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[Joni]

Oh, I see. Gotcha. I think you'll enjoy it when you do get to see it. (I don't know who Octavia is, but I understood the two other references.)

Fix that! The 100.

No clue until S3 begins. If the ratings fall between a .6 and a .8, then it will be safe, as that seems to be the new normal for the CW.

Its average will not make it to 0.6. But it will require only a 0.4 to 0.5 for renewal.

I know iZombie S3 hasn't started, but does it have a good chance of being renewed? Its like the best show CW has.

I guess it could be able to get another season, but given the spot (Friday) and the already not-too-great ratings of S2 I fear for the worst.

CW tends to give shows 4 seasons once they make it to 3, so I'm not too worried about it yet. Now if you're a fan of The Originals on the other hand...

It doesn't have the longevity advantage that a typical third season gives. It will only have 45 episodes by the time the third season ends. I still think it will be up for renewal, as The CW tends to allow final seasons even if they think about cancelling something. It is also a very small ensemble cast where you could reduce to the core three, it fills a crime procedural niche and it can't be that expensive. At the same time, I'm thinking this would be a great show for summers. Beauty and the Beast didn't lose much in the move, no reason for iZombie to.

 

[Pachimari]

- Riverdale renewed for S2 by CW

FUCK YES!!!

The one renewal I really wanted. Now we just need Agents of Shield and Gotham to be officially renewed and I am set for next season.

 

[Kevin]

FUCK YES!!!

The one renewal I really wanted. Now we just need Agents of Shield and Gotham to be officially renewed and I am set for next season.

THIS!!!

 

[Aiii]

Seriously, I cannot stress this enough... If you are currently not watching This Is Us.... GO WATCH IT NOW.

It is the highlight of this season and then some. It's just so damn perfect. The actors in it are perfect. The characters they play are perfect. The entire structure of the show, also perfect.

IT IS THE BEST SHOW. Give it all the awards, please.

 

[Rhaknar]

would a Agents of Shield renewal be more or less of a miracle than Riverdale? More considering its ABC vs CW right?

 

[LFMartins86]

would a Agents of Shield renewal be more or less of a miracle than Riverdale? More considering its ABC vs CW right?

More. Riverdale has the Netflix deal and is significantly cheaper, Agents Of Shield must be costing quite a bit given the quality of the CGI they had this season.

 

[faridmon]

Get out.

Lol

I really want to give Incorporated another chance, but that first 2 episodes were rough

Seriously, I cannot stress this enough... If you are currently not watching This Is Us.... GO WATCH IT NOW.

It is the highlight of this season and then some. It's just so damn perfect. The actors in it are perfect. The characters they play are perfect. The entire structure of the show, also perfect.

IT IS THE BEST SHOW. Give it all the awards, please.

Everyone is talking about it.

Might have to bite the bullet and watch it,

 

[Jason Frost]

Not this again, Ill never forget when they made it seem like things were positive in this vague speak, and we ended up having freshman series Limitless not renewed.

Yeah, I remember that too:
http://deadline.com/2016/03/les-moonves-cbs-plans-renew-new-series-1201716171/

And then, they cancelled Limitless, Rush Hour and like Supergirl in a way.

 

[Zero315]

I think iZombie will be fine. The ratings for season 2 weren't terrible and its semi-lighthearted tone lends some diversity to their lineup. Plus the futures of Frequency, No Tomorrow, and The Originals are looking grim. Add that on to the fact that Reign, TVD, and BatB are gone. I could see them keeping iZombie for at least another season.

Seriously, I cannot stress this enough... If you are currently not watching This Is Us.... GO WATCH IT NOW.

It is the highlight of this season and then some. It's just so damn perfect. The actors in it are perfect. The characters they play are perfect. The entire structure of the show, also perfect.

IT IS THE BEST SHOW. Give it all the awards, please.

I watched the first episode and thought it was good, but it just didn't stick with me for some reason. Maybe I'll go binge the rest of the season now.

Edit:

Yeah, I remember that too:
http://deadline.com/2016/03/les-moonves-cbs-plans-renew-new-series-1201716171/

And then, they cancelled Limitless, Rush Hour and like Supergirl in a way.

It was a blessing in disguise for Supergirl. The action and CG took a hit but everything else dramatically improved.

