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As someone that was burned hard by the OG 3DS, I can confirm you are wrong.
Hope we get some good stuff in the Switch ambassador program.
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Hope we get some good stuff in the Switch ambassador program.
MHWilliams
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Jason and Emily are big fans of Nintendo, but they are also honest. I'm sure the core fans aren't bothered by any of this news. but Ninty needs to sell this thing to people outside of that bubble too, doesn't seem like a good start.
It's quite clear that Nintendo is getting this out there because they told investors they'd have the system out in the fiscal year.
The systems we got were random. I have a grey unit. The reviewer who mentioned the issue has a Neon, so it's possible, but I can't confirm either way.
At launch, in the day one patch.
Jason and Emily are big fans of Nintendo, but they are also honest. I'm sure the core fans aren't bothered by any of this news. but Ninty needs to sell this thing to people outside of that bubble too, doesn't seem like a good start.
Legit complaints for some, certainly could be reason enough for some to hold off on the system, but not stuff I personally care about or think are non-starters. I think the lack/removal of Streetpass and Mii-Verse are the two bigger issues as we don't really have any indication of what will replace those two systems which is unfortunate as they really did enrich the gaming experience.
While the others are simply either a matter of time like the VC, which could be delayed for both strategic and technological reasons, or they're stuff I simply don't care about at all and aren't really that important to the success of the system; like video apps, browser and even activity log, though I expect all of these will appear at some point.
Not sure why anyone would expect anything better. No device does well under the sun. None of their past handhelds, not mobile phones/tablets, nothing. Unless it's got an e-ink display, which was never an option.
GinoFelino
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You're welcome
Seriously though the screen thing is fine. If you've ever used a modern screen outdoors, you know what to expect.
Jason and Emily are big fans of Nintendo, but they are also honest. I'm sure the core fans aren't bothered by any of this news. but Ninty needs to sell this thing to people outside of that bubble too, doesn't seem like a good start.
Yeah of all of these the lack of streaming apps and Virtual Console seem the most important. Could care less about Streetpass or Miiverse...
Hopefully they get more features set up by at least early Fall, where many will be ready to buy.
shanafan
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But when Sony announced the PS4, the general census was that it was a true gaming machine. Xbox One was too focused on TV and NFL Network integration, and not enough about games.
Have the tides changed in 4 years?
WordsintheWater
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Lol what?
"No Miiverse" is the strangest complaint I thought anyone would have.
So far most previews seems to enjoy the system. The joycon sync issue will likely be fixed before long. OS seems to be fast, control options are fine, Zelda boots quick, the hardware is sleek. No real issues to me, yet.
So far most previews seems to enjoy the system. The joycon sync issue will likely be fixed before long. OS seems to be fast, control options are fine, Zelda boots quick, the hardware is sleek. No real issues to me, yet.
broncobuster
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The same Nintendo that dropped the 3DS price by $80 after half a year.
Tal Shiar Agent
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You are the exact outlier that Nintendo is targeting with this launch.
You are basically beta testers. The real launch will be after the summer.
There is a difference between focusing on TV and video and having Netflix and Hulu apps from the start.
The_Darkest_Red
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No Activity Log is a huge bummer. Huge. One of the most underrated features of all time.
Skittzo0413
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Wii U launches with Miiverse, activity log (I think), and web browser, and everyone goes on rants about how slow and terrible the OS is.
Switch launches with a lean OS, none of the above, is super quick and responsive, and everyone goes on rants about how few features there are.
I don't really blame people for being a bit disappointed in how barebones it is (I mean, having a fast, snappy OS with all of these features is the ideal scenario) but from a usability standpoint isn't this far, far, better than the Wii U or 3DS were at launch?
Switch launches with a lean OS, none of the above, is super quick and responsive, and everyone goes on rants about how few features there are.
I don't really blame people for being a bit disappointed in how barebones it is (I mean, having a fast, snappy OS with all of these features is the ideal scenario) but from a usability standpoint isn't this far, far, better than the Wii U or 3DS were at launch?
See the thing is, you have no idea. Technically, neither do I, but it makes more sense to to me to say it's rushed than to say they are deliberately hamstringing the thing out the gate. It's already a pretty bad lineup outside of a few games. Either way it looks bad. Your way...it looks stupid/sinister.
Isn't there a web applet that takes care of web browser Wi-Fi log-ins? I recall it being mentioned in the dev kit leak.
Having a 5.5" 1080p phone right next to a 6" QHD phone right now I can say the difference is mild at best conditions and hard/very hard appreciate on regular usage.
To each their own, I dont see the interest on raising the resolution in such a small screen when you can get better autonomy/performance instead.
mte. Netflix/youtube on devices is a pretty big deal for consumers. Especially children.
Schnozberry
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There is a real disconnect between GAF and your average fan, but concerns being raised by Emily, Jason and people here are real and should be addressed. I just don't think they are that important to people who aren't neck deep in video games all the time.
Jason and Emily are big fans of Nintendo, but they are also honest. I'm sure the core fans aren't bothered by any of this news. but Ninty needs to sell this thing to people outside of that bubble too, doesn't seem like a good start.
These are legitimate concerns, but I couldn't care less about any of them, except for the synchronization issue.
ElectricBlanketFire
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This isn't true at all.
Blackleg-sanji1
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Exactly idk what he's on about.
I'm neck deep and i enjoy Netflix on everything. They can't keep targeting their hardcore forever
oh thank god. i dont care then. i got the idea from the thread that it was part of a bigger update in "the future" - i got this primarily for travel.
Activity log and Virtual console are features no one should expect/care about day one. Just because it doesn't have that stuff yet doesn't make it a half baked console.
