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Yeah exactly. Considering the general vibe of the world and the mess in America right now, I'm all for fostering a Canadian sense of inclusion and diversity to combat this alt-right bullshit.

Definitely more needs to be done to support our Indigenous communities too though

^ Indeed.
 
A PhD student in my department (Queen's University in Canada) was supposed to travel to Texas for 5 weeks in the spring to get training on a complex watershed program... He is from Iran originally and it looks like he won't be going anymore :/
 
Yeah exactly. Considering the general vibe of the world and the mess in America right now, I'm all for fostering a Canadian sense of inclusion and diversity to combat this alt-right bullshit.

Definitely more needs to be done to support our Indigenous communities too though

Yup. To all that.
 
Trudeau is talking about refugees here by the way. Canada's immigration policies are generally quite fair. Their sponsorship programs in particular can be very lenient. That's how my lazy high school-educated jobless ass got to stay here.
 
Trudeau is a beacon of hope to so many right now. Canada should make a stand and accept every single refugee and immigrant being denied entry to the US.
 
It's incredible how Canada managed to avoid the bad influence of it's southern brother this long. Good on ya. Get some better weather though. Last time I was in Vancouver it was raining all the time.
 
Well, I think that's bullshit. Black people have a very well documented history of persecution in the US. Fuck that.

Yamauchi already says that Canty can "be stopped and questioned by police because he is black". The problem is that Canty's own submission of evidence didn't show:
assault, extensive detention, or lack of due process

Again, Canty failed the barometer for being a refugee while Somalis generally don't.
 
Sadly, I'm born in the U.S. & I'm black.

If anyone from Canada were to offer me a Canadian citizenship, I would definitely take that opportunity & get the hell away from here.

My record is clean, & I don't have any children or a family of my own to raise.
 
My understanding is that if you can still claim citizenship within Syria, yeah. Can you?

Since you're "only" Canadian at that point. At least you SHOULD be fine. The ban applies to dual-citizens, and since you're not a dual citizen...

If you have Dual citizenship and one of those countries is banned, it seems like it.

If you are just a Canadian citizen seems fine.



If you don't look white bread normal, probably can expect some extra hassle at the airports I imagine.

Well I just looked it up. Being born in Syria doesn't automatically make you a Syrian citizen. Syrian citizenship is passed on by your father. As long as your father is a Syrian citizen, you claim Syrian citizenship no matter where in the world you are born or no matter where you choose to live.

My father is not a Syrian citizen so that means I'm in the clear.

It's fucking ridiculous that I even had to worry about this. Thank goodness I live in Canada and I'm proud that I voted for Trudeau.
 
It's incredible how Canada managed to avoid the bad influence of it's southern brother this long. Good on ya. Get some better weather though. Last time I was in Vancouver it was raining all the time.

Rain is better than the snow you get in the rest of Canada or in most northern states.... imo.
 
Thanks for the tip. I'm considering what I want my second masters to be in now. PhDs are too academic and difficult for me.

Yeah that's why I suggested a Masters initially, since they're also really quite short.

For the record, here's an example of the program (this one for Ontario, there's one for nearly every province)

http://www.ontarioimmigration.ca/en/pnp/OI_PNPSTUDENTS_MASTERS.html

"Ontario Immigrant Nominee Program (OINP) offers an opportunity for International Students – Masters Graduates to live and work permanently in Ontario.

Prospective nominees applying under the Masters Graduates stream can apply without a job offer. Applicants can send nominee applications directly to OINP."


That's if you complete a Masters in that province.
 
Here

If you:
  • speak english
  • have a university/college degree
  • have job prospects

You probably won't face much/any resistance.

After my security clearance goes through, I'm seriously going to debate applying for citizenship through their express entry for skilled workers program:

For those interested, check here:
How Express Entry works

Supposedly 6 months or less turnaround compared to the usual year or more. Plus they'll help match you up with potential employers as the process develops.

How's the software development sector in Canada? Any provinces that stand out as tech centers for young folks with a bit of experience?
 
After my security clearance goes through, I'm seriously going to debate applying for citizenship through their express entry for skilled workers program:

For those interested, check here:
How Express Entry works

Supposedly 6 months or less turnaround compared to the usual year or more. Plus they'll help match you up with potential employers as the process develops.

How's the software development sector in Canada? Any provinces that stand out as tech centers for young folks with a bit of experience?
Ontario, BC, and to a lesser extent Quebec exclusively due to Montreal.
 
Well I just looked it up. Being born in Syria doesn't automatically make you a Syrian citizen. Syrian citizenship is passed on by your father. As long as your father is a Syrian citizen, you claim Syrian citizenship no matter where in the world you are born or no matter where you choose to live.

My father is not a Syrian citizen so that means I'm in the clear.

It's fucking ridiculous that I even had to worry about this. Thank goodness I live in Canada and I'm proud that I voted for Trudeau.

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yeah

several of my american friends have warned me that they may just show up one day soon to Anne Frank it in my basement for a few
 
It's incredible how Canada managed to avoid the bad influence of it's southern brother this long. Good on ya. Get some better weather though. Last time I was in Vancouver it was raining all the time.

