they don't play on the PC aren't saying the PC its worse, they're saying what they don't care for and why they game elsewhere. It's preference, which is precisely the question they're answering.

 

[MazeHaze]

why does my sound test do 5.1 but no games or like youtube do it? I guess it's dependent on the program?? or do you have to select sound from gpu if that's what you want it to do for each case? will it revert back to cpu sound once you select it?

AFAIK, youtube on browsers doesn't support 5.1, or maybe I just haven't watched any. Most people aren't gonna encode their youtube videos for 5.1 in the first place.

I'm not sure why no games are supporting it for you. In my experience, after setting it up in the control panel real quick, you're ready to go. Certain games of course won't support 5.1 because they we'rent engineered that way, but most modern games will automatically output 5.1 once your windows settings are applied.

This has worked for me both from the GPU hdmi out and the Motherboard hdmi out.

Literally set it once, and then never adjusted again and I get perfect 5.1 from things that support it.

 

[NHarmonic.]

Elaborate?

There's literally no difference between playing on a console or computer for me (not talking about graphics, just the whole setup).

I don't play games with so much proximity to the screen.

 

[zoodoo]

I wouldn't disagree with a single thing you said. Yet again, for those that dont get it, people that are explaining why they don't play on the PC aren't saying the PC its worse, they're saying what they don't care for and why they game elsewhere. It's preference, which is precisely the question they're answering.

My man.

OP asked why. I gave my reasons and they called my reasons "stupid"

 

[Marty Chinn]

I mean that's a super user specific thing though, don't know why you're having that issue, but that does sound like a huge pain. It's also not really buried, you can just type "sound" into the search bar and it takes you right there. If you can't go into the control panel to change your sound output settings, you're going to have a lot more problems than just running games on your computer and setting up surround sound.

Well that's the problem with PC, you get thousands and thousands of user specific things. None of them are so terrible that they can't be fixed, but all of them add up to an experience that isn't as smooth as a console. See, I didn't even know you could just type sound. Like I said, you need to know specifically how to get there. If you go to Settings, it's not so obvious. I still hate how Microsoft really has two settings areas between Settings and Control Panel. Like I said, I didn't even know you could just type sound. I typically just right click on the sound icon in the tray and select Playback devices. Either way, I feel the ease of getting there and trying to enable surround sound is nowhere near as easy as it is on a console. For a console, the default setting is just auto detect and you don't even need to do anything. Even if you have to go through the settings menu, that's by far more streamlined than trying to figure out is it in Settings, or is it in Control Panel or what the shortcut you need to type is. Again, none of these things are hard, they are just small things that are less smooth than the console experience.

And I'd say I've had about the same amount of hard crashes on my ps4 and my pc, which is very few. Maybe 5-10 on each.

edit: I'd say PC is certainly less smooth of an experience, but the difference in smoothness is pretty small overall if you're mostly just gaming, and any hassle on PC is worth it for the amount of options that are available that a console simply cannot offer. (sacrificing graphics for framerate depending on which you prefer, custom resolutions, framerates above 60, mods, cheap steam keys, etc)

My PC is dedicated for gaming. It sits right underneath my TV, and about 99% of the things installed on there are games and the other 1% is an occasional utility or something else I need to use on it but it's primarily a dedicated gaming PC. It still has issues that just would never happen on a console. I put up with it because of the advantages the PC has and how minor the issues are, but every time I encounter one, it's just a reminder of why I prefer a console to a PC despite the advantages.

None of this buying a new console to wait on patches so you can play in 4k. Just lower shadow quality and ambient occlusion, set your res to 4k, boom done. Even on most older games. Also no waiting for remasters, I can play ps360 era games at 4k right now at the highest settings.

Hey, I'm not keen on the whole mid generation console concept or how they handle it either. So, I'm not praising the whole idea that you need a patch for your old games to work.

why does my sound test do 5.1 but no games or like youtube do it? I guess it's dependent on the program?? or do you have to select sound from gpu if that's what you want it to do for each case? will it revert back to cpu sound once you select it?

