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[Aaronrules380]

So you could deal with Pence's gay therapy?

Don't think the president actually has any extra power over that. That's the supreme court and maybe congress, and neither of those things will be different with Trump in charge

 

[Ogodei]

I guess I'd be ok with President Hatch out of the lot of them...?

Pretty much. He's from an older breed of GOP, still an awful man, but who can at least abide by gentlemen's agreements.

 

[TaterTots]

Pence would have zero chance of being reelected due to the messy circumstances, and that's assuming he he doesn't end up getting attached to the Russia scandal.

Re-elected? I guess we're going on everyone in the administration being kicked out and having a new election? Has that even happened before? I can't imagine that work being put in.

 

[neoanarch]

Is there somewhere I can bet on cheetos impeachment? Cause that bet is looking better and better each day

Check a British site like paddy power. They will literally take most bets.

 

[Biske]

https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/831510532318429184

All the leaks are real...

God he is dumb as hell.


At this point, aside from the whole "just fucking shit up in America" even Putin must be let down by Trump.

 

[Hexa]

Is there somewhere I can bet on cheetos impeachment? Cause that bet is looking better and better each day

https://www.predictit.org/Contract/5140/Will-Donald-Trump-be-president-at-year-end-2017#data

 

[Ourobolus]

If there's any justice the Supreme Court would rule it go to the popular vote winner and deem the election of Trump illegitimate. At this point it is nearly impossible to determine just how infested then GOP is, so it would be irresponsible to give any sitting member of the GOP presidency.

While Ryan is the likely candidate, in all honesty there needs to be some serious discussion about it because it's clear that a majority of the GOP leadership's judgment is suspect given the Trump fellatio

 

[Apharmd]

Nah let's burn him too. He in this. He knew and he looked the other fuckin' way. Last time I checked, that shit is a crime.

 

[CrocoDuck]

I can't believe he knew. Going to play a Moby album now.

Sorry if this is a little off topic, but what did Moby know?

 

[Gutek]

I wonder why CNN is so hesitant to talk about this

2 options.

1. Because it's a NYT scoop
2. Because there are no actual news. We knew Trump campaign under Manafort were talking to Russia. For this to gain traction, we need one more campaign staffer name to leak.

 

[captive]

id say who needs House of Cards, this shit is amazing. But its kinda like action movies, its awesome to see shit get blown up and people shot, until you see it in real life, then its not so awesome.

 

[ExplodingKetchup]

I wonder why CNN is so hesitant to talk about this

I'm hoping they're just independently verifying. The traction it's gaining on GAF leads me to believe it will gain traction elsewhere.

 

[Log4Girlz]

He wants to make America Great Again. How is he to do this without the loving embrace of Mother Russia???!?!

 

[gdt]

They are getting there....but they don't have him yet though. Need a smoking gun.

Here's hoping it's found soon!

 

[Meowster]

Lock him up!

 

[MetalGearZed]

Now I wish there was some pee pee orgy tape, so the whole GOP can go down. but, i'll settle for Drumpf. something better come of all this.

 

[WillyFive]

If there's any justice the Supreme Court would rule it go to the popular vote winner and deem the election of Trump illegitimate. At this point it is nearly impossible to determine just how infested then GOP is, so it would be irresponsible to give any sitting member of the GOP presidency.

That's one way to start the second civil war.

 

[Shoeless]

So what happens if all this comes out and the Republicans simply ignore it and pretend it's not happening? Since they're the majority in Congress can't they just do nothing, or actively suppress investigations?

 

[gutshot]

CNN still not reporting on this. I doubt this will gain any traction.

It's from the NY Times. It'll gain traction.

 

[TaterTots]

Don't think the president actually has any extra power over that. That's the supreme court and maybe congress, and neither of those things will be different with Trump in charge

Well, the GOP is in charge of everything. If he were to sign some oddball executive order it has the chance of passing.

