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[Diprosalic]

I still am not sure what he actually did. From the clips I saw someone held up a sign in a video he was reacting to on a stream?

there's a website (fiverr.com) where you can pay people to do various stuff for you, two guys are offering a service to hold up a sign and laugh.
he submitted outrageous and offensive ideas ("death to all jews) to them and a couple others and expected all of them to deny his requests, most of them did, those two didn't and he was very surprised and shocked that they actually went trough with it.

that's my neutral write up of what happened.

 

[pinkurocket]

After all his experience being on Youtube I'm surprised he still somehow thought it would be okay to make this kinda joke. In the past he got so much critisism for making rape jokes and whatnot, which apparently he stopped doing (from what I heard). So to suddenly make a super disrespectful 'joke' like this is really baffling. Oh well, it's his own fault for being an ass.

 

[airmangataosenai]

http://www.wsj.com/video/disney-cut...pie/AF3B6886-3245-4C48-AD5D-098F1E1ABEA9.html

Ahh okay. Well then that makes more sense.

 

[shingi70]

youre right. but he has other ways of making money like those mobile games and merchandise and im sure his fans will continue to support him

Merch maybe, but it wouldn't surprise me if his mobile games are owned by Maker Studios.

 

[AAMARMO]

tumbling down, tumbling down, tumbling down.

 

[Newtype-001]

nice.
good to see yts stance on this

dead joke try again

 

[ViolentP]

It's the end of of his career as we know it. If/when it hits the national press it will have a massive effect on his brand. And with the current political climate there is every chance this could be far more damaging.

His value isn't in his contracts, it's in his number of viewers. The only way his career is over is if he loses a substantial number of viewers bringing his overall value down. As it stands, he is carrying luggage full of money and just needs a place to put it down.

 

[pagrab]

I think his explanation is dodgy. If he wanted to show the absurdity of Fiverr he should have chosen some kind of absurd sentence and not one that winks to the wrong people.

 

[Nategc20]

and he still got someone to pay for his movies and he still got recognized by the academy.
pewdiepie has 53 million subscribers in the most valuable target demo, he'll be more than fine.

Pewdiepie isn't mel gibson. Pulaski also got recognized by the academy and to prove that they are the forgiving kind, he might win the oscar.

All im saying is companies arent salivating at the idea of this dude right after a scandal.

 

[Charamiwa]

His entire career was a serious lapse in judgment lol, this shit is tame compared to some of his other videos.

Like what?

 

[Oneself]

Poor guy, he is left with his multiple millions in the bank, hard eared from being filmed when playing games.

While a part of his career is over, it may just end up into more publicity for him to start somewhere else.

 

[mullet2000]

Can someone explain what actually happened here?

Is this a case of "dude takes a bad joke way too far" is is he actually advocating anti-semetism?

 

[TylerDurden4321]

So was he "just joking"... making fun of stuff you shouldn't make fun off out of respect for the history of jewish people?

Or is this indicative of some anti-foreigner / alt-right / white supremacist thinking in the back of this guy's head??

I only watched maybe 30 minutes of him playing games in the last 2 years and would guess the former not the latter.

Does he have a history of crappy right-wing comments or "jokes"??

 

[MrBadger]

Why do I get the feeling that loads of the people who shit on Pewdiepie just for existing and being popular are suddenly going to become huge fans because of "PC culture"?

Can someone explain what actually happened here?

Is this a case of "dude takes a bad joke way too far" is is he actually advocating anti-semetism?

The first one. He made some tasteless jokes about jews and the holocaust

 

[Drillary Clinton]

Issa L, fam

 

[ViolentP]

Pewdiepie isn't mel gibson. Pulaski also got recognized by the academy and to prove that they are the forgiving kind, he might win the oscar.

All im saying is companies wont look at him like you are.

Difference is, if Gibson's value is in himself. If he devalues himself, the market will respond accordingly. With PewDiePie, businesses don't give a shit about him. They want his userbase. Even after this stunt, his userbase still has enormous value. Enough to sift through PDP's shit in order to get to it.

 

[jett]

Looks like he should have deleted his youtube channel after all!

 

[Diprosalic]

Pewdiepie isn't mel gibson. Pulaski also got recognized by the academy and to prove that they are the forgiving kind, he might win the oscar.

All im saying is companies wont look at him like you are.

he's arguably more valuable than Mel.
the situations are also very different, he clearly made a bad joke while Mel Gibson's situation was very cut and dry.

 

[Loudninja]

Sorry but inst wast just a mistake he made 9 separate videos.

