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Alien Covenant - Trailer 2
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This would be terrible
SmackAttack
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I'm way out of the loop on this movie. This is a sequel to Prometheus, right?
wesleyshark
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Black Mamba
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I love Alien. I was so hyped for Prometheus (which was simultaneously not good and not nearly as bad as people claim it to be).
I think I've come to the position that I just don't care too much about the Alien world.
Let me clarify. Alien, as a movie, was wonderful because it was a perfectly executed Jaws in space movie (Jaws being one of my favorite movies all time). The movie was horrifying. It played perfectly to a base fear of being in an enclosed space accidentally surrounded by a merciless killing machine that seems indestructible. It was also gross, ugly, etc. Everything about it was just terrifying from the facehugger to the burst to the growth to the final form.
The characters were also good. They weren't dumb. They acted like how non-military people would generally act. Ripley didn't survive because she was some amazingly smart/strong person but because of a combination of good survival use and luck. Everyone could believe they could have been Ripley in that situation. There was also good use of social commentary (like corporate greed).
Now, it seemed like I wanted to learn more about the Alien and the ship and the weapon like thing and the entity that also had its chest burst, etc. I mean, our natural inclination is to want to learn more about why what happened happened. But in reality, the fact that we know almost nothing about the Alien makes is scarier and the movie work better.
I've now realized I shouldn't care about the Aliens or now the Engineers or anything. It seems like whatever someone comes up with doesn't add anything to the story, in the end, for me.
I think Ridley trying to recreate the magic of the first is a mistake (not saying he is doing that here). It just can't be done. It was done and that's that. Cameron's sequel (which I also really liked) worked solely because he changed the genre in many ways.
Alien: Covenant might turn out okay. I might see it if the reviews tend to be positive. But I learned a lot from Prometheus and the hype I had towards it. And I realize that the backstory doesn't really do anything for me. I hope I'm wrong. I hope Ridley finds a new way to tell this story but i have my doubts.
BTW, to make it clear, this is only my viewpoint and my specific reaction. Because I've concluded I don't care about the background doesn't mean you should come to the same conclusion. This is a personal thing for me.
I think I've come to the position that I just don't care too much about the Alien world.
Let me clarify. Alien, as a movie, was wonderful because it was a perfectly executed Jaws in space movie (Jaws being one of my favorite movies all time). The movie was horrifying. It played perfectly to a base fear of being in an enclosed space accidentally surrounded by a merciless killing machine that seems indestructible. It was also gross, ugly, etc. Everything about it was just terrifying from the facehugger to the burst to the growth to the final form.
The characters were also good. They weren't dumb. They acted like how non-military people would generally act. Ripley didn't survive because she was some amazingly smart/strong person but because of a combination of good survival use and luck. Everyone could believe they could have been Ripley in that situation. There was also good use of social commentary (like corporate greed).
Now, it seemed like I wanted to learn more about the Alien and the ship and the weapon like thing and the entity that also had its chest burst, etc. I mean, our natural inclination is to want to learn more about why what happened happened. But in reality, the fact that we know almost nothing about the Alien makes is scarier and the movie work better.
I've now realized I shouldn't care about the Aliens or now the Engineers or anything. It seems like whatever someone comes up with doesn't add anything to the story, in the end, for me.
I think Ridley trying to recreate the magic of the first is a mistake (not saying he is doing that here). It just can't be done. It was done and that's that. Cameron's sequel (which I also really liked) worked solely because he changed the genre in many ways.
Alien: Covenant might turn out okay. I might see it if the reviews tend to be positive. But I learned a lot from Prometheus and the hype I had towards it. And I realize that the backstory doesn't really do anything for me. I hope I'm wrong. I hope Ridley finds a new way to tell this story but i have my doubts.
BTW, to make it clear, this is only my viewpoint and my specific reaction. Because I've concluded I don't care about the background doesn't mean you should come to the same conclusion. This is a personal thing for me.