PC games play back in LPCM 5.1 and not Dolby Digital or DTS. So for starters, you have to make sure whatever you're outputting to supports uncompressed LPCM surround sound. Which I might add is another knock against PC gaming for some.

 

[MazeHaze]

I don't play games with so much proximity to the screen.

Me neither. I play all of my PC games from my couch on a 55 inch 4k television hooked up to surround sound. I'm typing this from my couch right now...

 

[Naythan]

It's mostly the stench.

 

[DjRalford]

I don't play games with so much proximity to the screen.

I play my PC sat on my sofa about 10ft away, on the same TV as my PS4.

 

[Gouty]

Me neither. I play all of my PC games from my couch on a 55 inch 4k television hooked up to surround sound. I'm typing this from my couch right now...

I don't believe your personal experience and by extension your preference.

We're going to need a numerical representation of your comfort level. Lets use a 10 point scale.

I'd rate my Wii U gaming while on a couch a 7.

 

[MazeHaze]

Well that's the problem with PC, you get thousands and thousands of user specific things. None of them are so terrible that they can't be fixed, but all of them add up to an experience that isn't as smooth as a console. See, I didn't even know you could just type sound. Like I said, you need to know specifically how to get there. If you go to Settings, it's not so obvious. I still hate how Microsoft really has two settings areas between Settings and Control Panel. Like I said, I didn't even know you could just type sound. I typically just right click on the sound icon in the tray and select Playback devices. Either way, I feel the ease of getting there and trying to enable surround sound is nowhere near as easy as it is on a console. For a console, the default setting is just auto detect and you don't even need to do anything. Even if you have to go through the settings menu, that's by far more streamlined than trying to figure out is it in Settings, or is it in Control Panel or what the shortcut you need to type is. Again, none of these things are hard, they are just small things that are less smooth than the console experience.

But again, even if you have to google something to figure out how to change the setting (and once you do, you've learned and it's pretty easy). Certainly a bit more involved than a console, but I'd argue that the flexibility makes up for it, especially if you don't have any issues in the first place.

If I was relying on a ps4pro right now exclusively, I would need to plug directly into my tv and then output sound via arc or optical because my receiver doesn't support HDR. With pc I can output from the gpu to the tv and from the mobo to the receiver and get HDR with full quality PCM audio.

Totally agree that it is more of a hassle than a console, but it's not THAT much more of a hassle. It's not like the majority of people need to spend hours trying to figure out how to get to playback devices in the control panel, meanwhile people still seem confused about what settings they need to set a ps4 pro to in order to get the best 4k hdr experience.

 

[MazeHaze]

I don't believe your personal experience and by extension your preference.

We're going to need a numerical representation of your comfort level. Lets use a 10 point scale.

I'd rate my Wii U while on a couch a 7.3

ahaha I know you're joking but I'd say it's about the same as my ps4, which is a 10. Turn on my TV and my receiver, boot up my pc or ps4, hit the ps button on a controller, pick a game to play.

edit: Actually PC is probably a 9.5 and PS4 a 10 just for suspend/resume. Really love that feature.

 

[Purest 78]

Simple PC doesn't have my favorite exclusives,multiplats aren't enough for me to care about PC.

 

[Deleted member 752119]

Well heres my question, is there at least some folks who are surprised to learn that Pc gaming is a lot more accessible than it once was?

I think I sort of look at it from an enthusiast pov in that we all love gaming, and even if a Pc is a little more expensive, the payoff is just very much worth it because it takes this hobby to another level. I just wish more were able to experience that and bring down some of those walls.

I certainly was last year when I looked into PC gaming again after the MS play anywhere announcement. I could not be happier that I took the plunge--though I still have my PS4 (even upgraded to Pro) and Wii U (and soon Switfch) for exclusives as Sony and Nintendo exclusives are among my favorite games.

