dgrdsv
Member
Coffee Lake is just that.
Yes it was "tales from my ass" and look now it's true so what are you gonna say next?
AMD Ryzen CPUs will launch by March 3
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Yes it was "tales from my ass" and look now it's true so what are you gonna say next?
Delusibeta
Banned
WAIT FOR THE REVIEWS! Christ, you'd think that No Man's Sky would have taught everyone in this forum to not assume that every claim a company makes is true, especially considering how dubious AMD's comparisons are in this press event.Would the 1700 be a substantial upgrade from my current i5-3570k???
I've been considering upgrading my rig for the past few months but I'm still not sure when would be a good time to pull the trigger on it
it's my current plan. I'll be waiting a while as i'm targeting the ryzen 5 cpu's
Duxxy3
Member
Would the 1700 be a substantial upgrade from my current i5-3570k???
I've been considering upgrading my rig for the past few months but I'm still not sure when would be a good time to pull the trigger on it
For non-gaming, I would probably say yes.
Pop-O-Matic
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This isn't just AMD though. We have loads of leaked benchmarks from other sources showing us how these CPUs are doing performance-wise.
TC McQueen
Member
No idea. I think the R5 1600(X) would be a better bang for your buck CPU though, especially with X370 mobos hanging out in the ~$150-200 range.Would the 1700 be a substantial upgrade from my current i5-3570k???
I've been considering upgrading my rig for the past few months but I'm still not sure when would be a good time to pull the trigger on it
Delusibeta
Banned
All synthetic benchmarks, which tend to have little to no relevance in real world applications. Most of AMD's marketing assumes that you're going to be making use of all these threads, which for 99% of people will not be the case.
We also have single threaded results
dgrdsv
Member
Not really. Most "leaked" benchmarks are suspiciously the same Cinebench R15 and 3DMark Physics scores as what AMD have shown officially. Makes you wonder if those are "leaks" in the proper sense of the word. Proper benchmarks are still needed.
MeisterLeder
Banned
Anything new about the R5 series?
BOOTY ME$$IAH
Member
Thanks. Yeah I do some gaming but I mostly use my computer as a Plex media server and host alot of VMs on it, I've been getting alot of hiccups on my current processor but I don't know if it's due to the strain or just the age, but I'll probably upgrade sometime in July lol
Papacheeks
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You have been acting like your some kind of authority for information on Ryzen and nothing until recently has been concrete.
So you saying that "we've known for some time" is straight up bullshit. No one really knew outside of leaks which were showing benchmarks for the 8 core and 6 core but nothing 100% to nail down if they were infact the cpu's being benched.
I find it funny that now your all of a sudden a fan of AMD when you've repeatedly shit on AMD in most videocard and cpu threads.
Back to the ignore list you go.
papersleeves
Member
PowerThroughLov
Member
Broadwell IPC with an extra 4 cores. Yes please AMD.
Papacheeks
Banned
That's what I'm looking forward to getting I'm more intersted currently in how well the boards work for overclocking and how far the 6 to 4 core can go.
LelouchZero
Member
Would the 1700 be a substantial upgrade from my current i5-3570k???
I've been considering upgrading my rig for the past few months but I'm still not sure when would be a good time to pull the trigger on it
Potentially yes but it all depends on the games you're playing and the frame-rates you're targeting. if it performs similar to the Broadwell-E CPUs then it would be an upgrade but we have to wait for the gaming benchmarks before we're certain.
Should they perform similar to the Broadwell-E CPUs then yes it would be an upgrade, how substantial it is depends on the games you're playing, your expectations, your performance targets and your existing GPU as you may GPU constrained in the games you play and not CPU limited, so a faster CPU wouldn't be of much use to you if you're GPU limited in the games you play.
For 60+ fps in CPU intensive games that scale past 4 threads a 4C/8T and above would be faster than the i5 providing you're CPU limited and not GPU limited, examples of games would be Battlefield 1 and The Witcher 3 in the pursuit of 120+ fps.
But you don't need to upgrade at all unless you're really unsatisfied with the performance of your current hardware and you know what's limiting your performance in the games you play.
papersleeves
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Coulomb_Barrier
Member
Kicking off in here.
I'm pacing up and down my living room right now on whether I'll be able to justify to the other half I'm going to be building another computer again with Ryzen.
I'll have hell to pay if she finds out I want to buy first then sell the old computer after cos of work needs.
I'm pacing up and down my living room right now on whether I'll be able to justify to the other half I'm going to be building another computer again with Ryzen.
I'll have hell to pay if she finds out I want to buy first then sell the old computer after cos of work needs.
sleepnaught
Member
Upgrading from an i7 920 at 4.0ghz. I sure hope the 1800x is worth the $900+ upgrade.
TC McQueen
Member
Those weren't ever going to exist. The X300 (IIRC) is the mobo you're looking for.anyone else super sad there wont be any x370 ITX boards.
Yeah their support is amazing! I asked them for fan clips for my NH-D14 since I wanted to use non-stock fans and they sent me like 10pcs and didn't even ask for shipping.Noctua is such a delightful company.
Following their tradition, they are offering free mounting kit for their existing line-up of cooling solutions. I just ordered a kit for my old, still rocking NH-D14.
You can order yours here.
I can't wait to get my hans on my 1700X
AMD IS BACK BABY!!!