 

[maxcriden]

Seriously, I cannot stress this enough... If you are currently not watching This Is Us.... GO WATCH IT NOW.

It is the highlight of this season and then some. It's just so damn perfect. The actors in it are perfect. The characters they play are perfect. The entire structure of the show, also perfect.

IT IS THE BEST SHOW. Give it all the awards, please.

Everyone is talking about it.

Might have to bite the bullet and watch it,

I watched the first episode and thought it was good, but it just didn't stick with me for some reason. Maybe I'll go binge the rest of the season now.

Yeah, it's really good. There are a couple pacing missteps for me, and twists at times feel for the sake of it, but mostly I have been very keen on it. Be sure to come join us in the OT when you're caught up!

http://m.neogaf.com/showthread.php?t=1282784&page=1

 

[dead souls]

would a Agents of Shield renewal be more or less of a miracle than Riverdale? More considering its ABC vs CW right?

Literally the only hope AoS has is that Disney orders ABC to renew it. Other than that I can't imagine a reason why they'd renew a show that is getting CW ratings.

 

[Penguin]

would a Agents of Shield renewal be more or less of a miracle than Riverdale? More considering its ABC vs CW right?

I'd say AoS because there's no upside... it has enough money for Disney to sell it into syndication... it does more harm than good for their brand on ABC (one of the reasons think Agent Carter did so poorly) and focus seems to be on the inhumans for the fall.

That said... Tues numbers!

 

[morningbus]

I wonder if Flash will adjust up. I think that's a series low, if not. Also a low for Legends.

 

[watership]

would a Agents of Shield renewal be more or less of a miracle than Riverdale? More considering its ABC vs CW right?

Much more. CW is not as cancel happy as the other networks and AOS has a pretty large budget. That show is constantly large in scale and effects.

 

[Bladenic]

This is Us is like the only new hit tv show. It even gets higher ratings than the Voice wtf

 

[Penguin]

I wonder if Flash will adjust up. I think that's a series low, if not. Also a low for Legends.

It has gone fractional before

Think hovers at .9/1.1 nowadays

 

[Cornballer]

- Deadline: Tom Hardy Drama ‘Taboo’ Renewed For Season 2 By BBC One & FX

BBC One and FX are reteaming with Ridley Scott’s Scott Free London and Tom Hardy’s Hardy Son & Baker for a second season of Taboo. The high-profile period series that stars Hardy and is created by Peaky Blinders‘ Steven Knight with Hardy and his dad, Chips Hardy, had been expected to return. Knight recently told Deadline he’s got plans for three seasons.

 

[morningbus]

It has gone fractional before

Think hovers at .9/1.1 nowadays

Are you sure? I think the last time it went fractional it got adjusted up later.

If this sticks it will be the series low in the demo (at least going by a quick glance of Wikipedia).

 

[Grizzlyjin]

CW being down this week would make sense. Half their audience is in Fort Lauderdale right now, stumbling out of America's Backyard.

 

[The Hobo]

Bull seems to doing well. Is that show any good?

 

[Tragicomedy]

Seriously, I cannot stress this enough... If you are currently not watching This Is Us.... GO WATCH IT NOW.

It is the highlight of this season and then some. It's just so damn perfect. The actors in it are perfect. The characters they play are perfect. The entire structure of the show, also perfect.

IT IS THE BEST SHOW. Give it all the awards, please.

Couldn't agree more. I'm on episode four and it's been absolutely sublime.

 

[KonradLaw]

- Deadline: Tom Hardy Drama ‘Taboo’ Renewed For Season 2 By BBC One & FX

Awesome. Was getting worried there for a bit.

 

[Cornballer]

- Deadline: Showtime Bringing ‘Billions’ Back For A Third Season

 

[RatskyWatsky]

With Bates Motel ending in a month or so, A&E is down to just The Frankenstein Chronicles and reality garbage, and the only thing I can find in development is Jake Gyllenhaal's production company working on a Jonestown series which hasn't been mentioned since being announced -- and HBO is also working on a Jonestown series with Vince Gilligan so I honestly doubt the Gyllenhaal project will happen. And Frankenstein Chronicles is a US syndication of a British show. Another network out of original programming?

Speaking of that, everyone thinks Logo is being shut down since RuPaul's Drag Race got moved to Bravo for this season and Logo has nothing else.