So I'm with you in hoping these threads help show a few skeptics that PC gaming isn't nearly as complicated as it was years ago, even if its still not quite as convenient as console gaming (especially for people who can't easily get their PC to their TV if that's how they game).

 

[Incitemaybe]

Windows. Tinkering with settings overshadows the game for me and I never really feel I've balanced everything as well as I might if I just kept tinkering. Keyboard and mouse as an input device is extremely dated and off putting to me. Regular controllers as an alternative to that are uninspiring and common to me.

There are lots of things id rather be creating when I have my computer open so that diverts any immersion I may be aiming for. That concept is similar on a smart device for me as well.

New ways of interacting in videogames is important to me and I feel PC gaming is mostly about graphics. I've seen/experienced every graphic leap in my lifetime, that's certainly something that used to be important but is much less so these days.

 

[Big Green Anus]

I really just prefer physical media for my games unless the digital version is extremely cheap. However, once consoles go all digital or physical disc becomes one time use only install like Steam physical games, then I'll definitely go PC.

 

[MazeHaze]

. Keyboard and mouse as an input device is extremely dated and off putting to me. Regular controllers as an alternative to that are uninspiring and common to me.

This is so interesting to me. I was console only my whole life until last year, and keyboard and mouse is like a revelation to me! First person games just don't feel nearly as good with a controller now that I'm used to being able to turn around so quickly. Dual sticks feel like I'm underwater now.

I also really like that in something like doom I have all of the weapons bound to a different key and can swap on the fly, didn't even realize there was a weapon wheel and I feel like my experience with the game was much faster paced and tense as a result of this.

 

[DeadlyParasite]

I mean I have a gaming PC, but only to play RTS/Strategy games. I just don't like playing any other kind of games on a computer.

 

[Lulubop]

I have wrist pain when I'm gaming with a mouse.

Same, sure wish I could just plug in a controller.

 

[Marty Chinn]

But again, even if you have to google something to figure out how to change the setting (and once you do, you've learned and it's pretty easy). Certainly a bit more involved than a console, but I'd argue that the flexibility makes up for it, especially if you don't have any issues in the first place.

Okay, since everything is so easy, how do I wake my PC with an Xbox 360 wireless controller? I still haven't figured that one out even after trying to Google it.

 

[MutFox]

I prefer PC for multiplats, but sometimes I need to play an exclusive on a console.

For the multiplats, I find it's a waste of money buying on a console.
That console will be retired in a few years,
but I'll be able to play that game on a new PC in the far future without re-buying.

Console gaming is just too expensive.
Seeing people on this forum asking for a remake/re-release on a current console of a game a few years old... :/

 

[MazeHaze]

Okay, since everything is so easy, how do I wake my PC with an Xbox 360 wireless controller? I still haven't figured that one out even after trying to Google it.

I'm not sure if that's possible wirelessly. Wired I think you could set whichever usb you have it plugged into to wake up from sleep. Haven't ever looked into this as I have a mouse on my coffee table that wakes the computer.

edit: from my first result on google:

Actually that wake up feature is there.
You have to have the wireless 360 controller turned on first.
Then go to it's properties; easy way to find the right device is within Control Panel > Devices and Printers > right click Wireless 360 Controller (not the Receiver) and then click Properties. Click the Hardware tab and then double click the HID-Comliant Game Controller and then click the Power Management tab.

All it will allow to do is wake the system from Sleep. You can't use such a method to Turn On the system when it's completely off.

edit edit: That's a pretty old link, but it seems you should be able to with some tinkering, not sure if that exact solution will work.

Also, you might have to change a setting in the BIOS of your motherboard. I couldn't even get my keyboard to wake from sleep at first until I did that, even if I set it to in Windows.

 

[Orayn]

Okay, since everything is so easy, how do I wake my PC with an Xbox 360 wireless controller? I still haven't figured that one out even after trying to Google it.

