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[GeoNeo]

I'm totally down for this. Having the various communities fight it out gladiatorial style for the right to survive is great entertainment, and it'd kill off weaker games like the WB and Anime games. Hell, don't even bother with the charity shit and just have it all go directly into Wiz's bank account. Sell it as crowdfunding EVO. It'd be great.

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I'm completely serious

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Pipe dream I bet the only game that did not pay to be in someway for evo line up this year was Smash because Nintendo cheaper than even MrWizad.

 

[Sinatar]

Regardless of who wins, I sure as shit am not waking up at 8 am to watch it.

 

[vg260]

It's a weird thing because it's ultimately for charity, but I feel like it kind of directly undercuts the idea of Evo being a community thing when this is just directly pitting communities against each other. It doesn't really bother me but it feels like this is just Evo staff using this as a cop out to avoid getting shit from communities about their game not being included. People are STILL salty about the last one from years ago, and it's going to happen again this time (especially if Marvel doesn't make it). It's kind of messy and I don't think they should go down this route again honestly.

I get that, but Evo and the fighting genre is also about head-to-head competition with the goal of defeating your opponent and people relish in making their opponent salty, right? No one likes to lose, yet people still compete in these games. It's the nature of the beast. If they can't embrace the competitive spirit for something that goes to a good cause perhaps it's a good lesson in perspective.

 

[Professor Beef]

This is also (and I'd say more) about what people are going to watch being played at EVO and the Sunday finals at the arena.

I mean, your post is just some disingenuous shit and I'm not sure if I should take it seriously. I don't play any of these games, I'm certainly not going to play them at EVO, so at least, to me, being spectating friendly matters.

It's not disingenuous, I'm being 100% sincere. I've always been of the mind that people who actually compete at the tournament should come before people who only watch.

 

[SalvaPot]

Regardless of who wins, I sure as shit am not waking up at 8 am to watch it.

lol.

I am sure no one thought about this until now.

 

[Dahbomb]

I get that, but Evo and the fighting genre is also about head-to-head competition with the goal of defeating your opponent and people relish in making their opponent salty, right? No one likes to lose, yet people still compete in these games. It's the nature of the beast. If they can't embrace the competitive spirit for something that goes to a good cause perhaps it's a good lesson in perspective.

EVO is about embracing head to head competition based on skill not based on bigger wallets.

Hell I would be MUCH more in favor of Pokken vs Marvel 3 community in various games. At least then it would be a game of skill.

 

[GeoNeo]

It's not disingenuous, I'm being 100% sincere. I've always been of the mind that people who actually compete at the tournament should come before people who only watch.

Have you been to a recent Evo? Where they put viewers first and people at the tournament competing second.

 

[A Pretty Panda]

It's not disingenuous, I'm being 100% sincere. I've always been of the mind that people who actually compete at the tournament should come before people who only watch.

The money donated here makes no distinction so it doesn't matter at all.

 

[Pop-O-Matic]

We're seeing the "game of skill" through the donation streams and t-shirt drives and the like. It's not about who has the deeper pockets, but who can get their base fired up enough to donate and donate a lot.

 

[JeTmAn81]

People in this thread...

 

[Professor Beef]

Have you been to a recent Evo? Where they put viewers first and people at the tournament competing second.

Yes, the last several years in fact. Stream viewers should always come second to the actual tournament players.

 

[vg260]

EVO is about embracing head to head competition based on skill not based on bigger wallets.

Sure, but given the fact that this is all going to charity takes a lot of the edge out of that argument. If this was all going for profit, then yeah, I think it would be a more significant debate.

 

[Pop-O-Matic]

Yes, the last several years in fact. Stream viewers should always come second to the actual tournament players.

Then why are you supporting a game that people at EVO are going to play over a game that no one is gonna play?

 

[Professor Beef]

Then why are you supporting a game that people at EVO are going to play over a game that no one is gonna play?

Because I like Pokken.

 

[Pop-O-Matic]

Because I like Pokken.

Are you going to EVO? Because if not, they you're being hypocritical.

 

[lvl99 Pixel]

how E-Sports does this have to get before broadcasting appeal takes 100% priority?

 

[AAK]

I think it's pretty safe to say both MvC and Pokken will make EVO just like SG and Smash did the last time there was a near 2 way tie.

