Colin Moriarty is leaving Kinda Funny Games.

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Thewonandonly said:
Damn I'm fucking heart broken and have sheded a few tears today over this. These two guys have literally been with me ever since I was 12 and have helped me through hard times for 8 years of my life. They have been a big influence for my gaming career and my life as a matter a fact. They have in a way made me who I am today, a gamer.

Yet I come in this thread expect to share hard times with fellow kinda funny and beyond fans and yet I'm scared to. This thread is full of so much hate that it's unbelievable. People are comparing Colin to a nazi and calling him a cunt. I feel like if I talk about how Colin is my favorite person in game media I will get hate or hell mabey even get banned because I support a "nazi".

I want to create a thread about the good times we have with grolin, but it will get flooded with people that hate him. Why can't we seperate a entertainer with his political views. Why do I have to feel like a shitty person because I seperate my entertainers from there real world views. Kinda funny wants to premote love and sharing the love between people and I think GAF needs to start doing that. My parents voted for trump, do I agree fuck no, does that mean I should hate them. Hell no but most of GAF would love me to and I see them calling my parents peices of shit or scum of the earth, because they voted for a cheeto. This place has became nasty after the election, but can we please just all love each other no matter who we support. We are all humans that love games let's talk about games.

Colin I will miss you :)
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It is hard for people to separate entertainment and politics when an entertainer is president and taking away their rights, endangering lives and promoting the type of racist and sexist comments that people are complaining about.

You can ignore the link if it doesn't impact you but I feel it is wrong of you to call upon others to do the same.
 
Dangansona said:
So far this video is pretty sad to watch. Especially when Colin shows up :/

But for real if you watch the video it really seems like he left (perhaps partially due to a growing political divide between the other guys) and was not in any way fired or asked to leave. And hell, it's not like we didn't have the feeling that his heart wasn't in it for a long time now.
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Wait until Nick gets choked up.
 
Dangansona said:
So far this video is pretty sad to watch. Especially when Colin shows up :/

But for real if you watch the video it really seems like he left (perhaps partially due to a growing political divide between the other guys) and was not in any way fired or asked to leave. And hell, it's not like we didn't have the feeling that his heart wasn't in it for a long time now.
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There are a couple of lighter moments in that video that you'll get to eventually. It's bittersweet.
 
Tagg9 said:
Your way is right and the other person is "objectively" wrong (either morally or socially). This isn't a good way to encourage discourse, nor is it healthy to be closed-minded to all other viewpoints.
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Right to have an unpopular opinion but they also have the right to be questioned on it.

Colin had a problem with being questioned on it and rather than trying to settle it down he sought to amp it up and fall on his sword.

His choice, not those everyone who simply disagrees with him. Obviously there are people on extremes who can't handle even a discussion and at every interaction Colin has chosen to be one of them.
 
Bolivar687 said:
You still haven't demonstrated why he's a bad person. All you've done is talk down to your fellow board members and derail a thread with negativity and superficial arguments.

Where are the mods?
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I mean you are free to respond to some of the posts that have answered your questions like this one

Lime said:
By itself, maybe, but reading it in the context of his attitude towards minority issues, feminism, and so on should be more than sufficient indication of how much he really cares about rights of oppressed groups. Even when called out on it, for how his show is only with white dudes, he buckles down and reproduces the same diet racism and all-encompassing whiteness while spouting diet racist shit on his show. And that's not introducing the concept of class into the mix of how important poor people are in his view.

Also you cannot separate economic policies from race. Enforcing libertarian policies in a white supremacist country like the US basically is a racist position (ie a condonment of the current power hierarchy of whites dominating material, institutional, legislative, and cultural wealth in the US)
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or you can continue to be willfully obtuse. Whatever blows your hair back.
 
Trojita said:
Better than living in a country where someone can be forcefully silenced by the government for their political beliefs.
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LOL...one can only look at himself into the mirror.

Didnt Colin just got silence by his political believes and viewpoint as of the topic of this thread?

Not by the govt of course but by the 'self-appointed' people.

It's like the pot calling the kettle black.
 
Thewonandonly said:
Fair enough and I respect your opinion. I don't follow much of his politics and don't listen to the game over Greggy show. I just listen to games cast and ps I love you. I appreciate that you are taking to me with respect tho and not just calling me out. Thank you :)
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People prioritize things differently. To some people, it's about more than just video games. That's not to say Colin has to be as passionate about those issues as anybody else, but a decent human would at least display a little empathy. When people express concern over a racist, fascist being elected president, his first reaction on twitter was to call it "hyperbole" and essentially tell people to get the fuck over it. When people too issue with his stupid joke last week (which was made, again, at the expense of an issue people feel strongly about, even if he doesn't), his very first reaction was to call them "humorless sacks of shit". Are those the personality traits of a good person? Empathy costs you nothing. Are those the traits of someone who genuinely wants everyone to just get along and love one another? He's not the guy you think he is, even if you like the way he talks about videogames.
 
miller.skippins said:
LOL...one can only look at himself into the mirror.

Didnt Colin just got silence by his political believes and viewpoint as of the topic of this thread?

