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PS4 System Software Update 4.50 Features Detailed
- Thread starter madmackem
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Miggytronz
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I've got my pulse headset dongle in itIt is perfect for a USB drive. Guess I'll be sticking the dongle back in the front...
Yeah that dongle can be a bit obnoxious. I have the Pulse elite and that sticks about 2" from the port. I see someone mentioned a USB hub. I've never tried that despite having one on my PC for ages. I might try it.
Darkkahn
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It'll format the entire thing, even if there are multiple partitions.
Shao Kahn Brewing a Stew
Banned
Not sure if this was posted it talked about, but you can now directly upload/download save data by pressing options on the game itself! Looks so slick! No more running to settings all the time now!
thoseAREmySHOES
Member
Anyone else having trouble getting the PS4 to recognize the full size of internal hard drives put into a USB 3.0 enclosure? I'm using a 1TB drive, and I've tried with two different enclosures and it says the max size is like 50MB.
For reference, these are the exact two enclosures I tried, both of which successfully work on PC, one I have tested that works on Xbox One: Sabrent and ORICO
For reference, these are the exact two enclosures I tried, both of which successfully work on PC, one I have tested that works on Xbox One: Sabrent and ORICO
Audioboxer
Member
Yeah, I wish it just worked with the BT in the system. I guess the Pulse headset is a bit older now. I just don't see any point in upgrading because the headset works fine! Do all the new Sony headsets still have silly dongles?
Unknown?
Member
You could use a USB hub on the back.I've got my pulse headset dongle in it
*edit beaten
thatJohann
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Have there been any speed tests of external HDD drives vs stock ps4 pro drive?
DriftingSpirit
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Roughly a month from now based on past beta/launch periods.
RedAssedApe
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Windle Poons
Made a crappy phPBB forum once ... once.
For the full roll out? Probably this time next month at a guess.
George Claw M.D.
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I don't have the beta fw, but I have a powered Anker USB hub plugged into the back of my Pro. I don't use the front USB ports at all, and just plug everything into the hub, and everything works flawlessly as far as I can tell. I have plugged-in: PSVR, several micro and mini USB cords for charging various controllers and devices, a portable USB 3.0 HDD for watching videos on PS4, and Skull Candy PLYR1 wireless headset base. I enable the option to supply power to the USB ports when PS4 is in rest mode, so I can still charge things even when I'm not using the PS4. Works great.
Maintenance
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I gotta know something from those that already have the firmware: after using the external HDD with the PS4, can you use it for something else too? Or the console eats everything up?
I'm asking this because my whole Vita library is in my external HD, and I can temporarily move it so I can format and get things running, but I would like to keep it mobile, which means inside my external HDD.
I'm asking this because my whole Vita library is in my external HD, and I can temporarily move it so I can format and get things running, but I would like to keep it mobile, which means inside my external HDD.
Only usable with PS4
Maintenance
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Well, shit. Thanks.
I'm sad I wasn't able to get into the beta, my 2TB drive is so full it's actually stopped me from buying new games on PSN. I cleaned up my 4TB Western Digital external and it's now sitting near my PS4 waiting for the update to come out. Being able to use an external HD was the only feature I've been dying for Sony to implement. Everything else (like boost mode) is just gravy.
TGO
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I think USB 3.0 draws enough power on it's own not to need an external power supply, we'll see
Thanks anyway.
GrayFoxPL
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Ok, thanks.
Okay so I have the exact same Orico enclosure hooked up to my PS4 right now. I had no problem with it recognizing my 1 TB drive after reformatting the entire HD in exFat format with my PC.
Do you have multiple partitions on the drive? Someone mentioned the PS4 wipes all existing partitions out when formatting new drives.
As far as I know all of them do but the Gold and up versions have a smaller dongle.
Grim Patron
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I had no idea USB hubs were supported. Front ports on normal launch PS4?
RedAssedApe
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boost mode won't matter for psvr. pretty sure they won't even certify your game if it runs poorly due to frame rate being way more important in vr games due to motion sickness
Pejo
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Man, I was super pumped for 3D movies in PSVR, and it's kinda cool, no doubt.
My big gripe though, it doesn't also display on the TV. Normally that's not a huge deal, but I have my surround sound going out from my TV, so I didn't have to use a switch. This means I can't get the sound to go through my speakers when I'm watching a movie on PSVR.
It still works with headphones, but man that's a lot of contraptions on your head just to watch a movie.
Anyone have any other ideas for this?
My big gripe though, it doesn't also display on the TV. Normally that's not a huge deal, but I have my surround sound going out from my TV, so I didn't have to use a switch. This means I can't get the sound to go through my speakers when I'm watching a movie on PSVR.
It still works with headphones, but man that's a lot of contraptions on your head just to watch a movie.