 

[Lothars]

Because I like Pokken.

Do you like playing pokken or watching it? It's a fun game to play but it's a terrible game to watch.

 

[Pop-O-Matic]

I think it's pretty safe to say both MvC and Pokken make EVO just like SG and Smash did the last time there was a near 2 way tie.

It wasn't a tie. Smash destroyed them by over $10k, and Skullgirls only got an exhibition.

 

[SargerusBR]

Gap went from $500 to $800

MAHVEL BAYBEE

 

[Josh5890]

One way or other the salt will be flowing around here 48 hours from now.

 

[lvl99 Pixel]

One way or other the salt will be flowing around here 48 hours from now.

oh that soon? gonna reminds some friends to vote.
We're already getting another MvC this year, Pokkens the first game of its franchise with lots of potential that might get squandered if its not evidently supported on this scale.

 

[Daouzin]

When's the last day to vote? I looked at the donation site and didn't see any expiration date.

 

[AAK]

Not getting into a semantics argument. Both communities will almost certainly be given representation at evo.

 

[Pop-O-Matic]

Not getting into a semantics argument. Both communities will almost certainly be given representation at evo.

Nah, they gave Skullgirls the exhibition because it was a up-and-coming game that was being made and supported by members of the FGC. Pokken's a filler release by two companies that don't give a fuck about it anymore. Plus, even if it were to get something like an exhibition, that's still a lot less representation and exposure than having the game on all day on one of the main EVO streams as they grind through the bracket.

 

[lvl99 Pixel]

Nah, they gave Skullgirls the exhibition because it was a up-and-coming game that was being made and supported by members of the FGC. Pokken's a filler release by two companies that don't give a fuck about it anymore. Plus, even if it were to get something like an exhibition, that's still a lot less representation and exposure than having the game on all day on one of the main EVO streams as they grind through the bracket.

Thats also part of why this is important. A pokemon fighting game is such a perfect fit, and was off to a good start (and sold decently afaik?). Showing support for a new franchise with a lot of potential would lend itself well to a possible Switch version and arcade sequels. MvC Infinite would have already been a shoe in if it were released in time for EVO.

 

[Neoxon]

Lythero is doing a charity stream for UMvC3 tonight. Lythero's doing a Ranked Match run (Any Rank, Any Region) where he donates $5 for every win & $20 for every loss.

 

[Pop-O-Matic]

Thats also part of why this is important. A pokemon fighting game is such a perfect fit, and was off to a good start (and sold decently afaik?). Showing support for a new franchise with a lot of potential would lend itself well to a possible Switch version and arcade sequels. MvC Infinite would have already been a shoe in if it were released in time for EVO.

I'd rather support a game that's good (MvC) over a game that's garbage (Pokken), thank you.

 

[BronsonLee]

Lythero is doing a charity stream for UMvC3 tonight. Lythero's doing a Ranked Match run (Any Rank, Any Region) where he donates $5 for every win & $20 for every loss.

Quick, someone go to his house and start torrenting on his wifi

 

[lvl99 Pixel]

I'd rather support a game that's good over a game that's garbage, thank you.

You're welcome to an opinion, but presenting it as fact like that is immature.

 

[WonderRade]

Thats also part of why this is important. A pokemon fighting game is such a perfect fit, and was off to a good start (and sold decently afaik?). Showing support for a new franchise with a lot of potential would lend itself well to a possible Switch version and arcade sequels. MvC Infinite would have already been a shoe in if it were released in time for EVO.

Pokken is currently sitting on 4 brand new characters that the majority of the populace have yet to play. Whatever form they decide to

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release these is the support it will get.

 

[Dahbomb]

Marvel 3 about to break the coveted $20k mark.

Let's GET IT!!!!!

 

[FadedRevolution]

Marvel 3 about to break the coveted $20k mark.

Let's GET IT!!!!!

Just broke $20,000

 

[SargerusBR]

TWENTY


THOUSAND


DOLLARS

 

[Dahbomb]

Based on projections from last time, I think the final score will end up being around $50K for either game. We are about roughly 40% through the donation.

 

[SomedayTheFire]

Mortal Kombat is killing it

 

[lvl99 Pixel]

Pokken is currently sitting on 4 brand new characters that the majority of the populace have yet to play. Whatever form they decide to

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release these is the support it will get.