Not by the govt of course but by the 'self-appointed' people.

It's like the pot calling the kettle black.
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You think they are equivalent.

Cute.
 
Ponn said:
Honest question, did you ask your parents to just love each other and all people? Did you ask them to not vote for a platform running on dicking over people, hurting millions and taking away civil rights, separating families and discriminating against multiple minority groups? Why do these pleas of "can't we just all get along??" always come from the groups with the privilege who vote to dick over and oppress people telling the oppressed to just take it and shut up? Where are these people on /thedonald or the daily stormer shouting this "can't we all get along" stuff? Doesn't it make more logical sense to start with the people ACTUALLY trying to oppress, harm and take away rights from other groups or is that crazy talk?
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See this is what I'm taking about your attacking my parents. I have talked to them about it and I have long stopped because it gets no where. I have changed their views on black lives matter and have got them to understand what struggle it is. Sure they voted for trump but that was because they really really hated Clinton. Now my step dad has regretted voting for him after all the stuff that's happened while my mom is still blind. Does that mean I should talk to them or should I hate them?
 
miller.skippins said:
LOL...one can only look at himself into the mirror.

Didnt Colin just got silence by his political believes and viewpoint as of the topic of this thread?

Not by the govt of course but by the 'self-appointed' people.

It's like the pot calling the kettle black.
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Who is silencing him? He made the decision to pursue something else.

Are you purposefully being obtuse right now?

Oh how I wish I could educate you but you must be willing and open to learn.
 
DontBeThatGuy said:
That's certainly nothing to be proud of.
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Trojita said:
I've never seen anyone using it that wasn't a douchebag. The use of that flag always seems to come with a warped sense of reality.
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K. Cool. Being a libertarian is a valid view though, people need to stop equating politics with being good or bad.

As a liberal who has shat on Colin's politics a lot, good and bad people come in all poltical stripes.
 
Thewonandonly said:
I want to create a thread about the good times we have with grolin, but it will get flooded with people that hate him.
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Just remember that he would despise you for needing and wanting a safe space in which to discuss your feelings. This is one of the reasons a lot of us aren't broken up about it.
 
sdornan said:
That is an insane view. How the hell does does he expect the government to function without taxes?
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I feel like this thread got a bit too much of this going on. If this goes into character assassination rather than the event (as this threads seems to be most about), lets at least try to have an discussion on the actual man.

He never has been against all taxes. He is against income tax and I remember discussion of him wanting VAT to replace it. I personally think most of his economic stuff is just out whack.
Some posts trying to align him with Gamergate feel insane. The guy was always vocally against it on his podcasts if you were listening. One needs to remember how gg actually started before it quickly morphed into the mutated swamp monster and understand the strong opposition from the gaming media right from the start. He has been advocating more diverse cast in games since his IGN days and when I was still watching Kinda Funny, as long as that didn't change in the past years?

Colin to me has always been quite divisive and the increased discussion on politics (especially as I'm not from North America) stopped me watching kinda funny after a year. Just wish people would not paint this as white and black as I see here. The world isn't Trump/Hitler - SJW and nothing between.
 
You know, due to recent events, I actually have put some thought into the idea of separating an entertainer's politics from their work. Short answer: you can't. Long answer: it depends.

For people like, say, Marty O'Donnell, it is possible for me to separate his politics from his work. Under normal circumstances, his work takes form as a contribution to a larger whole, in which his individual voice and personality get mixed in with something of so many diverse backgrounds and skill sets that, while I strongly disagree with his politics, I can appreciate what he does without those thoughts rising to the surface.

However, people like Colin and Jon don't have a greater work to hide behind. Their personalities are their work. When your source of income is little more than a presentation of opinions, there's no real divide between how you feel about games and how you feel about people. Your product is not a wordless work of art. It is you, literally. The divide doesn't exist, and as a result, no tolerance can be built.
 
Dangansona said:
So far this video is pretty sad to watch. Especially when Colin shows up :/

But for real if you watch the video it really seems like he left (perhaps partially due to a growing political divide between the other guys) and was not in any way fired or asked to leave. And hell, it's not like we didn't have the feeling that his heart wasn't in it for a long time now.
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I don't get where the narrative he was forced out is coming from. I don't get that vibe at all.

I think Colin just wants go full in on politics and knows Kinda Funny isn't the platform for that.
 
GrizzNKev said:
However, people like Colin and Jon don't have a greater work to hide behind. Their personalities are their work. When your source of income is little more than a presentation of opinions, there's no real divide between how you feel about games and how you feel about people. Your product is not a wordless work of art. It is you, literally. The divide doesn't exist, and as a result, no tolerance can be built.
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Pretty much.
 
Obliterator said:
I don't get where the narrative he was forced out is coming from. I don't get that vibe at all.

I think Colin just wants go full in on politics and knows Kinda Funny isn't the platform for that.
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I'm with you there I really think Colin wants to get out of gaming and go into politics. I wish him the best of luck but probley won't follow him because I'm not a political person.
 
