Topher
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What if I take that same device and hook it up to my monitor and primarily use keyboard and mouse?
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[MLiD] Why XBOX Helix is Still (Kinda) a Console
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What if I take that same device and hook it up to my monitor and primarily use keyboard and mouse?
DeepEnigma
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Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Topher
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Then it's a console with benefits.
Liking "hybrid" more and more.
Fess
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Yeah it's converted from SEK. I'm not sure how to compare prices tbh, 25% taxes are included here, but no tax in US? In the end, how much are you in reality paying for a $1200 device?
Either way, Copilot says that a $1200 Xbox would cost 14000SEK in Sweden. That's roughly 2500SEK more than I paid for PS5 Pro with disc drive. It's a lot, at least for a console, but you would probably pay 25000SEK for a decent gaming PC so it depends how powerful it is as a PC.
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Fess
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That's the easiest definition. It's more than just a PC. And it's more than just a console.
Jesb
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So why not just come out and say it that all your pc games will run on this.
Sorcerer
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Jeff Gertsman was suggesting that Microsoft may sabotage themselves by requiring a paid account to access the online Xbox part of the console.
Not charge you to access the PC side (Steam, Epic, and such) but also saying fuck you if want any support on that side of the console. Clearly hands off and try using it at your own risk.
My thought not his:
Maybe to try to convince you the Xbox paid part is the way to go? Controlled console gaming is the best bet after all?
Not charge you to access the PC side (Steam, Epic, and such) but also saying fuck you if want any support on that side of the console. Clearly hands off and try using it at your own risk.
My thought not his:
Maybe to try to convince you the Xbox paid part is the way to go? Controlled console gaming is the best bet after all?
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GoldenEye98
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To me it's still slightly more console than pure off the shelf PC. Like the hardware approach here is no different than the approach that they would have done anyway for a "true" console. It's custom hardware with gaming in mind.
Software approach will be different but I don't think this is gonna boot straight into raw Windows 11 or whatever.
So it will still have enough of a custom design that it's not just a PC.
Software approach will be different but I don't think this is gonna boot straight into raw Windows 11 or whatever.
So it will still have enough of a custom design that it's not just a PC.
MisterXDTV
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Custom hardware my ass
It's a AMD PC APU off the shelves
The only thing "custom" is for playing old Xbox games
Bojji
Gold Member
There is barely anything custom about PS4 and PS5 APUs, yet - they are considered proper consoles.
Having "off the shelves" stuff doesn't change anything when it comes to console/pc differentiation (PS3 had 7800 GTX with 1/2 memory bus and rops).
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cafecat
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funny fact: PlayStation and Nintendo has more console market share than Xbox in China, that's why some developers here with high performance demand title if they want develop a console version, the 1st option is PlayStation 5. PlayStation is involved in Chinese game industry way better than Xbox and Nintendo, so we see some single player games and gahca games from China prefer to sign exclusive deal with Sony. Maybe he just don't kown the xbox situation in China, most people just consider more PC game pass or buy XGPU home share to try these XGP day one games, this is one of the reason part of chinese gamers don't buy games on Xbox (App).
One thing good of Xbox is that its XGP help some indie studios in China get fund for their game.
One thing good of Xbox is that its XGP help some indie studios in China get fund for their game.
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IntentionalPun
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I think MS may end up fairly successfully consol-zing GDK games on Helix, and maybe even will extend that to regular Windows.
The question really is will they be successful in getting publishers to actually care about the GDK when there won't be any Xbox devices that can't just play games from other stores.
Still not entirely sure WTF they are doing though so seems premature but I've changed my stance from thinking "it's just a PC" to thinking they may actually do something more interesting than just gaslighting marketing.
The question really is will they be successful in getting publishers to actually care about the GDK when there won't be any Xbox devices that can't just play games from other stores.
Still not entirely sure WTF they are doing though so seems premature but I've changed my stance from thinking "it's just a PC" to thinking they may actually do something more interesting than just gaslighting marketing.