Violence Jack
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Watch Walter not be his real name or something.
I'm hyped. Already looks to be more coherent than Prometheus, and back to its survival horror roots.
SmackAttack
Member
Thanks. For some reason, seeing Fassbender there threw me for a minute when I remembered what happened to his character at the end of that movie.
they are leaving room for android names in the other 18 prequel films that take place between this film and Prometheus. They want to clear up all the mysteries of the alien origin story.
Bobby Roberts
Banned
Probably would be, yeah.
But it also seems to line up with Ridley's storytelling inclinations as of late.
Bobby Roberts
Banned
Well, shit.
wesleyshark
Banned
He's playing a different version of that model, named Walter. He'll also be playing David, in whatever form or reconstruction he's currently in post-Prometheus
jack_package_200
Banned
For some reason, when I saw that I thought of Aliens vs Jason or Aliens vs Freddy Krueger and I got really hype for a second.
molnizzle
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Is this Prometheus planet or somewhere else?
Just trying to figure if/how any of this actually fits together.
At the end of Prometheus Lizbeth Salandar and Magneto take off and fly away. In this movie, the Love Boat lands on a different planet some years later and it seems to be the planet that Lizbeth and Magneto landed on.
wesleyshark
Banned
This is at a different planet. It'll be same one where David's head and Shaw ended up.
SmackAttack
Member
Ah, I get it now. Thank you for clarifying.
Fancy Clown
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Whack as fuck
there's only one Alien in 3
I lol'd.
If Prometheus wasn't what it was it could've been vs. scientists...
That's awesome, never noticed that before.
Too bad the screenwriter didn't notice it either lol.
There's more than 1 seeing how one should come out of someone's chest and another will come out of someone's back as shown in the 1st trailer.
Garcia el Gringo
Member
The Queen chestbuster inside Ripley makes it plural? Idk.
wesleyshark
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The theorizing in my brain over how David would have come to acquire a new body is as intriguing as potentially horrifying
Violence Jack
Member
Aliens vs Ninjas confirmed.
Aliens vs Idiots should have had a screenshot from AvP: Requiem.
Def David. Would be cool if Shaw. Maybe it's Vickers! She survived the donut
Glass Rebel
Member
Nah, it sucked.
Bobby Roberts
Banned
This is good
Oh for fucks sake.
MasterMenace
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Looks way too actiony...zzz
Patrick Bateman
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Looks like that same old "some dumbass sticks his head over an alien egg". They also showed too much of the Alien already, imo.
wesleyshark
Banned
I'm thinking there's something else in the cards they aren't showing
They showed the Neomorph pretty clear in this, too.
BattleMonkey
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All I ask that they drop the rumored
. We don't need that, and even if the movie turns out ok, that shit is gonna really dampen the mood for me with it's stupidity.
lead being related to Ripley garbage
Alien3 sould be "Alien Vs Convicts"
The queen larva and multiple face huggers counts as a plural IMO
WadiumArcadium
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Preferred this trailer to the first but I'm still not that confident.
Turin Turambar
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It looks like an Alien movie, yep.
In fact it looks like a movie I already have seen. So why watch it again??
In fact it looks like a movie I already have seen. So why watch it again??
ChosenPredator
Banned
heck wish they made a predator movie solid like this...just go back to soldiers vs a single predator in a jungle or desert or something. (no not that one they get captured and forced on a predator planet)
I'd watch a Predator film set in the future, surprised that they haven't tried to be honest.
Anywho I think this looks pretty cool all things considered. My expectations are pretty low after Prometheus but I'm not seeing anything too off-putting here.
Technically you're correct, but technically there was only one xeno stalking the prison.
Count Dookkake
Member
Yeah, this was a fun pattern. Maybe the screenwriter erred on the side of subtlety.
Walter
Wally
Wall-E
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wants to fuck an Asian grill.
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