I've got white friends who try once in a blue moon to do black humor, or use racial stereotypes in their jokes.
The cold silence from me and my family is always enough to let them know they fucked up.
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I've got white friends who try once in a blue moon to do black humor, or use racial stereotypes in their jokes.
The cold silence from me and my family is always enough to let them know they fucked up.
Its still inherently anti semitic whether it was a joke or not. It being in obviously poor taste isn't a defense at all.
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TwilightPrincess
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StereoVsn
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Why the fuck is this account not banned?
I'm not even black, but have a black sister, and I understand that feeling. Except they obviously think it's safe to say around me not knowing my family. I usually just give a straight faced stare.
What are you talking about? You aren't supposed to make the kind of joke PDP did whether its about Jews, Muslims, Christians, Blacks, Whites, or whoever. Also the oppression Olympics shit needs to fucking stop, it doesn't matter who had it worse, its the fact that this kind of stuff is bad outright. Who had more casualties doesn't matter to what groups you can or can't joke about.
ScatheZombie
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I meant more that despite the fact I just said my family was forced to flee the Nazis, I'm a fucking anti-Semite because I don't completely agree with the degree of outrage given to a poor taste Holocaust joke.
It's like... holy shit. People have gotten to the point where they are so outraged for other people, that if you don't 100% support them in their outrage for you, you are a fucking traitor.
That's absolute bullshit.
The content was anti-semitic. He may not hold those beliefs or ideas, but they are still dangerous ideas to play around with so carelessly as he did.
Zionist conspiracy posts... Well that's one way to start the day.
Also since when can you make jokes about African Americans, muslims, whites, Asians etc? Unless you're in an already racist-ass area, that shit would get called out quick.
You could watch his videoHe has some points.
One of his points was:
"The Media called Pewds a nazi!"
"So he thought it would be funny to dress up like a Nazi and do a react video to a hitler speech!"
"Dont you get it!? It's about not being a Nazi!"
I mean...I dont even know how to respond to that.
Amazing how we have an actual anti-Semite feeling bold enough to spout off in here while Pew's defenders have been insistent on arguing the notion that his videos haven't normalized anti-Semitism to any degree because of that magical cure-all known as "context!"
Maybe the irony won't be lost.
Maybe the irony won't be lost.
I don't agree with this sentiment that words are off limits, forbidden to be uttered, you can tell when it's used seriously or not and in those cases it should be called out no doubt. I don't think this approach to being outraged at every benign little thing is going to be any productive but feel free to disagree. A good analogy for this would be the war on drugs, replace drugs with offensive slurs.
Who in here is arguing PDP should be outlawed?
It's almost as if anti-semitism as a meme is unacceptable in any context.
Hari Seldon
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The Wall Street journal. Attacking PDP gives them weeks of lazy ass cut and paste from twitter articles that generate millions of views with zero effort from the actual "journalist". Shit if I was a journalist I would do this all day. Write one article smearing someone popular, then for two weeks spend 10 minutes every day cutting and pasting from twitter while getting acolades from all the hits i'm generating! The media loves this new outrage culture.
I miss Bish :<
Silver Arrows
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This thread is a gong show. It truly is.
But then again, there's always going to be someone who is going to willingly cape for neo-Nazi ideals, especially in this day and age. Doesn't stop it from being fucking disgusting.
But then again, there's always going to be someone who is going to willingly cape for neo-Nazi ideals, especially in this day and age. Doesn't stop it from being fucking disgusting.
This sounds like "fake media" but maybe I'm crazy.
Messofanego
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Anyone else love the fact that Ethan Klein of h3h3 actually used identity politics and tactics of those "SJWs" that he attacks to become Pewdiepie's token Jew? Hey, I'm not offended, so other Jews shouldn't be!
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Gotdatmoney
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The war on drugs was always about oppressing poor people and especially minorities.
The war on not making anti semetic statements is not even a war. It's literally just society going "Could you not? It's kind of fucked up"
But if you wanna die on a hill for people to make unfunny kill all jew jokes and passively use the n word by all means.
But it's pretty disheartening you're comparing actual policy that destroyed thousands of lives to people just disliking bad jokes.
You missed the point, there are many people who find the very uttering of certain words or ideas unacceptable, that's what I'm talking about.
I'm not dieing on any hill, we're discussing this topic in particular. I meant the war on drugs in the sense of criminalizing drug use altogether, that's very unproductive in the fight against drug use.
Between this thread and the other one there have already been multiple people chiming in to say that this is only a big deal because "those Jews that run the media" are offended and they obviously would not be making such a fuss if it was another minority group being targeted.