 

[Felix Lighter]

The thing that is so frustrating is all those kids that think this must be funny or not a problem because their hero PewDiePie says it is. I can only imagine that pushing them towards things like the alt-right because they'll find them as an ally, defending the man.

 

[Aztechnology]

Can someone explain what actually happened here?

Is this a case of "dude takes a bad joke way too far" is is he actually advocating anti-semetism?

I guess he wanted to see what silly crap he could get people to say on a service where you pay them $5 to say things. One was "Death to all Jews." And yea. Good night sponsorships I guess.

 

[danmaku]

I don't understand why he would think wishing death in an ethnic group would be hilarious. Did he ever explain his thought process? What's with all these racist fucks coming out of the woodworks

Probably something like "all these kids posting hitler memes on twitch and 4chan will find this hilarious!".

 

[joedick]

He paid them to do it via a service where you pay money and these guys make a video where they say a message you tell them to say. Not sure if he thought they'd actually do it based on his expression.

Doesn't matter if he didn't expect them to do it. With his reach and young, impressionable viewers, he's basically encouraging them to do the same thing.

 

[GavinUK86]

Would you say you're an expert on YouTube personalities?

Yes.

 

[LiK]

Can someone explain what actually happened here?

Is this a case of "dude takes a bad joke way too far" is is he actually advocating anti-semetism?

Mainly the former but doing it multiple times makes you look like the latter especially with his massive audience of children.

So was he "just joking"... making fun of stuff you shouldn't make fun off out of respect for the history of jewish people?

Or is this indicative of some anti-foreigner / alt-right / white supremacist thinking in the back of this guy's head??

I only watched maybe 30 minutes of him playing games in the last 2 years and would guess the former not the latter.

Does he have a history of crappy right-wing comments or "jokes"??

The other article about Disney cutting ties said he did 9 similar anti-Semitic videos.

 

[Trojita]

Doesn't matter if he didn't expect them to do it. With his reach and young, impressionable viewers, he's basically encouraging them to do the same thing.

I was explaining what he did, that's it. I agree with you.

 

[Giftofgab24]

youre right. but he has other ways of making money like those mobile games and merchandise and im sure his fans will continue to support him

Those mobile games and merchandise came from his partnership with Disney. That's gone too.

 

[Teletraan1]

I don't watch him often, only if he is covering something that interests me. I know my young niece and nephew did like a religion, my sister is a bad parent.. If these companies were so pristine why didn't they drop him day one for screaming rape every 10s?

 

[Razorskin]

Does being removed from the premium ad program mean that he'll no longer get any money from his YouTube videos?

 

[Icebergslim]

And with that your 15 minutes is up. Hope you invested well.

 

[IronicSonic]

A lot of youtube personalities create the worst content on internet but they have fee-pass because views and sponsors. I expect this works like a warning

 

[Diprosalic]

Does being removed from the premium ad program mean that he'll no longer get any money from his YouTube videos?

no, just not "premium ads" that are only for the biggest youtubers, he has normal ads now.

And with that your 15 minutes is up. Hope you invested well.

his 15 minutes lasted 6 years and will for another few.
he's set for life anyway.

 

[LotusHD]

And with that your 15 minutes is up. Hope you invested well.

Was a long ass 15 minutes lol

 

[Aztechnology]

People are being silly if they think this will sink him.

 

[faridmon]

That's a shame.

He always seemed like a nice guy, but it looks like he had a serious lapse in judgement.

Hopefully he can learn a valuable lesson from this.

Yep, Like I said in the other thread, he fucked up but I hope he recognise his fault and move on to be a better person. Everyone fucks up.

But the haters will just use this as a fuel against him from now on which is a shame.

 

[TylerDurden4321]

The other article about Disney cutting ties said he did 9 similar anti-Semitic videos.

Thanks, probably good then that YT made a stance even if a little late.
Would love to know what those 9 incidents actually were though, that they didn't cause media coverage about it.

 

[LiK]

Does being removed from the premium ad program mean that he'll no longer get any money from his YouTube videos?

Separate from what I know. It's a different deal. They were reality shows made for the Premium program.

misread.

 

[Diprosalic]

Separate from what I know. It's a different deal. They were reality shows made for the Premium program.

his youtube red show and premium ad program are two different things.

 

[WilsonX100]

His fans are all alt-right types so he can have them. There defending him right now on twitter.

this is incredibly unsurprising

 

[Razorskin]

no, just not "premium ads" that are only for the biggest youtubers, he has normal ads now.



his 15 minutes lasted 6 years and will for another few.
he's set for life anyway.

