SFV: Kolin Reveal Trailer

Bison had white eyes (a trend with strong intimidating characters) a dictator theme going on and his evil grin. He doesn't look like the average Joe at all.
Meanwhile Kolin is just a blondie with random ice magic.

About the fighting stile, we can't guess Claw's neither. him and Dictator were bosses in SF II. They had to look more intimidating than true to martial arts.
Are you making these rules up as we go?
 
Yeah reading. Because that's totally what SF is about.

You and the others are missing the point of SF's character design. Characters' look is (was) built around a given martial art or famous real life martial artist.
Players could recognize the given martial arts just by looking at the fighters. Ryu is the karate guy, fat asian is sumo, and so on.
If you look at Yun you immediatly know he's kung fu. You don't have to read anything.

Some poster above me (explaining that better than I could) pointed out what's the logic in the SF world: energy balls and supermatural stuff come from martial arts training. There are few exceptions (psycho power and such) but still those exeptions are mild compared to ice spamming.

Also I would point out that fire represent ki way better than ice element.
Burning effect is given to represent intense Ki moves, like Ken's shoryuken, Ryu's shakunetsu or Fei's anti-air.
What about ice? Does it look like ki to you? It looks more like magic to me than something tied with martial arts.

Also Kolin brokes a trend with SF: when there's some weird power, it affect the character appearance. A character can have a super power obtained because plot but have to actually look mutated (Blanka, Necro, Gill etc.) or have some weird thing going on (Juri's eye, Viper's suit etc.).

I say Kolin's design is pretty weak.
She's just some random anime girl with magic powers. Guys at Capcom know SF's legacy can't allow that. That's why they bothered with that System thing AFTER they gave her magic powers.

How does Rose look weird?
How does Bison look weird?

lmao, Bison's evil grin is a weird trait? haha.
 
You and the others are missing the point of SF's character design. Characters' look is (was) built around a given martial art or famous real life martial artist.
Players could recognize the given martial arts just by looking at the fighters. Ryu is the karate guy, fat asian is sumo, and so on.
If you look at Yun you immediatly know he's kung fu. You don't have to read anything.

Actually, Kolin's fighting stance is a good representation of Systema according to Damascus (well known European FGC player/announcer):
https://twitter.com/zDamascus/status/829730836765405185
 
Dhalsim can stretch his limbs, float, teleport, and breathe (mental) fire
Ryu's V-Trigger lets him randomly throw balls of electricity and perform electric uppercuts
Urien can throw metallic spheres and summon weird metallic/glass barriers
F.A.N.G has an endless supply of poison at his disposal
Blanka is a regular human being whose skin turned green from living in the jungle
Rashid can create cyclones

...But ice? Ice?! Capcom has some nerve ruining the sanctity of Street Fighter with that unrealistic garbage.
 
Dhalsim can stretch his limbs, float, teleport, and breathe (mental) fire
Ryu's V-Trigger lets him randomly throw balls of electricity and perform electric uppercuts
Urien can throw metallic spheres and summon weird metallic/glass barriers
F.A.N.G has an endless supply of poison at his disposal
Blanka is a regular human being whose skin turned green from living in the jungle
Rashid can create cyclones

...But ice? Ice?! Capcom has some nerve ruining the sanctity of Street Fighter with that unrealistic garbage.

How could a human being possibly produce ice without machinery?! It's absurd! I demand a Street Fighter be kept pure!

Seriously though, how has a Street Fighter not had an ice character already?
 
How could a human being possibly produce ice without machinery?! It's absurd! I demand a Street Fighter be kept pure!

Seriously though, how has a Street Fighter not had an ice character already?

This is what I'm asking right now.

Kind of crazy when you think about it.
 
Dhalsim can stretch his limbs, float, teleport, and breathe (mental) fire
Ryu's V-Trigger lets him randomly throw balls of electricity and perform electric uppercuts
Urien can throw metallic spheres and summon weird metallic/glass barriers
F.A.N.G has an endless supply of poison at his disposal
Blanka is a regular human being whose skin turned green from living in the jungle
Rashid can create cyclones

...But ice? Ice?! Capcom has some nerve ruining the sanctity of Street Fighter with that unrealistic garbage.
The lengths people will go to when trying to shit on SFV.
 
90% of Street Fighter character designs were robbed from Jojo anyway.
I don't think it's as many as you'd think (or as many or I would want).
  • Guile = Stroheim
  • Rose = Lisa Lisa
  • Juri = Jolyne Kujo
  • Urien, Gill, Necalli = The Pillar Men
 
Did they mention this anywhere or is that just some "I'm an expert" thing of knowing Japanese? Because Kolin is a 20 year old character and that would be on hell of a foresight.

It seems to be more of convenience in coming up with her moveset. "So what should we have her do?" "Well she has 'ice' in her name..." "Sure, why not".
 
SF3 did a lot of good things for a lot of characters.

