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[Thraktor]

Seems 85% likely 20nm/A57/Maxwell, but in the interest of objectivity there's no size scale to go off comparing them in these two pictures (well, the HDMI ports for the Shield, but nothing on the Switch shot there). Someone less lazy than me could calculate the die size from the 3DS cart in the first page.

If the RAM modules are 10x15mm, then from the close-up photo it would seem that Switch's SoC is about 11x11mm, or 121mm². (Which is pretty much exactly the size of the original TX1, for reference).

 

[Atheerios]

So if its confirmed ( Image seems pretty certain) then

For 100$ Switch users will get a screen, a splitter dock, HD Rumble, IR Sensor,(Battery)

Cool i guess but i dont know if they didnt bother Rumble and made for 250$ it would be better tbh.

Edit:Also 12gb more memory space

And 16gb* more memory space.
And all the necessary cables.
And speakers.
And a smaller form factor.
And two controllers in the from. of Joy-Con with their own batteries / sensors / wireless network components.

 

[dampflokfreund]

Why do people say things like this? There is a 0% chance the chip in the Shield is the same on as in the Switch

I know, but pretty similar.

 

[Diprosalic]

People said Federer wouldn't reach 18.

we always believed my friend.

 

[Schnozberry]

Pretty much confirms its Maxwell not Pascal

Not really. There likely would only be a 5% variance in physical die size if they transplanted a 20nm chip to 16nm. The density difference is pretty small.

Edit: It mostly likely is a modified Tegra X1, but the point still stands that the die size isn't really a giveaway.

 

[saskuatch]

looks like the chip is identical to the shield, so much for custom lol.

 

[Skittzo0413]

looks like the chip is identical to the shield, so much for custom lol.

Custom is the only thing officially confirmed. Some people love jumping to conclusions.

 

[UnemployedVillain]

Custom is the only thing officially confirmed. Some people love jumping to conclusions.

HW threads on this board bring out the most ridiculous posts. I don't know why I keep coming into these lol

 

[DSN2K]

literally like for like, Maxwell revision 2 but we knew this...

 

[Genio88]

So Gtx 1050 confirmed?

 

[Rodin]

This thread right now

Btw, Blunty made a video about the teardown, he said it's unclear if it's a devkit or a retail unit.

 

[LordOfChaos]

If the RAM modules are 10x15mm, then from the close-up photo it would seem that Switch's SoC is about 11x11mm, or 121mm². (Which is pretty much exactly the size of the original TX1, for reference).

So, A53's die area is 0.7mm2 at 20nm, if they took those out...They'd still save about nothing, lol.

Custom, yes, but it seems to be leaning towards being a lot like a TX1 overall.

 

[Diprosalic]

For 100$ Switch users will get a screen, a splitter dock, HD Rumble, IR Sensor,(Battery)

well i assume they get a discount on their own gpu.

 

[pulsemyne]

I wonder why the SEC number would differ on the Switch ram.

Actually scratch that the code on memory chips is slightly different. Wonder why.

 

[Unknown Soldier]

looks like the chip is identical to the shield, so much for custom lol.

Has someone torn down a Shield and looked at the SoC on that yet?

 

[Polygonal_Sprite]

One of the leading speculations was that Nvidia pawned off all their unsold stock X1 chips to Nintendo for a song. Don't remember how that fit into the 28nm vs 20nm speculation, though.

Well we know it is a different chip at least. Still no idea how different.

Yeah, there were people online saying it was just a "down clocked" TX1 chip with no modifications by Nintendo.

 

[Painraze]

So worse, better or about as expected?

 

[Xdrive05]

So is the 2017 Shield Maxwell also an "A2" revision like we see printed on the Switch SoC? That compare pic has thermal paste covering the codea.

 

[Maedre]

So Gtx 1050 confirmed?

What?? Oo

 

[dampflokfreund]

So worse, better or about as expected?

Exactly as expected

 

[tebunker]

For those of you wanting to hunt down this memory, start here, look for pics... go wild.

http://www.samsung.com/semiconductor/products/dram/mobile-dram/

 

[Skittzo0413]

So worse, better or about as expected?

We have no idea. The RAM appears to be at the low end of what we expected (25.6GB/s) but beyond that this tells us very little.

 

[LordOfChaos]

So worse, better or about as expected?

Pretty well pointing to what the rumours were. Around the size of the TX1 it would point to a 256 shader GPU, likely with a similar quad core CPU. If it's on 20nm, likely A57 and Maxwell 2.

 

[Unknown Soldier]

Here's comparison between Nvidia Shield 2017.

Pretty much confirms its Maxwell not Pascal

This is stupid, remove the thermal paste from the Shield SoC so people can look at the model number on the die!

 

[JoshuaJSlone]

Anyone opened up a Joy-Con yet? I'm sure it would've come up already, though.

 

[opricnik]

I'm literally 95% sure the 300 dollar price also includes that mark up for the Dock, not necessarily solely the Rumble.

Yeah but i said dock already.

How? I thought there is no density change between 16nm and 20nm, so the dies would look identical.