Separate from what I know. It's a different deal. They were reality shows made for the Premium program.

Ah ok, I was wondering if he was totally being cut off.

 

[Zaph]

Good.

Sick to death of the normalisation of online casual racism.

 

[SomedayTheFire]

Breitbart will save his career.

 

[Belgian Dude]

I definitely don't think he should have posted the video in the end, but from what I saw on the follow-up videos (after the first one and way before the story really blew up) he genuinely didn't think they kids do it, and when the kids got banned from the site because of it, he seemed intent on setting up a GoFundMe for them to make up for their losses and contribute $500 to help them get started out, which is genuinely nice. Doesn't excuse him posting the video when he saw that the kids did say the message though, even if he highlights on the video that it's not his feelings.

Bad, bad joke and it definitely got out of hand, but he shouldn't have done it in the first place because of his impressionable audience and needs to face the consequences regarding it. Won't ruin his career completely, but it should be enough of a knock that this at least doesn't repeat itself, if it wasn't malicious.

E: this is regarding that 'fundMe' page thing, I don't know about other videos, if he has them

 

[oti]

When did fascism become so cool? PewDiePie's antics are the thin end of the wedge

Like every young star before him, it was inevitable that PewDiePie would seek to separate himself from the clean-cut image through which he found fame.

For Justin Bieber, it was tattoos and car crashes, and for the 27-year-old YouTube star most famous for his video game reviews, it was a series of anti-Semitic jokes – because you know, laughing about the Holocaust is edgy.

In his videos, followed by 53m subscribers, he has shown swastika fan art, played the Nazi anthem, and given a brief Hitler salute. What a joker. In the most recent video, PewDiePie, real name Felix Kjellberg (because I can't bear to type out such a stupid YouTube name ever again) reportedly paid two Indians through a crowdfunding website to hold up a sign which read "Death to all Jews". A white guy with a net worth of $124m making poor brown people hold up a sign calling for genocide is pure banter, isn't it?

http://www.independent.co.uk/voices...ome-cool-alt-right-young-people-a7579756.html

 

[GifGafIsTheBestGaf]

Disney with that kiss of death

 

[LiK]

his youtube red show and premium ad program are two different things.

oops, misread. was on my phone.

 

[ramoisdead]

Good. Hopefully it goes to show that it doesn't matter how big a star you are or how big your fanbase is, you're not allowed to spew out any hateful rhetoric and dismiss it off as joking.

 

[joecanada]

Yes, the same Mel Gibson who spent 10 years in the wilderness out of Hollywood and couldn't get a major Hollywood studio to back any of his projects, or manage to only get any substantial acting roles.


It's the end of of his career as we know it. If/when it hits the national press it will have a massive effect on his brand. And with the current political climate there is every chance this could be far more damaging.

Yes and Gibson probably made millions off hacksaw ridge.... That's like the opposite of career over, dude probably made more than most do in a life time off one film . In other words if someone can make money off of you you're almost never blacklisted

 

[Fliesen]

there's a website (fiverr.com) where you can pay people to do various stuff for you, two guys are offering a service to hold up a sign and laugh.
he submitted outrageous and offensive ideas ("death to all jews) to them and a couple others and expected all of them to deny his requests, most of them did, those two didn't and he was very surprised and shocked that they actually went trough with it.

that's my neutral write up of what happened.

but since his show is not a live show, he could've censored / blurred / cut the offensive statement during his editing process.
How is "death to all jews" / "hitler did nothing wrong" anywhere close to okay to post on Youtube? just because it's not using racial slurs, per se, doesn't mean that - as a statement, no matter how 4chan-meme it may be, it's still extremely offensive.


With regards to the whole thing: PewDiePie is gonna land on his feet. Which he should. Because he's not a bad guy, he simply wilfully simply overstepped a few too many lines to impress / cater to his mostly rather young audience.

His career shouldn't be ruined, neither should stuff like this remain unsanctioned and therefore normalized.

I'm perfectly okay with how things are unfolding.

 

[ScaryShark]

And with that your 15 minutes is up. Hope you invested well.

I think people are willfully ignorant of Felix's success if they equate what he's accomplished and created with '15 minutes'. This just shows how big he got that his channel was connected to these massive corporate entities and he has to play by different rules to keep that going. There are large channels doing much more risqué stuff and are successful they just aren't intertwined with big businesses like PewDiePie is.

He could more than live off what he's made if he stopped a year ago, he will have a steady income as long as he just resumes being the overwhelmingly most popular 'influencer' on YouTube. The way people are posting in this thread they'd probably be absolutely astonished how much money the guy has made already.