He could also be counting DLC. There's a lot of ways that PR talk can be interpreted.
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Injustice 2 Roster Discussion & Speculation Thread
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AdaWong
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omg i loved the harley/starfire clash!To celebrate today's character reveal, for a bit of fun this morning, I decided to write some dialogue for two potential characters I would have liked to see included in this game...one of whom just so happened to be Black Canary! Regardless, here they are!
STARFIRE
INSURGENCY ALIGNED
He said biggest starting roster and biggest DLC roster of any NRS game.
Irishmantis
Member
He literally said "biggest initial roster and biggest DLC roster"
lucebuce12
Member
The 9 DLC characters for I2 are already more than MKX so that makes sense.
And who knows, they MIGHT even do more in the future.
And who knows, they MIGHT even do more in the future.
Oh, well that helps narrow things down. But that still leaves the question of the Premier Skins, but that would be a bit of a cop-out.
I'm thinking (mostly hoping) that the starting roster consists of 31 characters and that the web designer forgot to take away five locked boxes as the new bios were added. The official site went live with 11 characters and 20 locked boxes, and it's not like those locked boxes were replicated via code to fill the width of the page -- someone manually inserted 20 locked box images.
We don't know 100% yet. I'd say 28 at worst, 30 (plus Darkseid) at best. 30 is pretty appealing since we'd have an even hero/villain ratio if there are indeed two more returning villains who weren't leaked (hopefully Sinestro and Lex) plus with Darkseid and DLC we'd end up with a nice even 40 characters.
But that's the thing, is NRS really aiming for symmetry between the heroes & villains? And if we do get 30, there's still glaring omissions like Shazam (likely from another Earth) to rectify.
You know what,I give up on those beta codes.
If they're just gonna do their shitty lottery with like 5 codes, whatever. I'll move on.
I don't think they are aiming for symmetry.
This only features the Injustice world, and you have half the heroes that actually are villain, like Superman.
If they're just gonna do their shitty lottery with like 5 codes, whatever. I'll move on.
I don't think they are aiming for symmetry.
This only features the Injustice world, and you have half the heroes that actually are villain, like Superman.
Could go either way. The last game had symmetry and that's all we really have to go on at this point.
Exactly, not all of the alignments are the same in Injustice as they are in most DC comics/shows/movies.
Troubled Bat
Member
I'm really hoping Lex comes back, I wasn't a big fan of him.. But dammit, I want to customize the shit out of his armor.
The first Injustice also had villainous heroes and heroic villains, but the character select screen was still divided between 12 traditional heroes and 12 traditional villains.
Irishmantis
Member
Yeah he saids it at exactly 10:35 for anybody interested https://www.youtube.com/shared?ci=Gh6W8wiWiGQ
Yeah, I'm pretty confident they'll aim for symmetry in this regard for the base roster. The DLC in the first Injustice kinda threw it off, but you can tell they still tried to make it work.
Well no.
The first injustice had both worlds so every "hero" was still a hero in the game, despite having evil counterparts, and vice versa.
Here there is only one world, the Injustice one.
There's no "good" Superman.
As far as we know at least, could be wrong obviously.
LordOfLore
Banned
I don't know enough about the backstories, but it's possible?
Red Arremer
Member
Might want to prepare a coffin inside of you then.
Batman and Green Arrow both were good in both universes. Flash and Shazam at the very least started showing remorse for their actions as part of the Regime. We never see Injustice-world Joker, but he's clearly evil. So are Sinestro, Black Adam, Killer Frost and the likes. Catwoman still did her own thing and pursued Batman first and foremost. Ares was the same character across both universes.
So while plenty of characters were mirrored to be the opposite alignment, just as many weren't.
That's not my point.
My point was that in the original injustice, you can set "good vs evil" because every character had at least one representation of their "original" alignment.
In Injustice 2, they only have the Injustice alignments. Superman is only bad in this, while in Injustice 1, he had good and evil parts. Wonder woman is also evil etc...
Yes, Injustice Superman is a bad guy, but NRS knows that most people consider him a hero. The roster is probably constructed with the traditional alignments in mind. Assuming the leaked roster is legitimate, we're getting 15 traditional heroes and 14 traditional villains on day one. I don't think that's a coincidence.
Even among the characters without bios on the official site, the split is perfectly clean.
Old heroes (3) - Green Lantern, Cyborg, Green Arrow
Old villains (3) - The Joker, Catwoman, Black Adam
New heroes (3) - Firestorm, Swamp Thing, Doctor Fate
New villains (3) - Scarecrow, Cheetah, Captain Cold
Red Arremer
Member
Right. I just meant to clarify that not all characters in Injustice 1 had opposite alignments.
Though I don't think that the plot of the storymode and its background will be relevant if NRS were to have a hero/villain spread. Superman would still be on the good side, and I think he will be depicted as regular Superman within the matches rather than Regime dictator Supes - that would stay to story mode only. I sincerely doubt NRS would step outside of the traditional alignments for any sorting.
Marvel
could never
I love how he comes out in handcuffs. Jesus I just want to play lol
Red Arremer
Member
I might be wrong with this, but I don't think that is going to be the default Superman VO. I believe that they will have Regime Superman with different dialogue when you equip the Regime outfit, much like how Cyborg Superman or Yellow Lantern got different voice acting, intros and outros in Injustice 1, although they occupied the same slot and played the same.
This doesn't work like Injustice 1.