Although this person is being a lot more explicit about it.
Good thing no one has ever said certain words and phrases should be forbidden from utterance like they'd summon a Eldritch monstrosity or else we'd have to have another tired and misplaced conversation about free speech.
That's not a good analogy at all, it doesn't even make sense. Also who said things are off limits? He said what he said, it was foolish as all hell and very offensive at that. Its not that they are off limits, you can certainly say death to jews or you hate so and so or whatever. Go right ahead and say it but you better be ready to take the backlash for doing so, especially when you're joke is not nuanced, insightful or funny in the first place. People aren't pissed at a shitty joke, they're pissed at a shitty joke that calls for the death to Jews.
You don't have to be pushing Jews into a gas chamber or burning down a Synagogue to be called anti Semitic.
I didn't miss anything, your analogy was just bad.
SaniOYOYOY
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wow what a totally good idea, will definitely nets you that click alright
paperspace
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Anyone else love the fact that Ethan Klein of h3h3 actually used identity politics and tactics of those "SJWs" that he attacks to become Pewdiepie's token Jew? Hey, I'm not offended, so other Jews shouldn't be!
That's obviously not what he said. Come on.
Hari Seldon
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Well if you write articles by cutting and pasting twitter arguments then you are definitely a fake journalist. It is probably OT for this thread, but it is a huge pet peeve of mine lol. Everytime I get hoodwinked into clinking on an article and it turns out it is just screenshots of twitter I die a little inside.
The Wall street journal definitely did a hit job on PDP for clicks, because they know no one is going to give a fuck about reading abotu Toshiba losing 6 billion compared to an article about PDP dressing up like a nazi (but cutting out all of the context for it). Outrage news is better than real news now.
I do hate cut and paste Twitter garbage being presented as news as well. And I'll agree that news organizations often rely on sensationalism for clicks/buys/views.
But given the current environment, the outrage is going to come quicker, it's just the current state of things. People are scared and they should be.
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All these years later I still chuckle at what a fucking moron that guy is.
Sure. But that doesn't mean I ever have or that I'm interested in ever doing so. So, snarkily say "you know who I'm talking about" is just making assumptions and being a jerk. Not everybody knows who Pew Die Pie is, so somebody saying "who is that" shouldn't be assumed to be disingenuous. If you gave me a lineup of faces and said "pick out Pew Die Pie" I couldn't do it. If you asked me what his videos are about, I couldn't tell you. So you shouldn't assume the person that post the "Who?" gif can, either.
This is how WSJ did it.
Zen_Arcade
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I haven't seen the video, but what you just described is irony.
Chinese Cartoons
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Don't mind Messofanego he loves cherry picking.
Half of your posts have been antagonistic and not contributing to the conversation.
It's all our faults. Just a bunch of cucks.
Just half? Fuck me. I'm clearly not doing something right. Could you teach me your way?
Death to all jews has a very strong connotation to genocide which was an act of violence and hate to a specific race. It carries violence.
It will carry the same violence if you were to exchange jews with blacks, or asians, or indian, or muslim, and so on.
To throw any of that around recklessly normalizes it and puts people in real danger. Because through this kind of normalization we begin to lose that sense of what is wrong and the meaning behind those set of words and why they scare people and why they are terrified of the escalation that will eventually ensue.
I agree that people should be scared and on the edge, because these times are scary as fuck (to me as well, I am terrified of what happens in regards to Trump, Russia, the EU etc.).
But I also think that especially in these uncertain times the quality of reporting should be nothing short of as good as possible, without exception, so that people can form their opinions on the full context.
Milo is an idiot though. He actively enticed an online crowd to harass Leslie Jones (see subject tweet/article). It was cyberbullying on a large scale and there was not a single doubt about the context Milo was going for (and is going for in basically everything he does). It is utterly terrible what happened to that woman. Saying someone is an idiot (the "mean" comment of the journalist) does not even come remotely close to the vile shit Milo has said and done and I am sure you are aware of that.
You seem angry.
Silver Arrows
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arrrgh those damn lefties, wanting to have some respect for people and not say 'kill all jews'
smh
Yeah shitty journalism really doesn't help anyone. People/journalists need to step up their game, not rush out half assed articles.
Messofanego
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"I feel like as a Jew and someone who knows Felix (Pewdiepie), is friends with him, I'm in a unique position to talk about this situation."
"As a Jewish person, I'm not offended. And this is the problem with this manufactured outrage. People getting offended for people who are not offended. You don't need to get outraged on my behalf."
That's true, I do love cherries.
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