Honestly, while I appreciate the level of detail, it really feels like NRS has backed itself into a corner with how much effort they've put into the voice work alone. Each fighter has several lines of dialog against any given character for their intros, clashes, and random battle banter. This means that the entire cast needs to be brought in for tons of recording whenever a new character or premier skin is added. Compare this to Street Fighter where there's no unique dialog whatsoever — DLC characters could conceivably be added for several years without having to worry about voice actors.
Injustice 2 Roster Discussion & Speculation Thread
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The goal isn't milking the buyers, it's to make sure they keep playing the game, because the abandon rate of NRS game compared to other fighters/games is ridiculous.
If you can just get whatever you want instantly it defeats the purpose.
Also we're not talking cosmetics here, Overwatch doesn't let you pay for gameplay altering mechanics.
There is also the possibility of ingame events to beat, that could lead to specific gear themes (movies, comics etc...), maybe you can earn tickets to participate in game. And buy some if you lose and are out of it.
I absolutely don't see a loot crate system in this game with the business model they went for.
I think they will sell plenty of SHADERS. All those colors from comics, movies, they also confirmed shaders can change skin color, hair, and face, so you could get specific shaders (momoa, cavill, gado etc...) too. That's basically the new "costumes". This wouldn't demand new voices and stuff.
If you can just get whatever you want instantly it defeats the purpose.
Also we're not talking cosmetics here, Overwatch doesn't let you pay for gameplay altering mechanics.
There is also the possibility of ingame events to beat, that could lead to specific gear themes (movies, comics etc...), maybe you can earn tickets to participate in game. And buy some if you lose and are out of it.
I absolutely don't see a loot crate system in this game with the business model they went for.
I think they will sell plenty of SHADERS. All those colors from comics, movies, they also confirmed shaders can change skin color, hair, and face, so you could get specific shaders (momoa, cavill, gado etc...) too. That's basically the new "costumes". This wouldn't demand new voices and stuff.
GringoSuave89
Banned
While I agree that I don't think NRS will go that route with the microtransactions, let's not act like the option isn't there. The secondthey announced the gear system I was worried they would have purchasable packs for armor to avoid having to grind, and while they said they wouldn't, that doesn't mean I won't stay vigilant.
I do think they will just do extra characters and shaders/premiere skins as their post game incentive and extra sales. I think that's a fair microtransaction to have, so long as it isn't like $10 for a character and 2 shaders or something like that. Again, this is publisted WB. I still remember Arkham Knight's season pass...
I do think they will just do extra characters and shaders/premiere skins as their post game incentive and extra sales. I think that's a fair microtransaction to have, so long as it isn't like $10 for a character and 2 shaders or something like that. Again, this is publisted WB. I still remember Arkham Knight's season pass...
pock3tmonster
Banned
Gear appears to scale with character level. Even if you bought "loot boxes/crates," you wouldn't have a strong advantage because your gear is going to be quickly outdated as you level up. Yes, it affects gameplay, in the sense that you are unlocking gear, abilities and shaders at a faster rate than those earning the same loot one match at a time, but there are also systems in place to turn off the affects of said loot, cosmetics aside. I don't want to see this kind of system implemented into Injustice 2, but I do want the game to have a healthy player base and long term support from the developers and the community. In order for that to happen there needs to be a steady stream of funding, especially for licensed appearances and costumes. It's a means to an end and I'd be okay with it, if it meant more content.
I could see shaders being this game's alternate costumes, but we haven't seen enough of their implementation to understand how NRS intend to use them to expand the game's content. We don't have definite confirmation as far as I'm aware that their intentions as you suggest, have been realised.
I'm loving the fact that they said they plan to support this game long term. I really hope that is true and they don't release the 9 DLC characters and call it quits. Didn't even think about shaders but I can definitely see those becoming microtransaction based. Imagine different Lantern Corps shaders... which I hope are available in game (they slyly discussed them on stream) but who knows, those could be sold separately. Oh, the horror lol. Someone on TYM said they think it's possible that with all these added abilities, they make incorporate some to the base character over time in balance patches and create new ones. I think it's POSSIBLE.
Yeah, that aspect is often overlooked when there is character specific dialogue. However to future proof when they recorded with a base character, they might have written lines of dialogue for use with potential future characters. Maybe it would be worth the extra time when they have the actor in the studio. Of course they would need a pretty long road map of content planned out.
Besides Character Stories, or another Cinematic Story Mode if Capcom chooses to go down that route.
Nah, a lot of times they record several lines for potential DLC, sometimes they use generic-y battle lines and have the DLC characters squeeze into it to make it unique, so on. There doesn't need to be a ton of new work necessarily.
GringoSuave89
Banned
Man, I'm going to miss this beta. Had some pretty awesome games tonight. Even some against some /r/INJUSTICE kids. This is going to be a long wait till May...
Hopefully their big DLC plans means they thought ahead and recorded more for the future this time. I'd think they probably knew the first nine. That's a ton of voiceovers though, but I'd suspect the one-liners sre easier to record than the story mode.
Yeah, it's an extra, what, 15 lines or so of dialogue per DLC character? They had Phil Lamaar do some Static lines for the original in case they chose him but ultimately scrap it. From my understanding companies book by the block so it's nothing to throw in a few lines for a character they may or may not use.
Say whaaaaaaaaaat?
GringoSuave89
Banned
Yep, they have their roster finalized years before the game comes out, the MK11 roster is probably done already, and they map their DLC characters out months in advance and then start working on them once the principal game is finished and they're just doing polish. It's how they release the DLC characters weeks after the initial launch. Wouldn't be surprised if we see all 9 DLC characters within a year of launch.