There's only one Superman, you just equip different parts on him. None change his dialogs or intros so far.
Saves them a bit of work for sure.
I just played two rounds and got my ass kicked both times. I feel like the only way to enjoy fighting games is to already be good lol. Like I attempt to figure out button combos but in the middle of me getting my ass kicked and nothing happening for me I just start button mashing to make sure they don't get a flawless kill on me.
Do you have Injustice 1 ? I suggest training Superman in this, then you're good to go !
I have no fighting game experience at all. I played the new killer instinct for an hour that's the most experience I've got. I started with Supergirl and then Batman. I guess I'll try Superman now. I might have to watch some tutorials on basic moves. I've always wanted to be decent at a fighting game.
Well here is the thing.
Don't get too discouraged.
This Beta isn't a demo, it's a very exclusive beta, and a majority of die hard fans got in, then some lucky people like you.
So most of those people are already good, and Injustice is the kind of game that leaves you virtually no chance if you fight somebody that is good and you're just starting. (because you don't learn anything from getting perma combo'd to death)
I suggest watching Superman tutorials on youtube, he is a pretty straightforward character and has a lot of tools to help cover most situations.
Try to watch the original Injustice tutorial too, to learn the basics.
Don't let that discourage you. It's very similar to the first game, which people are very familiar with and this beta just dumps you into vs mode, so it's setting you up for a beatdown, especially if you haven't learned the game yet. Fighters take a while to learn the basics, even if you have other modes to practice with first. Don't expect to be new and win a lot.
Darkseid isn't a Superman villain.
Supes got 3 characters, 4 if you include skins. Batman has already surpassed that number on just announced characters. It's fairly ridiculous.
When starting, I'd focus less on trying to perfect combos and more on basic mechanics. In example, learning to block properly makes a whole world of difference. When to block in general, when to block high and low in the middle of barrage of attacks, etc. Then you start to notice when it's safe to unblock and what attacks are negative on block which will allow you to counter attack. There's spacing, and a few other basics that you should be decent in and you'll be able to survive/win matches even without flashy combos.
Why would you expect otherwise? Batman and his cast of characters are much more popular than Superman and his cast of characters.
To the point of triple the characters? No, I wouldn't agree. They left off Supes' archnemesis whom died in the last game but brought back Batman's whom died in the last game. Nonsense.
There is a middleground between having more Batman characters and this :
Superman
Supergirl
Brainiac
Batman
Robin
Harley
Joker
Bane
Catwoman
Ivy
Mr Freeze
There should be a Batman vs Superman fighting game.
Prime Batman
New 52 Batman
Injustice Batman
Red Son Batman
Earth 2 Batman
Gaslight Batman
Vampire Batman
Yellow Lantern Batman
Pirate Batman
Nomura Batman
Rocksteady Arkham Series Batman
Speeding Bullet Clark Kent Batman
Batman '66
Batman of Zur-en-arrh
Bat-Mite
Batzarro
Owlman
Prime Superman
New 52 Superman
Injustice Superman
Red Son Superman
Earth 2 Superman
Superboy Prime
Bizarro
Ultraman
Movie costumes will be premier costumes for the prime versions. 9 more Batmen DLC, 2 Supermen.
Base roster.
Prime Batman
New 52 Batman
Injustice Batman
Red Son Batman
Earth 2 Batman
Gaslight Batman
Vampire Batman
Yellow Lantern Batman
Pirate Batman
Nomura Batman
Rocksteady Arkham Series Batman
Speeding Bullet Clark Kent Batman
Batman '66
Batman of Zur-en-arrh
Bat-Mite
Batzarro
Owlman
Prime Superman
New 52 Superman
Injustice Superman
Red Son Superman
Earth 2 Superman
Superboy Prime
Bizarro
Ultraman
Movie costumes will be premier costumes for the prime versions. 9 more Batmen DLC, 2 Supermen.
Base roster.
I agree that Lex needs to be back, but Batman has way more popular, well-known villains than Superman.
Mr. Freeze is probably a skin.
I forgot Scarecrow, so joke's on you.
Lex
Zod
Doomsday
Superboy
edit :
oh Misread.
Just Superboy then.
And Faora maybe to get another strong female.
Because of how much people have been able to familiarize themselves with them thanks to tv, games, and movies. Quickly, any Batman fan, can you give me the real name of one of the Clayfaces? How about Professor Pig? What is Bane's motivation for going after Batman these days? People know the Timmverse, the movies, and little else but they were given many chances to learn and become fans of this character. I always ask: does DC push Batman because he's popular or is he popular because DC pushes him? I also say, what more hype is Bane gonna bring to the Batman fanbase? Batman, Robin, Joker, Ivy, Harley, Scarecrow as DLC. Appeases a vast majority of the casual fanbase without being a third of the roster.
Any others? Mr. Mxyzptlk?
I never followed Superman aside from Super Friends/Super Powers and the movies, but I tend to agree that the Batman characters are much,much more well-known. Seems like a huge drop off after Lex/Brainiac and any of the Legion of Doom characters. The balance doesn't seem that unreasonable to me based on recognition.
Considering I1 batman characters are coming back, why aren't Zod Lex and Doomsday back ? Everybody knows them.
You're telling me people don't know Kneel before Zod and Lex Luthor ? And Doomsday being, for most casual, the thing that sort of "killed" Superman.
Hell they included Brainiac.
And I REALLY wanted this guy :
His story was sad in the injustice comics.