Link's Adventure.
This is making me think of Back to the Future.
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This is making me think of Back to the Future.
PadWarrior
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Oh nice didn't know about that.
UrbanDandy
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Link's Adventure.
Is there video of this?
JimJamJones
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So has it been determined which timeline this ends up on?
Child and adult both seem to have logical points.
Child and adult both seem to have logical points.
In one cutscene, Zelda refers to the Master sword as having been "skyward bound, adrift in time, and passed through the embers of twilight," which suggests Child timeline.
JimJamJones
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That's what I thought, but didn't the king also say that the princess and her hero sealed Ganon away (as in OoT)? That would imply adult timeline, would it not?
Chained Prometheus
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Based on the clues we have so far, it looks like it's either the Child or Downfall timeline. And no matter which of the two it is, it's very clearly at the farthest end of its timeline by a large margin.
That's true, and it also references Ruto and Nabooru as sages, which would suggest Adult.
Honestly, my personal opinion is that they're all just legends, so who even knows.
Yeah, in 10,000 years since the first calamity, which happened after the Ocarina of Time, most details of the past are gonna be long forgotten or misinterpreted. I think we really can't honestly tell where this game takes place, all we know is that it takes place at the very end of one of the timelines, and best bet is downfall as the first Great Cataclysm and the topic of Ganon's Malice was mentioned by the King and Zelda's diary. Both of which are part of the important backstory of A Link to the Past.
The thing the King of Hyrule talks about first is like 99% the Imprisoning War which would make it Downfall timeline. Only real difference is that instead of the Knights of Hyrule defeating Ganon they built the Guardians to help with that shit. But it is insanely close to the Imprisoning War.
Problem with Child is OoT didn't happen in that timeline.
I don't think he was talking about the Imprisoning War, but of an event that they orchestrated based after what little information they had of the first War which happened 10,000 year ago. I think he tried to replicate it as they feared the rise of Ganon.
Ohhhhhh that would actually make a lot of sense. And would basically confirm Downfall as well
They just used those words to pay homage to other games, similar to Easter eggs. This is clearly in the DF timeline.
Yeah Downfall is the only one that makes sense given that two conditions must be fulfilled.
1. Ruto must awaken as Sage
2. Hyrule can't be flooded.
Granted, why the fuck did the gods flood Hyrule when Ganondorf returned but not when he came back as malevolent force of nature? Then again, Wind Waker intro Ganon does resemble Calamity Ganon a great bit. But still, why no flooderino, did the differences in events unfold in a way that led the gods to believe the Shiekah had shit under control?
1. Ruto must awaken as Sage
2. Hyrule can't be flooded.
Granted, why the fuck did the gods flood Hyrule when Ganondorf returned but not when he came back as malevolent force of nature? Then again, Wind Waker intro Ganon does resemble Calamity Ganon a great bit. But still, why no flooderino, did the differences in events unfold in a way that led the gods to believe the Shiekah had shit under control?
Because there was no Hero. In the adult timeline, the spirit of the hero was completely removed from time and space and therefore couldn't be resurrected. In the Downfall Timeline, that's not an issue, the spirit is still being resurrected.
I kind of feel like they put it references to ALL of the timelines, just to make people argue/make their own decision.
The King describes the Sealing War, which makes it Downfall timeline.
Zelda references the Twilight Realm, which makes it Child timeline.
Ruto and Nabooru are mentioned as sages, which makes it Adult timeline.
It's all of them and none of them. I think Nintendo is being purposefully obscure.
Übermatik;231274146 said:
Just curious when the thread is going up? The game is released in some territories in about 14 hours. Will it be before that? Sometimes at GAF the thread makers seem to forget about other countries and then we have no where to talk after weve started the game...
Inferno313
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Any references to Fi at all? Just curious, as she's still technically asleep inside the Master Sword, no? I forget how SS ended...
There's a reference to a voice coming from the Master Sword, (Zelda asks Link if he's heard it) but that all I've seen.
Is it a full-length dungeon or another shrine?
Because in Windwaker they expected the Hero to return to face Ganondorf which didn't happen because Zelda goofed up and sent Link back home so as a last retorts they prayed to the gods which caused the flooding.
I am guessing in Breath of the Wild the people didn't pray to the gods as they felt that Zelda had it under control.
King Zora in BotW says that if nothing was done the elephant beast would flood the world.
Existence of Twilight Realm isn't timeline dependent. Sages would also be in Downfall, all 3 point work with Downfall.
Inferno313
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So, is Link in the past just some dude? I remember that all of us were speculating that he was a previous Link, but it sounds like this is a particularly stand-alone narrative, even for Zelda?
Professor Beef
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I'm late as hell, but yeah there are indestructible weapons in the game. Seems like they have to be combined with other things beforehand, however. Master Sword + Helix Blade(?) is one of them. For sure the trident the Zoras give you can be combined with another specific trident to make it indestructible.
Do you mean previous Link as in one that we played as in the previous games? If so, then yeah its looking like its a new Link. He just has a history already of being involved in the Calamity or whatever.
Inferno313
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Yeah, sorry if that was phrased poorly. Makes sense!
archvile7
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Is it possible that they designed this game to function as a convergence of all of the existing timelines? Because there are elements from both the Child and Adult/Downfall timelines.
That's not how time works; if all three timeline merged, the entirety of time and space would be in chaos. We would have multiple version of the complete Triforce and two spirits of the hero. Locations that exist in one timeline would smash into a similar, but completely different areas in a different timeline, causing untold destruction. We're talking about the entire world in complete ruins, not just towns and villages.
It's also been more than 10,000 years since Ocarina of Time, the races seen in Wind Waker likely evolved much more slowly in the Downfall Timeline. It took a few hundred years for the Rito to evolve from the Zora, I can see them taking 9000 or so years to do the same under less extreme environments.
XANDER CAGE
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This game really feels like a figurative "convergence" of timelines, rather than a literal one which is what I was sort of expecting. I really get a vibe of it paying homage to everything that happened in the past before they move on to something entirely new. I don't think this game is going to fit neatly into any preexisting concept of the Zelda timeline.
archvile7
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I know that's not how time works. I meant it more as Nintendo trying to fix their mess of a timeline structure they have created more so than literal timelines converging. That's why I said "function as" a convergence, meaning it's not literally what did or didn't or could have happened, but it's more so now they can say, "hey, here is a Zelda game 10,000 years down the road, so far away from any other game that we're going to take elements from all the previous timelines, merge them together, now we are back to just one sensible timeline".
It does, especially with Ganon giving up his ability to ever reincarnate again in his final form.
stan423321
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From what I understand though, the Witcher universe actually features an event like that in backstory, this is not something particularly hard to introduce to franchise which has been subject to loads of unrealistic phenomena like Twilight Realm rules of existence somehow invading the regular world.
It certainly references a lot. As it stands, downfall is the only timeline that can reasonably handle all of them. OoT sages being referenced nixes Child Timeline, and a ton of stuff nixes Adult Timeline. Downfall is a timeline that can easily have parallels to Child Timeline and references from Adult timeline have been few and minor in a way that couldn't be explained for the other timelines.
Yabberwocky
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Nintendo, don't you take Ganondorf's beautiful hair away from me permanently, especially considering how amazing the Gerudo ladies look in BotW. I can't believe how superb the character design for BotW is, and we're not getting Ganondorf.
we could have had The Hair sob
He has kind of an ugly mane while in his first form. But when he turns into the boar, Zelda says he's given up on ever reincarnating and is using his full power and the power of malice...then he just stands there and let's you kill him
He has kind of an ugly mane while in his first form. But when he turns into the boar, Zelda says he's given up on ever reincarnating and is using his full power and the power of malice...then he just stands there and let's you kill him
Poor bastard finally wants to die after getting sealed in Ocarina's Downfall universe, killed in LttP, resurrected and killed in the Oracle games and Link Between Worlds, and Zelda 1, and the backstory of Breath of the World... feel bad for him at this point.
Whatever humanity is in that beast, it clearly longs for death. I mean, it seems like the Sheikah were experimenting with his being under the castle in the laboratory. He's become nothing more than a lab rat, an experiment. And at the very end of the game, it seems he wasn't even granted his death, it looked like Zelda has sealed him off somewhere else. Poor bastard.
JimmySlippers
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any wii u streams out there tonight?
Yabberwocky
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He has kind of an ugly mane while in his first form. But when he turns into the boar, Zelda says he's given up on ever reincarnating and is using his full power and the power of malice...then he just stands there and let's you kill him
Shit, that's surprisingly depressing.
I hadn't realized about the Sheikah experimenting on him - that explains the design. It's even more depressing!
archvile7
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I thought the whole thing was Zelda was keeping him sealed in Hyrule Castle with her power? This...changes things.
archvile7
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So, this is what, the 3rd Zelda where you fight Ganon in an open field in Hyrule? Cmon, Nintendo.
SargerusBR
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The dark beast look sucks to me. Looks like a dark souls generic design mixed with the terrible Twilight form. Nintendo might as well make giga bowser for MARIO fans and make Studio Ghibli rip offs were every enemy is covered in living tar liquids mixed with worms and eyeballs.And Ganon's final form looks cool, but yeah seems to be super easy and more of a 'flashy' final battle since the attack he does is kind of piss easy to dodge while on a horse.
WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAT
It's just speculation but we have an evil looking lab under the castle and supposedly Ganon came from under the castle, and he is a hideous abomination mixed in with that technology. I don't see Ganon as the type to merge with that technology and turning into that abomination, he believes in pure raw power, like his last form in the game.
Even then, I don't think Ganon has the knowledge to understand how to merge with it. Ganon at this point in time is mostly thoughtless, just a manifestation of hate and evil, it is nothing more than a force of nature now. Only an intelligent being with the knowledge of the technology would understand how to merge Ganon with it, and since this is Sheikah technology we're talking about...
Weren't there assassins in the game that wear Sheikah masks? It might be them that actually merge him with the tech. So one of these two is possible. Regardless, it seems Ganon is nothing more than a tool for other to use, just like he was with Yuga.
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