 

[Nafai1123]

Is there somewhere I can bet on cheetos impeachment? Cause that bet is looking better and better each day

Vegas is accepting odds on resignation or impeachment

 

[KirbYuuYuu]

Even though people on GAF are always expecting a impeachment, lets say that does happen. Wouldn't the GOP and Pence still be in charge? If so, you should look into Pence. Not like he is is pro life, lgbt, etc. Only win is the orange turd being removed. Mostly would be the same the same otherwise.

You are asking this as if we aren't aware of the fact.

It's simply dealing with the reality of our scenario.

 

[Extra Sauce]

what in the fucking world
remind me to never piss off spies

How would you even know that you haven't already?

 

[CrispyBoar]

Yea the democrats are completely clean and pure here

I don't get the myopia in this thread

Yes if all this is true and collision occurred - by all means get them all out
I'm for it - I'd rather have someone in the White House that is presidential and professional

But everyone solely blaming the Russians?
If it wasn't for the democrats screwing over Bernie and all the other stuff that was uncovered this wouldn't even be a story

How can you not say Hilary's team is most to blame?

Good grief, dude.

People like yourself wonders why Republican/Trump supporters gets hated on so much.

 

[BronsonLee]

How would you even know that you didn't already?

uh

 

[Brawly Likes to Brawl]

CNN still not reporting on this. I doubt this will gain any traction.

This news came up half an hour ago. People need to remember that outlets need to corroborate sources before posting news.

 

[superdeluxe]

I posted in another thread that it will be the combined force of the IC, the press and the judiciary that will save this country, another gafer posted the synergy between the three groups..the IC leaks to the press, the press reports on it and the judiciary prevents the WH from stamping it out

 

[Dmax3901]

I get that this is a big deal, I just can't quite get my head round why this particular news story is such a big deal. I'm not in the US so that may be getting in the way, can someone explain as if you were explaining it to say... a 14 year old?

 

[Enduin]

The line of succession is kind of fucked that only 2 people on that list are actually elected official beside the VP.

Everyone after the Speaker and Pres pro tempore are all Secretaries appointed by the President.

I mean if Pence was also caught up and impeached and then Ryan and Hatch didn't take the position it would fall to fucking Rex Tillerson and then Steve Mnuchin.

 

[smokeymicpot]

So what happens if all this comes out and the Republicans simply ignore it and pretend it's not happening? Since they're the majority in Congress can't they just do nothing, or actively suppress investigations?

Rand Paul basically already said that too. It is on CNN.com on mobile so really can't find it as fast as normal.

 

[Already Torn]

Will we be playing Zelda without a Trump presidency??

Trump will be gone before we find out more details about the Switch Virtual Console.

Spoiler

And he won't be impeached

Anyway, I'm glad I bought a subscription to the failing NYT.

 

[Maximo]

this HAS to be enough for the GOP to warrant starting an investigation.... right?

*Were looking into it*

 

[Aaronrules380]

While Ryan is the likely candidate, in all honesty there needs to be some serious discussion about it because it's clear that a majority of the GOP leadership's judgment is suspect given the Trump fellatio

I'd argue they're (mostly) bending over backward for Trump more because they're scared at this point that alienating him would really hurt their own chances for reelection rather than because they're also in bed with Russia. That and they think they can still use him to some extent

 

[Ogodei]

Re-elected? I guess we're going on everyone in the administration being kicked out and having a new election? Has that even happened before? I can't imagine that work being put in.

No provision for that in the constitution. We're stuck with the line-of-succession as is.

The best option here would be for Trump to stay on but be so paralyzed by scandal that he's unable to achieve anything. Kind of a John Quincy Adams situation where he was lame-ducked from the start, then thrashed in the election rematch of 1828.