I don't believe you can wake up a PC with a controller, but I keep a small wireless keyboard+touchpad combo for that. Works great for general UI navigation whenever a controller doesn't work. (Game launchers, Windows UI, text input, etc.)

This is basically what I have.

 

[Sarcasm]

Pressing the power button on your PC this day and age is still faster than turning the console on wirelessly.

 

[EventHorizon]

Well heres my question, is there at least some folks who are surprised to learn that Pc gaming is a lot more accessible than it once was?

I think I sort of look at it from an enthusiast pov in that we all love gaming, and even if a Pc is a little more expensive, the payoff is just very much worth it because it takes this hobby to another level. I just wish more were able to experience that and bring down some of those walls.

I'll answer your question like this. I view the accessibility of PC vs consoles like the difference between a pay-as-you-go amusement park and one that has a flat fee for entry. I much prefer the flat fee types because I don't want every decision to go on a ride to have to include an evaluation of how much I'll enjoy it vs how much it will cost. I view that constant evaluation to be a negative in its own right.

PCs are like pay-as-you-go while consoles are flat fees. When I use a console I know that games are being specifically designed to work with my console's specifications in mind. If there is a problem then 99 times out of 100 every other console owner is going to experience that exact same problem. The developers will know about it and have a greater incentive to fix it because it affects everyone. I also know that this situation not only will exist today, but will continue to exist for the rest of the life of the console generation.

For me that is what I mean when I say I like the console's ease of use more than PCs. Right now I am experiencing the calm that comes from having already paid my flat fee at an amusement park.

Oh, and I forgot one other thing. Just buy/building a PC is a headache. I've been in the process of building a PC for like 6 months now. Every time I start I get stuck on which motherboard to buy. There are a ton of slightly different ones even from a single manufacturer, and there is no overall comparison that I've been able to find for all of them.

Early reviews don't mention products that came later. Reviews of later products don't mention the earlier products. A review might mention a problem that has since been fixed by a patch or newer revisions. Just to track all of this down I'm reading multiple reviews across message boards and review sites. I had to create an Excel spreadsheet to keep track of it all.

Meanwhile buying a console is a no brainer. The hardest part is deciding between Nintendo, Microsoft, or Sony, but there are tons of advertising and reviews readily available to help make that specific decision. Once the decision is made, the console can be bought at many close-by retail stores or online. This is another huge plus for console accessibility.

 

[Marty Chinn]

I'm not sure if that's possible wirelessly. Wired I think you could set whichever usb you have it plugged into to wake up from sleep. Haven't ever looked into this as I have a mouse on my coffee table that wakes the computer.

edit: from my first result on google:

Actually that wake up feature is there.
You have to have the wireless 360 controller turned on first.
Then go to it's properties; easy way to find the right device is within Control Panel > Devices and Printers > right click Wireless 360 Controller (not the Receiver) and then click Properties. Click the Hardware tab and then double click the HID-Comliant Game Controller and then click the Power Management tab.

All it will allow to do is wake the system from Sleep. You can't use such a method to Turn On the system when it's completely off.

Everything I've read said that doesn't work. It's been suggested many times but actually doing it ends up not working.

Heh, so I guess this adds to responding to the other guy questioning why you need a keyboard for your gaming PC trying to imply you could get away with a controller only. It sounds like you can't go controller alone.

 

[Squarehard]

I mainly got into PC gaming back in the 90s because it was just so amazing to me to be able to game with people over the internet, and also I was a teenager, so I was like, wow, this is awesome. Of course, that's a little bit different now, but still some games I enjoy playing on PC because it's more accessible from an online gaming perspective.

 

[Hollywood Hitman]

I certainly was last year when I looked into PC gaming again after the MS play anywhere announcement. I could not be happier that I took the plunge--though I still have my PS4 (even upgraded to Pro) and Wii U (and soon Switfch) for exclusives as Sony and Nintendo exclusives are among my favorite games.