Pagusas
Elden Member
what are the primary differences? Just less PCIE channels?
Papacheeks
Banned
M2 slot for one in most of the x370 boards. Along with Sli/Crossfire ability.
Terbinator
Member
I mean, the XFR feature of X R7s doesn't seem worth it. You're much better going with the X1700 by the looks of it and saving yourself some serious cash.
Yeah, that's what I was thinking. Gotta wait to see how these perform first before even considering dropping that much on a new processor. Hopefully the 6 core processors perform well.
I recently ordered an i7-7700k for 299 new which I have to pick up by tomorrow before it goes back on the shelves. I also found the MSI Gaming M5 mobo for 95. I was hoping more leaks or announcements from AMD would help me make my mind up. I am sticking with intel. My i5-3570k has been an OC'ed beast for years but I need higher single threaded performance now and faster RAM. At least this give intel some competition on the higher end lines, I just am not coming away convinced this is the intel beater they promised.
NoPiece
Member
When do you find it useful to have an iGPU, mainly for troubleshooting?
Pop-O-Matic
Banned
Piledriver was just an incremental upgrade over Bulldozer, barely and improvement.
sleepnaught
Member
How does Microcenter get away with much cheaper prices? And why is it store only? Thinking of hitting a buddy up in St Louis to do some shopping for me 
Anyone who preorders this without reviews is a fool after what happened with Bulldozer. Hype hype hype then utter shite. This might well be different but why take the chance?
Nostremitus
Member
so... 1700x or 1800x?
Regardless, it'll still be a step up from my 2500K.
I already ordered a chip for my wife. She's a graphic designer so... yeah... It's exactly what she's been needing for a price that makes sense.
I'm still trying to decide for my PC...
Regardless, it'll still be a step up from my 2500K.
I already ordered a chip for my wife. She's a graphic designer so... yeah... It's exactly what she's been needing for a price that makes sense.
I'm still trying to decide for my PC...
Noctua is such a delightful company.
Following their tradition, they are offering free mounting kit for their existing line-up of cooling solutions. I just ordered a kit for my old, still rocking NH-D14.
You can order yours here.
I can't wait to get my hans on my 1700X
AMD IS BACK BABY!!!
Yup. I've been with same Noctua NH-U12P (AM2/K8/s775) since 2008. Just a free mounting kit upgrade every time I've switched sockets.
Vinter
Member
Because you can just cancel the preorder if it comes to that. I can only speak for myself, but I have the parts for a build at home now. I have waited for the Ryzen chips to drop. If it is a flop, then I just change my order.
Osiris
I permanently banned my 6 year old daughter from using the PS4 for mistakenly sending grief reports as it's too hard to watch or talk to her
Troubleshooting, when between GPUs or waiting for a RMA, when I need to swap my GPU to another PC for a short time (sons PC etc). Not having to ever worry about not having my PC available because of a GPU related issue on any of my PCs is something I've got used to and like.
Nostremitus
Member
You could buy a cheap back-up GPU and still save money with AMDs new pricing.
RenegadeXV8
Banned
Cause anyone who paid attention to Bulldozer knew it was shit before reviews even hit. Even AMD knew it was shit, the top BD SKU was priced at $245.
Completely different situation.
Tacklemacain
Member
You can just get an old gpu for 20$, probably even less.
Pop-O-Matic
Banned
Personally, I'd rather just keep a GT 210 or something else really cheap sitting in a box JIC, and otherwise dedicate more of the die to the actual CPU.
papersleeves
Member
They are the exact same, albeit a 200mhz difference. They have the same specifications (same TDP, cache, etc).
brain_stew
Member
Cross posting from the other Ryzen thread, but the AAA game market has already moved on past 4 threads:
I've seen this mentioned multiple times with regards to Ryzen but the benchmarks in modern game engines just don't bear this out.
Lets look at some of the most popular and modern game engines and see how a lower clocked, lower IPC (the 3ghz 5960x Haswell-E) 8C/16T Intel CPU fairs. Bear in mind that leaked benchmarks are putting Ryzen above Broadwell-E in IPC with base clocks between 3.3-3.6ghz.
That's Anvil, Id Tech 6, Unreal Engine 4, Cryengine 3, Frostbite 3 and Dirupt all preferring more cores/threads over pure clock speed and IPC.
Given this, if Ryzen game benchmarks actually target modern games and focus on minimum performance and not just averages, Zen could end up fairing a lot better in gaming than many are expecting.
If a reviewer uses a bunch of DX9 games from years ago, then the picture may be different but surely that's missing the point?
ShadowKingpin
Member
Got my 1700X pre-ordered!
Sure. By virtue of consoles with lots of cores but weak IPC.
Osiris
I permanently banned my 6 year old daughter from using the PS4 for mistakenly sending grief reports as it's too hard to watch or talk to her
No discipline for keeping spares.
Usually for me, if it's spare, it for sale, and I wouldn't have a spare when I actually needed it, an iGPU has saved me from being pc-less for a week of two a few times, exciting to see AMD back in the game,my last AMD CPU was a trusty Athlon XP that served me well, just don't these offerings are for me yet but I'm excited most about what effect competition will have on the market.
Indeed
Bulldozer was never competitive
It even struggle to best Phenom
and the TDP was insane
Everything was wrong wit that chip, Ryzen is the complete opposite