Chun Li really became what she is today thanks to her 3S design. It's pretty clear that Capcom really loves that Chun Li, too. Every new Chun since 1999 has been based on 3S Chun, not SF2 or Alpha Chun.

They're almost totally different people:
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I mean...Bison? Rose?

Psycho Power has nothing to do with Martial Arts, and neither does its opposite (soul power).

I know that. I even mentioned that in my post.

Yes, this is a series where people shoot energy balls and can teleport if they use yoga, but the series has always been framed around these being connected to martial arts mastery (i.e. Ryu and Ken weren't born throwing hadokens; they had to dedicate their lives to that shit first), with some subversions (some serious, like Necro and Viper, some non-serious like Blanka; also worth mentioning that Bison and Gill fall into this category as actual super-powered beings).


It's been mentioned, but Kolin is a Systema expert who has been given ice powers by Gill. She's still primarily a martial arts character. I don't see how her fighting style is any more outlandish than Ryu being able to augment his attacks with electricity or Ken with fire, or how F.A.N.G has an endless supply of poison at his disposal.

consider this, she breaks the flow of any kind of ki around her linbs and can manipulate it. basically sucking out energy/blocking it out of a space. ergo creating cold.

lets also add the last airbender aproach and let her pull the h2o from the air. (just in mindblowing amounts)

you can make it work if you dont wanna pick to many holes. just like with the rest of these "martial arts". :P

I think y'all are misunderstanding my post.

I mentioned all of that stuff because people were going "but SF has always been about super powered characters" when that's only partially true (it is about superhuman feats, but in a way that's generally grounded by martial arts).

I mentioned that Kolin probably falls into category of characters that has powers that aren't necessarily achieved through their martial arts (and turns out that was true, she knows a martial art, but her ice powers aren't because she's a master of systema, it's because Gill gave them to her). But I was ONLY pointing that out (and I even pointed out that the series already has its fair share of characters like that, in particular, SF's main villains)

I did NOT (intend to) say that Kolin wasn't a real fighter because she falls into that second category. I don't even agree with MPU's initial point about Kolin (I think it's pretty obvious she's a femme fatale type character from SFV's story mode and is not some random anime magic girl).

I mentioned my dislike for her, that's for other reasons (I personally feel like she's a forced/unnecessary pick. I know that fighting butlers are a thing but I still just feels like this is another unnecessary fanservice similar ot GOuken). I don't have a problem if anyone else happens to like her.
 
Wow, she can do her double jump from a neutral jump. I can already tell she's gonna be a very tricky character lol

And it looks like the icicle she jumps off of could be a projectile. Would have been cool if you could do it backwards too, but that's probably asking too much.
 
All of the DLC have a lot more options than most of the initial cast. They might not be top tier, but they feel more fully fleshed out as characters.

Kolin sounds great.
 
That's weird...she actually has a lot of moves.

Yet, her character chart only gives her a 2 for "techniques".

Low 'techniques' ratings are supposed to signify characters who DON'T have a lot of moves...

Isn't that stat high for characters like Akuma and Karin? They've got moves where you have to do quick double inputs, so that's probably why. More moves doesn't really mean harder to use.
 
SF3 did a lot of good things for a lot of characters.

Chun Li really became what she is today thanks to her 3S design. It's pretty clear that Capcom really loves that Chun Li, too. Every new Chun since 1999 has been based on 3S Chun, not SF2 or Alpha Chun.

They're almost totally different people:
SSF2T_Chun-Li.gif
EVSx749.gif

Looks like one of those bad/good posture comparisons.
 
Isn't that stat high for characters like Akuma and Karin? They've got moves where you have to do quick double inputs, so that's probably why. More moves doesn't really mean harder to use.

According to Combofiend, it means the number of moves a character has:
"Techniques refers to the number of moves a character has. If a character has a lot of manual attacks, or they have a lot of special moves then their techniques line is a bit longer than others."
https://www.eventhubs.com/news/2015...ice-can-help-you-pinpoint-your-perfect-match/

Also, the Japanese site uses "技数" for the "Techniques" stat...and "技数" literally means "number of techniques."

I dunno...maybe she changed a lot after they finished her diagram or something, lol...
 
It's pretty good. Y'all are blind or just have really picky taste in women that you project onto your video games.

I get that people can find her attracting and I've no problems with that. I just don't share that view.
That nose + These poppin' out eyes + Her whole face model just isn't working for me.
 
It's...always been that way though?

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Ken's half-Japanese; he dyes his hair blonde.

But... That's always been that way. He's not a natural blonde.

Well that is actually how it should be and has always been?

He dyes his hair. It's naturally black.

That's always been the case. Ken's 3/4 Japanese with his hair dyed blonde.
Don't get me wrong, I get that is accurate to his design. I just don't like it and have never liked it. It's always bugged the hell out of me, so I'd mod the living daylights out of it.
 
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