It was a financial success (on wiiu no less), and with expected players regularly making top8 placings a competitive success too. They would be out of their minds to just do the one game and thats all, especially if Switch sells as well as projected.

 

[Dahbomb]

The funny part is that if Marvel 3 actually wins this, the EVO for it might have the highest payout of them all. Marvel 3 has consistently been one of the least money hatted game at EVO with no pot bonuses from Marvel/Capcom due to licensing issues. The game is going to have a substantial pot bonus added to it from the charity ($10K I believe).

 

[WonderRade]

It was a financial success (on wiiu no less), and with expected players regularly making top8 placings a competitive success too. They would be out of their minds to just do the one game and thats all, especially if Switch sells as well as projected.

My hope is that once mario kart is released they can focus on this as the next cool port/re-release. Pokken is severely underrated and a switch push could do wonders for it IMO. I just hope thats the road they go down, this is too good of a concept to just let die on the wiiu.

 

[Regiruler]

My hope is that once mario kart is released they can focus on this as the next cool port/re-release. Pokken is severely underrated and a switch push could do wonders for it IMO. I just hope thats the road they go down, this is too good of a concept to just let die on the wiiu.

They need to actually release content that was made within the lifespan of the game.

 

[Gorilla Blade]

Was really tempted by the Mahvel shirt drive but nah.

 

[Professor Beef]

Are you going to EVO? Because if not, they you're being hypocritical.

Money is tight, but I should be able to make it.

Do you like playing pokken or watching it? It's a fun game to play but it's a terrible game to watch.

Both, but I don't have a lot of time to watch much of anything these days.

 

[QisTopTier]

Do you like playing pokken or watching it? It's a fun game to play but it's a terrible game to watch.

Good players are not boring to watch at all

 

[lvl99 Pixel]

Good players are not boring to watch at all

dont worry too much about these people. Theyre the same ones who think smash is boring because they dont understand what theyre looking at.

 

[DryEyeRelief]

I think Player's Choice was constructed to weasel UMvC3 into top honors for another year.


When you think about what's awarded to the game that wins, they're things that directly concern Marvel players. Marvel players feel entitled to appearing on Sunday for instance. Pokken doesn't. KI doesn't. And Evo is going out of their way to make sure player's choice is on Sunday over newer games like KOF and Injustice.

And the pot bonus. If Pokken and KI won then there's a chance that publishers could contribute that themselves. Marvel on the other hand, guaranteed to need it.

 

[Seyavesh]

I think Player's Choice was constructed to weasel UMvC3 into top honors for another year.


When you think about what's awarded to the game that wins, they're things that directly concern Marvel players. Marvel players feel entitled to appearing on Sunday for instance. Pokken doesn't. KI doesn't. And Evo is going out of their way to make sure player's choice is on Sunday over newer games like KOF and Injustice.

And the pot bonus. If Pokken and KI won then there's a chance that publishers could contribute that themselves. Marvel on the other hand, guaranteed to need it.

oh shit welcome back

where the hell have you been

 

[bman94]

I'd rather support a game that's good (MvC) over a game that's garbage (Pokken), thank you.

Wow...WOW

 

[CommandThrower]

I think Player's Choice was constructed to weasel UMvC3 into top honors for another year.


When you think about what's awarded to the game that wins, they're things that directly concern Marvel players. Marvel players feel entitled to appearing on Sunday for instance. Pokken doesn't. KI doesn't. And Evo is going out of their way to make sure player's choice is on Sunday over newer games like KOF and Injustice.

And the pot bonus. If Pokken and KI won then there's a chance that publishers could contribute that themselves. Marvel on the other hand, guaranteed to need it.

That's an interesting theory, but it makes me wonder why Evo staff wouldn't have just put up Marvel 3 on the merit that the series itself has been at EVO back when it known as "Battle by the Bay". You ain't never going to see a new Street Fighter game on one of these EVO donation drives, but Marvel did end up being in one.


EDIT: A Street Fighter game not being on a main EVO lineup, and instead having a spot up to a donation drive.

 

[A Pretty Panda]

So marvel can "earn" it's spot on sunday instead of people bitching it gets placed on sunday instead.

Jokes on them people are going to bitch anyways

 

[PartTimeWarrior]

Yoooo mahvel