There is a Pic of Pascal chip it doesnt looks like Switch/Shield one.

 

[Genio88]

Anyone opened up a Joy-Con yet? I'm sure it would've come up already, though.

We already know what's inside them, ice cubes

 

[opricnik]

Why do people say things like this? There is a 0% chance the chip in the Shield is the same on as in the Switch

Image of chips are identical. I dont think you can blame people people and saying its %0 without any evidence.

 

[……forgetit]

Here's comparison between Nvidia Shield 2017.

Pretty much confirms its Maxwell not Pascal

This proves absolutely nothing

 

[Skittzo0413]

There is a Pic of Pascal chip it doesnt looks like Switch/Shield one.

A Tegra Pascal? Because that is a big part of the design. If you have one of those please share it.

 

[dampflokfreund]

This is stupid, remove the thermal paste from the Shield SoC so people can look at the model number on the die!

Its a different one of course.

 

[Guess Who]

Nintendo does hardware upgrades mid gen on their handhelds like new 3ds . But they didnt do any home console mid gen upgrade .

Sure they do. They released an updated GameCube with a bumped clock speed and a motion controller.

 

[nekomix]

There is a Pic of Pascal chip it doesnt looks like Switch/Shield one.

Maybe because the Pascal chip is just a GPU and not a full CPU/GPU package like the Switch/Shield one?

 

[opricnik]

well i assume they get a discount on their own gpu.

Not necessarily i mean Shield itself was a niche product , sold for profit not lost like Switch. Unlike PS4/Bone sold for less(lost in profit) for companies.

And 16gb* more memory space.
And all the necessary cables.
And speakers.
And a smaller form factor.
And two controllers in the from. of Joy-Con with their own batteries / sensors / wireless network components.

I think Shield running on Android lets use 15GB of memory while from what we know Switch has 28 gb free memory space. Cables must be identical though?

 

[FunkyDealer]

I look forward to the day someone takes a peek inside that SoC.

 

[bomblord1]

We have no idea. The RAM appears to be at the low end of what we expected (25.6GB/s) but beyond that this tells us very little.

Wait, how on earth is it possible to get the ram speed from this?

 

[nubbe]

last letter looks an 'H' too.

SEC 531
K4F6E30
4HBMGCH

Sony Entertainment Computer 531
Kimishima 4 Freedom 6 Entertaiment 30
4 High Bandwidth Memory GameCube Hardware

 

[Thraktor]

Useless piece of info for you folks; the QR code on the eMMC breakout board gives the following code:

EMC209620048

No trace of it on the internet, so it's likely some kind of internal stock-keeping code used by Nintendo or Foxconn.

 

[Skittzo0413]

Wait, how on earth is it possible to get the ram speed from this?

Thraktor seemed to be able to identify the RAM modules based on their serial numbers.

 

[Unknown Soldier]

Its a different one of course.

That's what I figured, it's a pretty dumb troll.

 

[Xdrive05]

Wait, how on earth is it possible to get the ram speed from this?

Based on the ram module. We're not 100% confirmed on which one it is, because the low quality of the leaked pics, but Thraktor found one that could be it.

Not verified, again. Some clearer pics with no obstructing edits would be nice.

 

[JoeFu]

Guys. The reddit thread had this there

http://m.imgur.com/uLF2CUq


Screenshot showing the chip of the new shield and switch

 

[dampflokfreund]

That's what I figured, it's a pretty dumb troll.

lol, I should have known better. Its pretty obvious now in hindsight

 

[lwilliams3]

This thread right now

Btw, Blunty made a video about the teardown, he said it's unclear if it's a devkit or a retail unit.

Can you link the video? Also.. this being a devkit would explain the "29th week 2016" thing. Hmm.

HW threads on this board bring out the most ridiculous posts. I don't know why I keep coming into these lol

Ignore those type of comments and pay attention to the productive ones.

 

[JoshuaJSlone]

We already know what's inside them, ice cubes

There could be three, or four, or five!

 

[Skittzo0413]

Guys. The reddit thread had this there

http://m.imgur.com/uLF2CUq

I don't think that means anything. Probably just a feature of standard Tegra packaging.

 

[Hoo-doo]

Guys. The reddit thread had this there

http://m.imgur.com/uLF2CUq

Is that the pascal chip?

 

[Schnozberry]

I'm wondering if this teardown was from one of the July Devkits. It seems missing the heat spreader/chassis that Computerbild.de found when they took one apart. Unless the person taking the photos just didn't bother with photographing it.

 

[audio_delay]

I think Shield running on Android lets use 15GB of memory while from what we know Switch has 28 gb free memory space. Cables must be identical though?

You are confusing storage with memory.
IIRC shield tv has only 3gb, not sure if 1gb is locked out/not accessible by andriod or if it really has only 3gb.

 

[Thraktor]

Guys. The reddit thread had this there

http://m.imgur.com/uLF2CUq

Different chips can have the same packaging arrangement. Particularly in this case where we can see the different product codes on the surface of the chips.