So I'm with you in hoping these threads help show a few skeptics that PC gaming isn't nearly as complicated as it was years ago, even if its still not quite as convenient as console gaming (especially for people who can't easily get their PC to their TV if that's how they game).

Awesome to hear and same for me, I have all the consoles, and I'm day one for switch as well. Yea I just want a thread like this make some who have walls up see that it's definitely alot easier than it used to be

 

[MazeHaze]

I don't believe you can wake up a PC with a controller, but I keep a small wireless keyboard+touchpad combo for that. Works great for general UI navigation whenever a controller doesn't work.

This is basically what I have.

Ah yeah, I think you might be right, I'm not sure if the bluetooth adapter is powered while in sleep mode, which means you can't use the controller.

Still, if you are living room pc gaming, you should at the very least have a wireless mouse on or around your coffee table at all times. Or just turn your pc on manually when you walk into the room.

edit: can a wireless mouse wake a PC?

I have a wired kb+m in my living room set up, so I've never tried. (thank god for usb extension cables! lol)

Do they make remotes that turn on your pc? Surely someone has.

 

[Deleted member 752119]

This is so interesting to me. I was console only my whole life until last year, and keyboard and mouse is like a revelation to me! First person games just don't feel nearly as good with a controller now that I'm used to being able to turn around so quickly. Dual sticks feel like I'm underwater now.

I also really like that in something like doom I have all of the weapons bound to a different key and can swap on the fly, didn't even realize there was a weapon wheel and I feel like my experience with the game was much faster paced and tense as a result of this.

I just can't deal with the keyboard portion of it for FPS games. I'd rather just play with a contoller. I'm also one that just doesn't want to touch a kb/m for gaming after working at a desk/pc all day. Hell, I don't even like browsing the internet/posting on GAF from home on my desktop--I mostly use my ipad even though typing is much slower and more error prone.

I don't play any competitive games on PC anyway, so I don't have to worry about the controller disadvantage.

 

[Sarcasm]

Everything I've read said that doesn't work. It's been suggested many times but actually doing it ends up not working.

Heh, so I guess this adds to responding to the other guy questioning why you need a keyboard for your gaming PC trying to imply you could get away with a controller only. It sounds like you can't go controller alone.

Actually works with an XB1 controller.

To be honest I should stay out of this thread. The conversations in here are practically the same of last decade or more, back when XP was king.

 

[Marty Chinn]

Ah yeah, I think you might be right, I'm not sure if the bluetooth adapter is powered while in sleep mode, which means you can't use the controller.

Still, if you are living room pc gaming, you should at the very least have a wireless mouse on or around your coffee table at all times. Or just turn your pc on manually when you walk into the room.

edit: can a wireless mouse wake a PC?

I have a wired kb+m in my living room set up, so I've never tried. (thank god for usb extension cables! lol)

Do they make remotes that turn on your pc? Surely someone has.

Ya, a wireless mouse can wake a PC. The number of times I accidentally nudged my mouse after I put the PC to sleep....

Actually works with an XB1 controller.

Maybe choose something better to be all smug instead of nit picking a tiny feature.

So I gotta spend $60 to get a remote power button on my controller? Totally worth it! /s

I wasn't the person who questioned why you would need a keyboard on a gaming PC. This is a perfect reason why.

 

[Grief.exe]

...have some of you never played a game on PC in the last decade.......?

GAF is in a weird place with PC. The same tired arguments that have little to no basis continually crop up.

 

[Orayn]

Ah yeah, I think you might be right, I'm not sure if the bluetooth adapter is powered while in sleep mode, which means you can't use the controller.

Still, if you are living room pc gaming, you should at the very least have a wireless mouse on or around your coffee table at all times. Or just turn your pc on manually when you walk into the room.

edit: can a wireless mouse wake a PC?

I have a wired kb+m in my living room set up, so I've never tried. (thank god for usb extension cables! lol)

Do they make remotes that turn on your pc? Surely someone has.