Ponn said:
I mean you are free to respond to some of the posts that have answered your questions like this one



or you can continue to be willfully obtuse. Whatever blows your hair back.
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But nothing in the posts you quoted actually provided a single sentence or action as evidence to back up their argument. You all keep saying what a racist and misogynist person he has without providing any unequivocal proof, all the while belittling your fellow members.

It's almost like you guys don't have any credible problem with him at all, you're just looking for reasons to treat other people like crap.
 
Damn I didn't expect that.

Well I hope whatever he does next works out for him I guess.

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Wow this thread really turned into a shitstorm huh.
 
I unsubbed from Kinda Funny a long time ago.

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Now that Colin is gone... I'll sub again.


Add me to the Jared Petty camp, would love to see him with the team. Genuinely love the chemistry between Tim and Greg, more so than Colin -- I just love positive vibes, I suppose that's why I love the Easy Allies guys' so much.
 
Ninja Scooter said:
blahatthat
Banned
(Today, 06:25 PM)
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So many games to play.



Bolivar687 said:
But nothing in the posts you quoted actually provided a single sentence or action as evidence to back up their argument. You all keep saying what a racist and misogynist person he has without providing any unequivocal proof, all the while belittling your fellow members.

It's almost like you guys don't have any credible problem with him at all, you're just looking for reasons to treat other people like crap.
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You can check his twitter
 
Titanoboa said:
Oh no! lol


The timing mostly, although I guess once the deal was done he didn't need to hold back at all even if the announcement wasn't made yet.


We can't quote his entire twitter feed, dude.

Either that or we're just telling dad jokes snowflake etc etc, take your pick.
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Ya I see it as Colin had this planned for a little while that's why he had seemed so uninterested about games. Then you see him on political radio stations. Think that this just blew up so much he raised his hands and said "fuck it".
 
meanspartan said:
K. Cool. Being a libertarian is a valid view though, people need to stop equating politics with being good or bad.

As a liberal who has shat on Colin's politics a lot, good and bad people come in all poltical stripes.
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Politics affect a person's determinism, well being, and quality of life. Of course we are going to analyze political beliefs and categorize them as good or bad.
 
GrizzNKev said:
You know, due to recent events, I actually have put some thought into the idea of separating an entertainer's politics from their work. Short answer: you can't. Long answer: it depends.

For people like, say, Marty O'Donnell, it is possible for me to separate his politics from his work. Under normal circumstances, his work takes form as a contribution to a larger whole, in which his individual voice and personality get mixed in with something of so many diverse backgrounds and skill sets that, while I strongly disagree with his politics, I can appreciate what he does without those thoughts rising to the surface.

However, people like Colin and Jon don't have a greater work to hide behind. Their personalities are their work. When your source of income is little more than a presentation of opinions, there's no real divide between how you feel about games and how you feel about people. Your product is not a wordless work of art. It is you, literally. The divide doesn't exist, and as a result, no tolerance can be built.
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For me I think JonTron is a moron. I don't agree with the views he expresses on Twitter. That said I haven't unsubscribed from his YouTube channel. I can't say I'm having any difficulty disconnecting and enjoying his content. One part of him is the batshit stuff he talks about on twitter (stopped following him on there long ago) and the other side is comedy videos. Unless he starts preaching about his views in video game or movie review I don't see myself unsubscribing.

If this isn't what you meant with your post I apologize~
 
Titanoboa said:
The timing mostly, although I guess once the deal was done he didn't need to hold back at all even if the announcement wasn't made yet.
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Oh I'm not ignoring the timing. I'm sure Greg and everyone got into it behind the scenes.

I just think its something he has clearly been mulling over and the events of the past few weeks were the final push he needed. Given his new contacts in the political game I just fully think that's where he's headed
 
Titanoboa said:
It's the just the most embarrassing thing with troubling connotations on top of it.
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Nah. It's not just a libertarian thing. It is also popular with servicemen who may or may not be libertarians.

It's far from the most embarrassing thing.

You're a really snarky, hateful person.
 
Titanoboa said:
Oh no! lol


The timing mostly, although I guess once the deal was done he didn't need to hold back at all even if the announcement wasn't made yet.


We can't quote his entire twitter feed, dude.

Either that or we're just telling dad jokes snowflake etc etc, take your pick.
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If you truly cannot produce a single piece of unequivocal evidence to support your ideas, then maybe you should stop posting them.

Darryl M R said:
So many games to play.





You can check his twitter
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why did you delete your post?
 
It's become pretty evident that people like listening to others who can articulate and communicate well. However, just because someone articulates well, doesn't mean that everything they're articulating is golden. As you go through life, you'll learn to pick up on the substance/meat of the matter rather than the person doing the articulating. It is not wise to idolize people. It is wise to pay attention to their actions.
 
Icolin said:
Rewatching this video after today's news was the wrong choice. This hurts.
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It was emotional at the time, but since then Colin has continued to reveal himself to just be a hate filled right wing wacko..it takes the emotion out of that now. It is really disappointing Colin decided to cement his legacy by going all out anti-women right wing but waht can you do?

Colin falling to that awful anti-sjw hate camp hurts far more than JonTron or PewDiePie, I assumed he was better...oh well.
 
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