Let's talk when oleary or leitch are tapping into the same populist rhetoric and winning the minds of all of our racist parents and grandparents to get rid of all the welfare-defrauding Brown folks who never want to work because yadda yadda whatever the hell the excuse is. Bootstraps oleary is already way ahead in popularity.
 
It's incredible how Canada managed to avoid the bad influence of it's southern brother this long. Good on ya. Get some better weather though. Last time I was in Vancouver it was raining all the time.
Don't be fooled, some of these sentiments exist in Canada and are worrying strong in some people. I think it helps though that Stephen Harper took a his Conservatives on a hard right turn not too long ago, and Canadians collectively told them to GTFO.
 
Canada seems pretty good right now.

I say that from an absolute place of privilege compared to most in this country, but Canada sure seems like it represents my values better than my own land.
 
Ontario, BC, and to a lesser extent Quebec exclusively due to Montreal.

Thanks, I'll start there and do some investigating going forward. I'm 50/50 on leaving, but I might just do the application anyways and see what I can get, especially if the application is valid for 1 year.
 
This is so great to see. If things continue to escalate I'm strongly considering moving to New Zealand to join my mother and brother over there. I visit them every year but after today's news I'm worried I'll somehow be banned/restricted on travelling. Yeah I'm white, but the thought of a possible war out even New Zealand closing its borders especially to Americans is terrifying to me.
 
Well I just looked it up. Being born in Syria doesn't automatically make you a Syrian citizen. Syrian citizenship is passed on by your father. As long as your father is a Syrian citizen, you claim Syrian citizenship no matter where in the world you are born or no matter where you choose to live.

My father is not a Syrian citizen so that means I'm in the clear.

It's fucking ridiculous that I even had to worry about this. Thank goodness I live in Canada and I'm proud that I voted for Trudeau.

Actually it looks like it's a bit more complicated.

https://twitter.com/nadhimzahawi/status/825445925275500545

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@timothy_stanley What if you are British of Iraqi origin, as I am? A sad sad day to feel like a second class citizen! Sad day for the USA.

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@timothy_stanley Had confirmation that the order does apply to myself and my wife as we were both born in Iraq. Even if we are not dual Nat.

That's from a UK MP. Does Iraq confir citizenship by birth though? So either way your situation is complicated. You might be in the clear if you can't claim Syrian citizenship. But if I were you I'd just not travel to the US right now anyway, probably.
 
Trudeau is the master of saying the right things without actually making them happen. Just ask our Indigenous peoples whose communities still don't have safe drinking water.
He's a fucking sham whose actions (or lack thereof) have barely been a cut above Harper's regime.

That being said, I hope Canada views politics in a more pragmatic light than our unfortunate southern neighbours and retains him in power against an increasingly psychotic PC party.
 
I hope Canada and Scotland follow through on these tweets.

To be honest the 50,000 refugee limit that Canada has imposed seems self-limiting. Especially when you see the numbers like Germany is pulling in.
 
Justin may not be perfect, but since he's taken over from Harper he's made me extremely proud to be Canadian once again.
 
Well, I think that's bullshit. Black people have a very well documented history of persecution in the US. Fuck that.

So yea, my point stands: Aint no country saying "Hey Black Americans those cops of yours is on some bullshit...come here and live in peace not fear".

do you think you made some sort of point, with this?

it's disingenuous anyways Mammoth, you'd never relent to our sensible gun laws.
 
Feel free to come to Saskatchewan. Our winters are cold, our summers are hot, and there is like nothing to do, but hey, at least we are the most likely to survive a nuclear war since we are in the middle of nowhere.
 
After my security clearance goes through, I'm seriously going to debate applying for citizenship through their express entry for skilled workers program:

For those interested, check here:
How Express Entry works

Supposedly 6 months or less turnaround compared to the usual year or more. Plus they'll help match you up with potential employers as the process develops.

How's the software development sector in Canada? Any provinces that stand out as tech centers for young folks with a bit of experience?

Software is taking over Toronto and nearby, but it won't pay as much as in the U.S.
 
I hope Canada and Scotland follow through on these tweets.

To be honest the 50,000 refugee limit that Canada has imposed is bullshit. Especially when you see the numbers like Germany is pulling in.

Germany arguably took in too many at once. To be for immigration and those fleeing for their lives still requires sensible decisions. The issue here is outright imposing bans and being an asshole about it is an affront to human decency and morals.

Basically, it's not an all or nothing debate. I reiterate what I just said though, bans and sanctions are ridiculous. It's a powerplay which has the consequences you are now seeing unravel. It's not a "solution" anyone with a shred of knowledge or decency around immigration ever suggests. Also vetting someone on their religion is terrible for a country that supposedly values freedom of religion. Any vetting should be done on ideas, beliefs and possible history. Not your religion.

So 50,000 might seem low for a country of Canadas size (can't argue that it doesn't), but right now it's a hell of a lot better than Trump's ban. No government should be signing off on something like that. Anyone who can contribute to a country, or is fleeing and genuinely wants to live and grow up in your country should be considered regardless of where they come from.
 
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