GringoSuave89
Banned
I think we'll get all 9 by like October. They're pretty quick about it.
I dunno if it'll be that early, it took a year for 8 MKX DLC characters but they also didn't outright state the plan like the do here. At the same time MK9 characters were roughly a month a part, Injustice 1 was roughly 3 weeks or so besides Zat/MMH, and MKX was roughly a month so you can expect a character a month more than likely but you also have to factor in the premiere skins, costume DLC, and the like.
GringoSuave89
Banned
I feel like the process has gotten way more streamlined. They have locked in 9 characters (I suppose they could always add more later if they so choose), and I feel like DC is going to want to keep things moving, especially if any characters line up with the WW and JL movies. But I do suppose October is a fairly fast turnaround time, so I wouldn't be surprised if it takes longer.
Yeah, the game launches mid may so we're talking a character every 2-3 weeks to hit that.
GringoSuave89
Banned
I could see it though. We also aren't factoring in things like premiere skins and shaders and whatnot. And if they have any new tricks up their sleeves, like Factions in MKX. Whole lot of variables.
So what platforms does everyone here have Injustice GAU on? I'm thinking about hosting a tournament after the beta is over and winner gets a custom made Injustice T-shirt of their choice lol. My fiancée has gotten into vinyl pressing for shirts/cups/you name it and I think she would be down with it. I'll upload a photo of a few things she's done later to show you're not going to get a bad shirt haha. Would anyone be interested in the tourney?
PS4 for me, I won't win but I will gladly participate
GringoSuave89
Banned
I'm Xbox
pock3tmonster
Banned
PS4 here. Great idea Sinkfla.
I don't know about October, but I definitely expect NRS to have released the 9 DLC characters before the end of 2017. Hopefully, we'll see another 9 character Season Pass for 2018.
pock3tmonster
Banned
I'd love to see NRS spread out their releases further as well, but I'll be extremely happy with two years of support.
Awesome! I'm excited and glad you all like the idea. 
Hell, I might even make it a bi weekly/monthly thing until the launch of IJ2. I know we're all on different timezones so please list what your preferred time to play would be. I see so far it's mostly PS4 but maybe we can do Xbox tournaments too so nobody is left out. Should this get cross posted into the FG community thread? Whether you'll think you'll win or not, just remember it's just for fun and we can even help each other before and after tournaments get better at the game in preparation for IJ2. Along with a first prize custom shirt (fiancee said she's more than happy to make them) I might do a second prize by doing a random drawing for entrants so everyone gets a chance to win something.
Slaythe, if you're reading this and want to participate we'd be more than happy to create you a shirt that's somehow related to the over usage of Superman's F 2,3
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Hell, I might even make it a bi weekly/monthly thing until the launch of IJ2. I know we're all on different timezones so please list what your preferred time to play would be. I see so far it's mostly PS4 but maybe we can do Xbox tournaments too so nobody is left out. Should this get cross posted into the FG community thread? Whether you'll think you'll win or not, just remember it's just for fun and we can even help each other before and after tournaments get better at the game in preparation for IJ2. Along with a first prize custom shirt (fiancee said she's more than happy to make them) I might do a second prize by doing a random drawing for entrants so everyone gets a chance to win something. Slaythe, if you're reading this and want to participate we'd be more than happy to create you a shirt that's somehow related to the over usage of Superman's F 2,3
.Awesome! I'm excited and glad you all like the idea.
Slaythe, if you're reading this and want to participate we'd be more than happy to create you a shirt that's somehow related to the over usage of Superman's F 2,3
THAT SHIRT IS MINE
What did he mean by this?
Member
Down the line I wouldnt mind paying like $3 to unlock all of a characters cosmetics tbh
Haha! You ready to fight for it?
I'm going to work on some designs for it asap haha. Ideas welcome, because hey I said custom shirt!
Troubled Bat
Member
PS3.
I would totally enter just for the shirt alone.
I would totally enter just for the shirt alone.
LordOfLore
Banned
Sub-Zero is totally coming out in October on the MK 25th anniversary.
pock3tmonster
Banned
Try $20, at least.
lucebuce12
Member
Man, Freakzaoid, Captain Planet, and Space Ghost would've been perfect.
GringoSuave89
Banned
Reasonable list. Only ones I'm iffy on are Constantine and Star fire, though I would love to have them.
Yeah that looks about right i'd say. Are we sure that Darkseid counts as one of the 9 DLC characters?
That list is way too safe and predictable. All of those characters have been mentioned by Ed Boon. There will probably be a few Batgirl/Zod/Triborg/Bo Rai Cho/Leatherface style curveballs.
Dark seid is already in the game?
But damn I'd be super on board with hell boy and black manta
GringoSuave89
Banned
Gimme Black Manta and Red Hood, and the rest could be whatever. Hell, so long as I get those two, you could give me Captain Carrot.
Face it Tiger..
Banned
I'm so mad, I have yet to receive a beta code 
registered the first day available too.
registered the first day available too.
pock3tmonster
Banned
I'm so mad, I have yet to receive a beta code
registered the first day available too.
I registered for myself, partner and his brother as soon as it opened to no avail. I understand your frustrations. You are in for an amazing game though. It might be a few months away, but I'm sure you'll forget about the mishandling of the beta once it's in your hands.
What did he mean by this?
Member
Darkseid is not part of the 9.
Starfire - for the fans
Constantine -for the fans
Black Manta - for the movie and cuz hes the best
Red Hood - for the fans
Sub-Zero - for Boon
Mera - for JL movie
Steppenwolf - for JL movie
Spawn - already semileaked by Todd
Dr. Manhattan - for Rebirth
Because Batman.