Apps will be added soon enough. (Probably before E3) but it's a non-issue. Buy a console to play video games primarily, go buy a shitty tablet if you love Netflix so much. (Or better yet, go watch Netflix in your 3DS, since you love Netflix on game consoles so much)
Dude is straight up clickbaiting his tweets so people go read his review.
Apps will be added soon enough. (Probably before E3) but it's a non-issue. Buy a console to play video games primarily, go buy a shitty tablet if you love Netflix so much. (Or better yet, go watch Netflix in your 3DS, since you love Netflix on game consoles so much)
Dude is straight up clickbaiting his tweets so people go read his review.
The left joycon desynching issue aside, all other complaints are because of how they set expectations, I believe, especially the Virtual Console since some of them have been "leaking" VC as a day-1 feature, even if it's more of an extra feature than a true requirement. And Nintendo has already mentioned that Miiverse and Streetpass aren't coming back weeks ago so I'm not sure why it's necessary to bring it up when there's already a confirmation that it will not be there.
Man, I may be in the minority but I looved Miiverse and the Switch seems like the perfect device for it.
Don't care about playing old games on my new console or an activity log or streetpass... but Miiverse was so dumb it was great.
That was due to low sales. At least for the 3DS it was.
USC Trojan
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So no signs of an achievement/trophy type system?
Distresssss
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Same except the only legitimate concern I see is the lack of VC at launch besides the joycon problem.
Different strokes I guess.
I travel with work, journeys tend to last longer than 3hrs my vita or 3DS battery life cope with that, I want my purchase to be right for my needs. There are lots of devices offering 1080p and offer 3hrs of battery life under load.
Also adjust how you addressing me, I am not writing in an aggressive manner. I simply made my comment as I am unsure about the product and whether I am going to pick it up at launch or not. I am looking for advice and am inviting friendly discussion.
TangoAlphaLima
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I honestly can't remember, was the 3DS difficult to preorder? I didn't buy one at launch due to the high price tag, but I don't remember there being the fervor for 3DS preorders in the way there have been for the Switch. I think it's highly unlikely the system gets a price drop in 2017. (But I could see 1, 2 Switch packed in for a holiday bundle.)
That's a false dilemma.
You can be happy with the OS's usability while being disappointed with the lack of extra features; features/opinions don't compare quantitatively, so trying to measure which is the "far, far, better" launch is as subjective as any of the opinions people are agreeing/disagreeing with in this thread. That said people are far more vocal about negatives than positives, so discussion like that is bound to happen.
Mrstriker09
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ofcourse not lol
Okami Haundo
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I love Nintendo, but some of you are going absolutely insane with the defense force here. It's one thing to correct mis-information, but it's another to argue about whether or not the Switch is worth buying on day one.
Discussion is one thing, arguing is another. If you want Switch on day one, then don't berate someone who wants to hold off. Likewise, if you don't want it on day one don't be a dick to people that do.
Like... let's just talk about games and discuss things instead of fighting.
I was never going to change my mind when it comes to getting the Switch, but I'm super happy to see that the hardware seems to deliver. Software can and will change but messing up the tech that the software will run on is how you get another Wii-U.
Discussion is one thing, arguing is another. If you want Switch on day one, then don't berate someone who wants to hold off. Likewise, if you don't want it on day one don't be a dick to people that do.
Like... let's just talk about games and discuss things instead of fighting.
I was never going to change my mind when it comes to getting the Switch, but I'm super happy to see that the hardware seems to deliver. Software can and will change but messing up the tech that the software will run on is how you get another Wii-U.
I'll bite and repeat an earlier point.
If Nintendo wanted it to, VC would launch with the system.
If Nintendo wanted it to, Netflix/browser would launch with the system.
These are deliberate choices that people may or may not agree with, but they have nothing to do with a 'rushed launch'.
Nintendo want to pad out stuff like VC for the rest of the year instead of front-loading everything, and I personally don't think that's indefensible.
I sincerely doubt these features would have launched with the system whenever it would launch.
It's ready for launch, so there goes your point
So instead of launching a great console with lots of features then adding more over time, they're launching a barebones device then adding the basics over time. Wow, this sounds like a great deal for consumers.
Everything about the Switch just screams wait for 2019. I had one preordered to rent Zelda then sell off after during the launch shortage period, but even that didn't seem worth the effort for one game with so much else out.
I'm sorry what?
Yes they give a shit about it. Netflix/Youtube are huge in the portable business and the Switch is in that business.
There is a fine line between what us fans want from a launch (personally i'm 100% ok with not having any features, I really just want Zelda) and what the average consumer expects. No web browser is the one that would probably sting the most.
Is it really an issue if the problem gets fixed by the time any consumer gets the console?
Zelda will last me a long time especially since I work full time, and I have to clear out my PS3 backlog before buying any more games. VC games are the last thing on my mind lol
YuriLowell
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No. I walked into GameStop and bought one on launch day with no issues.
Surprised at all the complaints about the console being barebones. I thought people missed the times when you can just turn on your console and play a game? Switch is doing exactly that as best it can and the other stuff will come later. I'm glad there's not streetpass, miiverse or video apps. My phone is a better tool for that, and I can appreciate the switches plug and play mentality.
The joy-con issue is the most concerning thing for me at this point, but it doesn't seem to be widespread
The joy-con issue is the most concerning thing for me at this point, but it doesn't seem to be widespread
The only huge potential issue I see here is the connectivity issue and maybe the comfortability of the Joy-Cons themselves which everyone seems to have a different opinion about.
If you buy a launch console you know mostly what you are getting into. I don't see anything that looks noteworthy worse compared to other console launches which is overall a good sign.
If you buy a launch console you know mostly what you are getting into. I don't see anything that looks noteworthy worse compared to other console launches which is overall a good sign.
GinoFelino
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I'll pad this out here