In other news, Dish Network dropped carriage for Chiller, the horror network, this month and Charter is about to, so who thinks Chiller will still exist a year from now? NBC has already closed """"Cloo""" and the Esquire Network. It's moot since they don't have any original programming in the works anyway, but yeah...

In other news:

Ovation TV Developing ‘Hot Art’ Scripted Drama Series

Ovation TV is developing Hot Art, an hourlong scripted drama series based on the book by Canadian journalist Joshua Knelman, Hot Art: Chasing Thieves and Detectives Through the Secret World of Stolen Art. UK-based writer Simeon Thornton (Sovereign) will pen the adaptation and Storyscape Entertainment’s Bob Cooper will produce. This marks Ovation TV’s first scripted series.

Hot Art is described as a drama series that offers a fresh, contemporary take on the world of art crime. Set in London, the center of the global art market, the show follows a squad of elite Scotland Yard undercover police agents tasked with solving art crimes… and catching the criminals who aim to keep one step ahead of them.

 

[Slayven]

Damn I read this thread and saw all the channels shuttering. Loved Cloo

 

[dead souls]

- Deadline: Showtime Bringing ‘Billions’ Back For A Third Season

Well deserved. It took a while to win me over in the first season but it's been consistently great since then.

 

[PHOENIXZERO]

Not surprised by the Riverdale renewal, that Netflix and other deals have probably already made it pretty lucrative for WB and CW.

Yeah, I remember that too:
http://deadline.com/2016/03/les-moonves-cbs-plans-renew-new-series-1201716171/

And then, they cancelled Limitless, Rush Hour and like Supergirl in a way.

I know I'm still salty on that PR talk and the end of Limitless.

 

[kevin1025]

- Deadline: Tom Hardy Drama ‘Taboo’ Renewed For Season 2 By BBC One & FX

Now we're cooking. I figured it would come back since it's doing great on BBC, but it's always nice to see. It's super weird to have all my favorites getting renewed, every year there's usually one that gets killed off in a sad way.

- Deadline: Showtime Bringing ‘Billions’ Back For A Third Season

I need to catch up on the new season, I've been going through mostly the HBO recent stuff in my catch-up marathons. But I liked the hell out of the first season, stock and finance mumjo-jumbo included. Giamatti and Lewis at each other's throats (and some Maggie Siff thrown in there) is too good to pass up.

But it's also Showtime... so a third season could go either way!

 

[Linkura]

With Bates Motel ending in a month or so, A&E is down to just The Frankenstein Chronicles and reality garbage, and the only thing I can find in development is Jake Gyllenhaal's production company working on a Jonestown series which hasn't been mentioned since being announced -- and HBO is also working on a Jonestown series with Vince Gilligan so I honestly doubt the Gyllenhaal project will happen. And Frankenstein Chronicles is a US syndication of a British show. Another network out of original programming?

Unless that's their endgame, it's their own damn faults. We knew 2 years ago that Bates Motel would end this season. They knew they needed something substantial in the pipeline.

 

[jrush64]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YhhryDyDZtQ

iZombie S3 BABY!! 10 seconds but its amazing.

 

[Rhaknar]

Stump reading about the Iron Fist reviews:

 

[ksdixon]

Do we know if Timeless is getting picked up for a 2nd season?

 

[Jason Frost]

Do we know if Timeless is getting picked up for a 2nd season?

Not yet.

 

[morningbus]

Stump reading about the Iron Fist reviews:

stump right now:

 

[StrongBlackVine]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YhhryDyDZtQ

iZombie S3 BABY!! 10 seconds but its amazing.

Nice. Outside of The Walking Dead I generally only watch TV shows once they hit Netflix or Amazon Video, but I have enjoyed the first two seasons of iZombie a lot. Makes for great binge viewing.

 

[Karu]

- Deadline: Showtime Bringing ‘Billions’ Back For A Third Season

I have finished the first season the other day and while the cast is great, the premise is interesting and the first half of the first season was a great set-up everything after and the realization that they put this through the ringer for the next 6-8 years, made me sour on the show damn quickly. As it is on Netflix I will continue to watch for now, but man... been there, done that - The Show #21.

 

[Stumpokapow]

Stump reading about the Iron Fist reviews:

stump right now:

I'm just saying that if Iron Fist is half as good as the reviews suggest, it'll be the best superhero show on television by far.