 

[Felix Lighter]

Pence wanted funerals for aborted fetuses


He's much worse than Trump

A pro-life whacko versus a man who is suspected of colluding with Russians to influence the Presidential Election. A man whose signature policies are a wall to keep out Mexicans and a travel ban to keep out Muslims. A man whose solution to race relations in this country is to adopt stop and frisk as a national law enforcement policy. A President who flies off the handle on Twitter constantly when he's questioned or criticized. A man who has already embarrassed himself almost every time he's interacted with other world leaders. A man who has suggested he may or may not support our allies in their time of need. A man who wants to bring back torture as an intelligence gather tactic. Then look at his closest advisers, look at the men sliding Executive Orders under his pen.

 

[Emerson]

So you could deal with Pence's gay therapy?

I would like to see someone produce some evidence of this. Because it's repeated ad nauseam and based on the searching I've done, it's wildly overstated based on a single, likely misconstrued, line in a bill he signed.

I am in no way defending Pence, as I hate this entire administration and I'd pay good money to be in the front row to watch them drop from the gallows if that happened. But I don't think there's actually evidence for this claim.

 

[Yoshimitsu126]

I'm still cautiously optimistic the GOP will do something about this and that US will protest about this.

But I'll take this Valentine Treat today.

 

[Knoxcore]

I mean...this is treason, right? This is grounds for criminal investigations.

 

[Grizzlyjin]

the entire line of succession is fucked

I think we'd be okay when you get to Ryan. He's like the least problematic person on that list for me. Ryan isn't a conspiracy nut and is actually a competent politician. Not ideal but if you told me Paul Ryan was going to be President for the next 4 years, I'd smile and say Thank You.

 

[Feep]

Why aren't other outlets reporting

 

[Man-is-Obsolete]

CNN still not reporting on this. I doubt this will gain any traction.

It takes a little bit of time to check your own sources and then think about how you present this. This is big, but tv news may not run it till tomorrow.

 

[BigJonsson]

Probably 8. A Charles Logan season anyways.

Or Live Another Day for the

Spoiler

blackmail of the Chief of Staff by the Russian Ambassador and the President suffering from Alzheimers

 

[faisal233]

The first move should be to get the fucking insane, dangerous stooge out of the nuke chair. He's an exersential threat that goes beyond policy disagreements.

Once that's done, the Dems can just stonewall any and everything and keep the illegitimate president story going. Being from a party that supported a Russian plant, it shouldn't be hard. Run on the midterms on it.

Yea, this concern trolling is ridiculous. Once the blood is in the water, the GOP is going to suffer massive losses. Just look at Flynn, the second he got fired, everyone senses weakness and is ready to pounce.

We can delegitimize an unelected president all day, especially with beating the Russian horse worse than Benghazi.

 

[Staccat0]

Yea the democrats are completely clean and pure here

I'm just quoting this cuz it made me laugh.

 

[Waylon Drums]

Will we be playing Zelda without a Trump presidency??

Don't put that thought into my head. Now I need it.

 

[Ourobolus]

I'd argue they're (mostly) bending over backward for Trump more because they're scared at this point that alienating him would really hurt their own chances for reelection rather than because they're also in bed with Russia. That and they think they can still use him to some extent

Oh, I know the reason. Shit is still disgraceful.

 

[Ashodin]

Yeah, there's no way if this breaks bad that Pence gets to assume the seat. He knew. So he gets impeached too.

VPs can get impeached and removed just like Presidents do. And if the case is a treasonous one, he doesn't get to duck it, much less be rewarded with the Presidency.

It will fall to Ryan. But the question then would be whether the election itself is declared illegitimate.

PLEASE.

This election was already unprecedented in scope, let us get into re-election territory. WE need it!

 

[MetalGearZed]

I mean...this is treason, right? This is grounds for criminal investigations.

Wouldn't it be great if it was that simple.

 

[Davide]

So you could deal with Pence's gay therapy?

There's a lot of hyperbole about Mike Pence on GAF.

He's not going to implement some government gay electrocution thing. I'd take him over Paul Ryan, a tea-partier.

 

[Loxley]

Obama when he gets back to the 'States after a blissful trip of kite-surfing: