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The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild |OT2| It's 98 All Over Again
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I don't believe anybody is complaining because they're running out of weapons. The fact that there is an abundance makes the system pointless. It just adds inventory management busywork.
Neoleo2143
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Hmm, can't say I really agree with Jim on parts of his review. particularly on shrines, that stuff's kinda his fault entirely.
He can have his preferences and score them as such. But I don't think his criticism is particularly strong.
He can have his preferences and score them as such. But I don't think his criticism is particularly strong.
DrForester
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So, you can't max out both Stamina and Health permanently? Just via rest/food/etc. bonuses?
2Smashed4U
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Likewise, it's perfectly valid for me to think that "but I can't keep the cool ones" is a dumb complaint and that, if as a reviewer, you aren't able to step out of your comfort zone, your opinion doesn't really hold a lot of weight to me.
CrazyHorse
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How do I keep avoiding that long cutscene with
everytime I fail to beat the
Riju
divive beat with the legs?
Last I checked, 7/10 is good...
Astral Dog
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So much for Ocarina 2
Deckard Chapel
Banned
Yeah it really feels like Jim only gave it a 7 just to fuck up the Metacritic score. After looking at the review, some of his points are valid - but to score it lower than Horizon is insane.
He obviously did it just to spite Nintendo.
Oh well.
Rebel Leader
THE POWER OF BUTTERSCOTCH BOTTOMS
Yes you can teleport back to that beasts.
The game will give you a warning when that is not possible
Riposte
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Yeah, at this point, I'm carrying 3-4 great weapons for really hard fights or showing off, 3-4 good weapons for mid-bosses or higher tier foes, and a bunch of "find excuse to use these before I find another chest" as a buffer for using the previous two groups. It's non-issue in terms of inconvenience, just encourages slightly smarter play and makes me care a little more about finding loot.
EDIT: Thinking Sterling is trying to fuck with the metacritic is kind of silly. He really dislike mechanics like durability and stamina - this is nothing new or foreign.
psychowave
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I'm not saying anything about his review either way (I haven't even read it), but the argument that he couldn't possibly benefit from clickbait is flat out wrong.
EmCeeGramr
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Astral Dog
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We all know critics don't tend to use the 1/10 scale
It seems you skipped a lot of posts because it's one of the main complaint on Gaf about the game, lol Same for Jim it seems.
Probably close to 50, I've stopped following story before the boss of the first dungeon (I've done some parts to access two other dungeons, though). I feel bad for Zelda who is waiting, but exploring the map is great. Filling the encyclopedia, too.
I'll try to see if you can change the language (or look for videos}, I'm curious... I find it decent in french. The take on the character is interesting, too.
2Smashed4U
Banned
...then how does he benefit from it exactly? lol
Getting your name out there doesn't really mean anything if you can't leverage it for something. And the guy is already fairly well known, I'm not sure how being the Armond White of video games is exactly beneficial to him.
QuixoticNeutral
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(Continued from here and here.)
I'm now up to 94 shrines and 153 Koroks (roughly a third of those Koroks in the past two nights, found in the course of sweeping the map for a tiny handful of shrines), and it definitely feels as though I am finally reaching the saturation point where I might want to think about looking at the main quest.
In the meantime, however, I've been busying myself with combat: killed my first Guardian on Friday night and took down my first Lynel about an hour later. For the Lynels, the key was really just to get to the point of surviving long enough to learn their pattern, and since then I've been farming them for materials quite consistently, putting them towards
, even though I still take enough damage from fighting them to necessitate stocking up on Hearty food and ammunition in advance.
It's been an invigorating experience to pick difficult fights, as it's broken me through the progression glut of filling my inventory with high-end weapons I don't want to waste on basic enemies: now I'm expending them, looting some more, then expending those as well on the next kill. A late-game sense of difficulty balance and progression (mostly in the form of
) is still here, even 100 hours in. With respect to weapons, I was surprised to find that
Concerning Lynels:
It reminds me of the Bayonetta games, or for that matter Ghirahim in SS: the encounters are there to teach you the game, forcing skills you could get away with not knowing anywhere else, and if you don't learn the systems you die. (And for my part, since I have been avoiding the main objectives ever since leaving the Plateau apart from unlocking access to towns,
)
This is also the first time I've felt that a Zelda game had a properly balanced rupee economy (for my skill level, anyway), especially once you get into the late stages of exploring the world. I have to budget for arrows (which I never bought from a vendor in previous Zelda games); I have to be selective about which armour sets to focus on. One thing I've always prized about the Zelda and Metroid games is that the progression is objective-based, not grind-based, and while BotW
I like it thus far; if this is your personal late-game objective it strikes a decent equilibrium of being just far enough out of reach to require meaningful effort or decision-making, but just out close enough within reach not to be mind-numbingly redundant, at least to the point I've gotten. And the rewards are fun to play with once you get them.
I'm now up to 94 shrines and 153 Koroks (roughly a third of those Koroks in the past two nights, found in the course of sweeping the map for a tiny handful of shrines), and it definitely feels as though I am finally reaching the saturation point where I might want to think about looking at the main quest.
In the meantime, however, I've been busying myself with combat: killed my first Guardian on Friday night and took down my first Lynel about an hour later. For the Lynels, the key was really just to get to the point of surviving long enough to learn their pattern, and since then I've been farming them for materials quite consistently, putting them towards
upgrading my full Barbarian set
It's been an invigorating experience to pick difficult fights, as it's broken me through the progression glut of filling my inventory with high-end weapons I don't want to waste on basic enemies: now I'm expending them, looting some more, then expending those as well on the next kill. A late-game sense of difficulty balance and progression (mostly in the form of
collecting and upgrading the armour sets
the damage numbers get even higher than the Royal or Guardian++ tiers, which were my plateau for a lengthy stretch of the game; I didn't think there was anywhere to go after those armaments, the elemental greatswords, or the second-tier magic rodsall of which I began collecting fairly early. For the longest time I played to preserve those weapons on the assumption I wouldn't see any better ones.
Concerning Lynels:
Considering that they only have one or two set patterns, with minor variation depending on what melee weapon type they're holding and whether they are using shock arrows or bomb arrows, their placement on the map goes a long way towards showing off just how different a fight can be with the terrain and weather you are given: you have to tackle each one a little differently given the environment, and engaging with the game's mechanics isn't an optional luxury the way it is with simpler enemies like the Hinox. I thought I had an absolutely solid approachdon some upgraded resistance armour, pop an elixir for an offensive or defensive buff, ride the updrafts from the flame attack and shoot them in the face in mid-aironly to find that for the white Lynel in the northwestern snowfields, the first one I encountered early in the game, this doesn't work. For that location, I need to make sure my cold resistance is covered (which takes up armour or elixir slots I would have liked to put to other purposes) and there also aren't any updrafts to speak of, which meant I had to master the alternatives: dodge/counter the melee attacks on the ground, or stun it out of its TP Beast Ganon charge with a regular-arrow headshot (a risky move I only recommend if you think you can survive the charge).
It reminds me of the Bayonetta games, or for that matter Ghirahim in SS: the encounters are there to teach you the game, forcing skills you could get away with not knowing anywhere else, and if you don't learn the systems you die. (And for my part, since I have been avoiding the main objectives ever since leaving the Plateau apart from unlocking access to towns,
I never encountered the tutorials for systems like aerial archery or the flurry rush until I was dozens of hours into the game. I still only have the vaguest idea of when it's better to use a shield parry than a dodge.
This is also the first time I've felt that a Zelda game had a properly balanced rupee economy (for my skill level, anyway), especially once you get into the late stages of exploring the world. I have to budget for arrows (which I never bought from a vendor in previous Zelda games); I have to be selective about which armour sets to focus on. One thing I've always prized about the Zelda and Metroid games is that the progression is objective-based, not grind-based, and while BotW
continues the trend from SS of using grindable enemy drops (or other minor items out in the world) to fuel its upgrade system, it's still objective-driven in pushing you to pick specific fights out in the worldno Barbarian upgrades until you knock out a few Lynels, for one. For the most part you get precisely what you need, not less and not much more, to get your pieces to 3 stars over the natural course of playing. 4 stars probably starts to be one hell of a grind, but I wouldn't know that yet as I haven't found my fourth Great Fairy.
Yeah totally agree. He's entitled to it but just gonna unfollow him on all his things.
victreeb3l
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I dont think so. It sounds original, unless I'm missing something.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XrvZrBCR6-A
Riposte
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Wow, I need confirmation on this lol.
RichiRamjag
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Oh man. It's so freaking great. Loved reading everyone's experiences in that other thread on it. Most of us did different things.
Of course, but probably best to not make a big deal out of it. He obviously enjoys the negative attention as it give him something to laugh about with his fans. It's ultimately his opinion, so it's whatever.
victreeb3l
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WHAAAAAT
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Deleted member 30609
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Yeah, I checked there for this exact reason and got the same monologue. Hmm.
And your life will be better off without his negativity. Nobody wants to listen to babies throw tantrums. Well at least I don't.
He only finished the game yesterday.
You're doing the opposite of respecting his opinion.
2Smashed4U
Banned
I've heard it quite a bit actually
victreeb3l
Member
Yup he does. Just saw it on YT: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NjyWMGEQnrw
This makes me so happy. OoT is the king of incredible jingles.
I swear if theres Song of Storms somewhere in BoTW....I would die
Or maybe he just liked Horizon more? But no, that's crazy talk right? Not unexpected to see these kinds of posts in here but a bit disappointing nonetheless.
I'd recommend: "The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild |OT2| 97 is better than nothing"
https://www.vg247.com/2016/06/21/ke...-no-9s-launch-version-is-better-than-nothing/ ^^
Except in Jim Sterling's case and even for some reviewers, C tier, also known as average, is a 5/10. Because that makes sense, the middle of 0 to 10 is average. It's just a score at the end of the day, and a 7/10 is a good score.
Also, the way people have been acting in his comment section in his review reminds me of the 8.8 review debacle for Twilight Princess.
Confused Cheeseburger
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Jim really wanna be that guy that gave botw a 7.
Lord Ghirahim
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Was the review thread locked or something?
YuriLowell
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Whenever I knock over a Moblin with a 2 handed weapon, my game could freeze for 0.5 to 1 second.
It's much worse on Fire/Snow mountains. I don't always get freezes outside of those places, but it's getting even worse there. My game froze for almost 2 seconds on Hebra. Thought it was gonna crash.
Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild |OT2| A 60 and a 70 and it still only dropped by 1 point
But Phantom Pain was still a Kojima game.
He gave triforce heroes an 8, I doubt he had this much problem with BotW if 79 other reviewers didn't, and most of them were done before the embargo.
EDIT: Please don't change the title, it still a OoT homage
it's the best thing i've done in gaf
Maybe hughesta just thinks that his opinion is absurd? Why can Jim have an opinion but not hughesta?
Hahahaha wut...
It says "Good" right below the 7/10 score. That's the scale he is using.
http://www.thejimquisition.com/review-score-guide/
That's what he himself lists in his score guide as someone posted before.
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