 

[morningbus]

I'm just saying that if Iron Fist is half as good as the reviews suggest, it'll be the best superhero show on television by far.

Unfortunately you gotta adjust for that Mahvel bias.

 

[ZeoVGM]

Damn shame about Iron Fist considering how good the current comic TV output is. :\

I guess there was bound to be a stinker eventually.

 

[kevin1025]

Damn shame about Iron Fist considering how good the current comic TV output is. :\

I guess there was bound to be a stinker eventually.

It's the Netflix TV show curse. A lot of the shows (not all, but a lot) feel like there's no episode structure, just continuous scene-to-scene antics broken up into hour-long segments. It was bound to crack at some point.

Despite this, I still like quite a bit of their output (some far more than others).

 

[dead souls]

It's the Netflix TV show curse. A lot of the shows (not all, but a lot) feel like there's no episode structure, just continuous scene-to-scene antics broken up into hour-long segments. It was bound to crack at some point.

Despite this, I still like quite a bit of their output (some far more than others).

I've watched a bunch of Netflix stuff and they're almost all flabby messes, even an almost great (at times) show like Orange is the New Black. Their shows need smaller episode orders and shorter running times. The Marvel shows should never have an episode longer than 42-45 minutes.

The only one I've watched that didn't overstay its welcome was Stranger Things.

 

[Joni]

I've watched a bunch of Netflix stuff and they're almost all flabby messes, even an almost great (at times) show like Orange is the New Black. Their shows need smaller episode orders and shorter running times. The Marvel shows should never have an episode longer than 42-45 minutes.

The only one I've watched that didn't overstay its welcome was Stranger Things.

Indeed. It is not because you have the freedom to do 50 minute episodes that you should do 50 minute episodes. Unless they accept that they need competent filler.

 

[RatskyWatsky]

I've watched a bunch of Netflix stuff and they're almost all flabby messes, even an almost great (at times) show like Orange is the New Black. Their shows need smaller episode orders and shorter running times. The Marvel shows should never have an episode longer than 42-45 minutes.

The only one I've watched that didn't overstay its welcome was Stranger Things.

I don't think shorter seasons should necessarily be a rule, but I do think that after 4 years Netflix should have learned that the "this is all one big novel" sort of storytelling structure is very very difficult to do for longer than 8-10 hours.

 

[Rhaknar]

Also in the show itself front, its baffling that the guy behind it is talking abiut a grounded story with little mysticism like we are back in 2008 and Dr.Strange and crazy GotG shit didnt happen.

I thought Marvel had more input on this shit?

 

[kevin1025]

Also in the show itself front, its baffling that the guy behind it is talking abiut a grounded story with little mysticism like we are back in 2008 and Dr.Strange and crazy GotG shit didnt happen.

I thought Marvel had more input on this shit?

Well, it's the same showrunner that ended a show with metaphorical promises of "a storm is coming", and then a literal storm showed up.

He's not subtle, haha.

But he did write for Rome and Six Feet Under, which came as a surprise.

 

[Joni]

Also in the show itself front, its baffling that the guy behind it is talking abiut a grounded story with little mysticism like we are back in 2008 and Dr.Strange and crazy GotG shit didnt happen.

I thought Marvel had more input on this shit?

Feige doesn't give a fuck about the shows.

 

[Patryn]

Feige doesn't give a fuck about the shows.

When Feige staged his coup, he only took the movie studios. The TV shows are still under Perlmutter, so Feige has zero input in any of them (not that, as you are correct, he ever gave a fuck about them).

 

[KonradLaw]

I've watched a bunch of Netflix stuff and they're almost all flabby messes, even an almost great (at times) show like Orange is the New Black. Their shows need smaller episode orders and shorter running times. The Marvel shows should never have an episode longer than 42-45 minutes.

The only one I've watched that didn't overstay its welcome was Stranger Things.

Longmire doesn't have this problem either. It did came from other channel though, but at Netflix they turned it a lot more serialized, yet still managed to maintain the tightness of episodes.

 

[KonradLaw]

But he did write for Rome and Six Feet Under, which came as a surprise.

He's just terrible showrunner. As just one of the guys in writing room he does fine. He wrote plenty of great Dexter episodes

 

[Dedication Through Light]

I hope Designated Survivor didnt have any loss after its break. Enjoyed yesterdays episode.