This has a USB RF receiver and it can wake my PC just fine.

And yeah there are some dedicated PC remotes as well.

 

[RelentlessRolento]

So damn poor right now I'm surprised I even have a PS4 currently

 

[MazeHaze]

So damn poor right now I'm surprised I even have a PS4 currently

I feel that, don't worry though PS4 is a mighty fine platform. I still play mine all the time.

PC is usually better, but it's not 800 dollars better if you don't have the disposable income.

 

[Sarcasm]

Ya, a wireless mouse can wake a PC. The number of times I accidentally nudged my mouse after I put the PC to sleep....



So I gotta spend $60 to get a remote power button on my controller? Totally worth it! /s

I wasn't the person who questioned why you would need a keyboard on a gaming PC. This is a perfect reason why.

You also do pay for that controller as it is part of the initial price of that box. I also didn't pay 60 for a controller lol. It was actually cheaper than buying the 360 here locally.

 

[SSM25]

For me is cost and convenience. Also, no Sony or Nintendo games.

 

[MazeHaze]

I didn't spend 60 on my controller. Than again I don't live in a country where they know they can rip people off.

You also do pay for that controller as it is part of the initial price of that box.

This is true, but I mean if you want to play games, you can literally go spend like 250 dollars and be playing games relatively quickly. Much easier to get from 0 to gaming when you buy a console.

I'd imagine most who are taking the plunge into PC gaming already own at least one 360, xb1 or ps4 controller though.

 

[joecanada]

ahaha I know you're joking but I'd say it's about the same as my ps4, which is a 10. Turn on my TV and my receiver, boot up my pc or ps4, hit the ps button on a controller, pick a game to play.

edit: Actually PC is probably a 9.5 and PS4 a 10 just for suspend/resume. Really love that feature.

haha this is kind of funny but I'll bite. I'd rate ps4 a 9, it sometimes outputs inconsistent signal and my receiver blinks several times while trying to detect it.... spotify is great but the app is not as good as the full phone app. the controller its pretty good. ps4 (games probably more to blame) crashes maybe 1X/week.

PC I'd rate a 7 currently but only because I was struggling with wireless controller which I'm sure Bluetooth adapter plus ds4 will solve, also win10 sometimes does weird switcheroo with my tv/monitor settings but it's not too bad and I usually run duplicate screen for ease. once I fix controller I'd give it a 9, not quite as easy as ps4 but runs better once it's going (even less crashes surprisingly).

 

[Marty Chinn]

You also do pay for that controller as it is part of the initial price of that box. I also didn't pay 60 for a controller lol. It was actually cheaper than buying the 360 here locally.

Well it's $60 on Amazon, $60 on Walmart, $48 on Best Buy, $70 on Newegg... That's just the current going rate for an Xbox One controller w/ wireless Windows adapter. Plus all this just to replace my Xbox 360 controller, which works fine, just to get a power button. So really it's $48 to $70 to just get a power button on a controller because that's about the only thing I'm going to gain from updating my Xbox 360 controller to a Xbox One controller.

 

[Sarcasm]

This is true, but I mean if you want to play games, you can literally go spend like 250 dollars and be playing games relatively quickly. Much easier to get from 0 to gaming when you buy a console.

I'd imagine most who are taking the plunge into PC gaming already own at least one 360, xb1 or ps4 controller though.

They do. The reason the extra controller are 60 in the states or where ever is because they don't profit off the boxes. They profit off software sales. Then accessories, like extra controllers. It is all from perspective.

I got my XB1 for 38 new when converted. Not on sale either.

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My wired 360 controller died before any parts on my PC =(

 

[NahaNago]

i just prefer playing on console more and tend to buy most of my games for it. It doesn't matter what response anyone has to whatever reasons i have for my preference on using a console I do have a gaming pc and it is more powerful than the ps4 but all i really use it for is civ 5 and posting on neogaf.