Anyone have any other ideas for this?
holygeesus
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There is a slight, *slight* increase in fan operation when playing using Boost Mode, for me, but that is understandable considering games are no longer being down-clocked. I'm guessing it will likely vary from game to game, as it would on PC.
I have a HDD caddy on the way, which I am going to pair with a spare SSD I have knocking around, to see how fast games run from external SSD.
I have a HDD caddy on the way, which I am going to pair with a spare SSD I have knocking around, to see how fast games run from external SSD.
anyone know if there's a way to use one hard drive for both apps and data? smart partitioning perhaps?
I'm excited about external hdd support but after playing with 4.50 beta it looks like you can't have a HDD both store data (like saves and media and so on) as well as applications. That's pretty annoying.
I'm excited about external hdd support but after playing with 4.50 beta it looks like you can't have a HDD both store data (like saves and media and so on) as well as applications. That's pretty annoying.
Jailer of Hope
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Game saves don't copy over with game installs?
thoseAREmySHOES
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Single partition, freshly reformatted to NTFS. I'll try exFAT.
miller.skippins
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my current OG PS4 is installed with a 1TB SSHD.....maybe after this update, i will get another 480GB SSD and install/move all the games that i frequently play (Doom, UC4, BB, DS3, SFV) to it...while other games that i frequent less will be on my internal drive.
EdReedFan20
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Oh, neat. I'm guessing it just shows one of the two images that make up the 3D.
Broadbandito
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HueyFreeman
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Not sure if this was posted it talked about, but you can now directly upload/download save data by pressing options on the game itself! Looks so slick! No more running to settings all the time now!
That's an awesome improvement, works more like the vita, was pretty tucked away before
EdReedFan20
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Well, no. PS4 uses FAT32 and exFAT. Whereas PC's use NTFS. However, you can use it for PC again, but you'd lose your PS4 content in the process (and it would no longer be compatible with PS4).
http://www.ryli.net/how-to-format-an-external-hard-drive-for-ps4/
According to this, though, you might want to format it as exFAT. The article says FAT32 does allow files over 4GB in size. Many PS4 games (digital or disc based) are larger than that. exFAT, however allows for files sizes up to 16EB (that's exabyte).
if I use exFAT and the PS4 uses it, can I still use it to store files for the PC?
TLZ
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Not sure if this was posted it talked about, but you can now directly upload/download save data by pressing options on the game itself! Looks so slick! No more running to settings all the time now!
Yes I love this too. The simpler they make things, the better.
AbandonedTrolley
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Yeah it works pretty good and as mentioned quality in Cinematic mode was also improved in the BETA too. 3D effect is nice and gives me a way to watch my blurays again without needing to go upstairs to watch them.
ScaryShark
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As someone with two consoles, this is a Godsend. Omg. Thank you for pointing this out.Not sure if this was posted it talked about, but you can now directly upload/download save data by pressing options on the game itself! Looks so slick! No more running to settings all the time now!
No, I meant it is showing the normal 3D image on the HDTV (the same double image on the VR unit). Viewers will need 3D glasses to enjoy the HDTV feed if you have the PSVR on.
Stoffinator
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I also noticed that it now tells you when your friends were last on which system. So like PS3, Vita etc.
RocknRola
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Not sure if this was posted it talked about, but you can now directly upload/download save data by pressing options on the game itself! Looks so slick! No more running to settings all the time now!
That's cool! Not that it was hard before or anything, but that'll save us some time for sure!
Plus it does look great (and simple, which is also important).
I posted this in another thread but I'll post it here in case the thread is lost:
I don't have a stock HDD in my PS4, I think I have the recommended 2TO seagate.
Anyweay since I haven't seen tests here I did a little test with Bloodborne after I bought an external WD Elements 2TO. Tests are approximate since I did it manually with my phone, but it can give you a small idea. It was done accessing Bloodborne's main hub in offline mode.
Internal normal mode: 11.91 sec
Internal boost mode: 11.32 sec
External normal mode: 10.66 sec
External boost mode: 10.14 sec
So if my tests are correct, there's a very small gain when you activate boost mode, and a more significant, yet still small, one when a game is on this particular external HDD.
In the worst case out of a 12 seconds loading I save one second and a half when activating boost and being on external.
It's around 15% faster.
I don't have a stock HDD in my PS4, I think I have the recommended 2TO seagate.
Anyweay since I haven't seen tests here I did a little test with Bloodborne after I bought an external WD Elements 2TO. Tests are approximate since I did it manually with my phone, but it can give you a small idea. It was done accessing Bloodborne's main hub in offline mode.
Internal normal mode: 11.91 sec
Internal boost mode: 11.32 sec
External normal mode: 10.66 sec
External boost mode: 10.14 sec
So if my tests are correct, there's a very small gain when you activate boost mode, and a more significant, yet still small, one when a game is on this particular external HDD.
In the worst case out of a 12 seconds loading I save one second and a half when activating boost and being on external.
It's around 15% faster.