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[theangrypirate]

He's gained over 7k followers in just the past few days. That number is very likely to have a significant jump after Rogan as well.

Yeah, Rogan is huge. You could tell, from listening to PSILY that he was done with it for a while. The last few weeks he kept telling everyone he couldn't talk about what he was doing but we would know soon. Seems like he's been planning this all along. The exposure he has gotten over this is probably bigger than even he expected.

 

[Audioboxer]

25 mins into Rubin video, Colin's being his arrogant self, but some good points have been made. Not surprised people are messaging him privately (from the industry). If a journalist or known gaming site somehow backed him they'd be nuked by association.

Although they did pimp Kotaku/Jason for reporting it - http://kotaku.com/kinda-funny-co-founder-colin-moriarty-leaves-youtube-gr-1793226101 (some of the only names mentioned. Polygon/IBTimes were called out for misreporting.) He mentioned "message boards" but no specifics. As for who he was talking about abandoning earlier, the video seems to answer that. Not the KF crew, but people he says he helped get into the industry/get jobs and would still say nice things to his face but were apparently have tweets amongst themselves about him. Probably IGN staff or ex-IGN staff.

Moving onto KF stuff now.

edit: Colin was quite reasonable on KF split. Did state it was him. Basically sounds like he didn't want KF from now on to constantly be about this situation and people (fans constantly asking) wanting apologies. Wished the guys all the best and the KF fans. Confirmed he didn't get fired AND the guys didn't ask him to leave. Also confirmed games "aren't his biggest interest", so yeah, expect something political I guess.

 

[Gator86]

Let's see how far he goes the more he distances himself from his captive video gamer audience where the bar for political/social discourse is incredibly low and starts to take his flimsy positions elsewhere where they can be more easily picked apart and exposed for the shallow nonsense that they are. My guess is that this will cause him to retreat further and further into an (wait for it) echo chamber where he can shield himself from criticism, while also sinking further and further out of relevance. To a lot of that audience he'll just be a "video game guy".

I think there's definitely room for a younger dude like him, especially with a gaming and media background, to carve out a solid niche here. It's not like he's competing with Rhodes Scholars or something. I think he'll have to depend a lot on his "libertarian" identity to present the same warmed-over sexism and such in a more novel way and stay relevant in that market.

 

[ChanMan]

Damn this thread is still going...

 

[Jonboy]

He was called a racist for previous statements and supporting a bigot like Jeff Sessions. Someone actually too racist in 1980s to be a judge, by his own party.

No...there was an IB Times article and the headline was literally "Kinda Funny's Colin Moriarty Resigns After Targeting Women in Racist Tweet; Insists It's His Personal Decision." They issued a correction a day later.

Surely we can all at least agree the tweet wasn't racist?

 

[Olly88]

Ah right on. That's good to hear. I'm sure he'll still tweet thoughts on stuff too.

Unless he's sort of giving up gaming as a hobby too, but I doubt that.

Nah, he said on there as well that he's looking forward to getting gaming back as just a hobby and playing them.

 

[Fisty]

Just because he supports Jeff sessions doesn't make him a racist.

Literally 0 evidence of this yet they have branded him as one just to get their shit website hits. Even though he did previous work on black oppression in America

You sure about that? Saying an open and evidenced racist is the best choice for one of the nation's highest office isn't racist? Nah I guess you're right, he's only supporting racist agendas, he's not an actual racist

 

[Goose_Se7en]

It certainly isn't. It also isn't always the second someone does something wrong they're out the door, friendship over and fuck them. Unless it's incredibly serious, possibly direct harm or something so unforgivable.

Have you ever causally read an advice thread on GAF about family/friends or work colleagues that might have made a mistake or possibly have an iffy political or social stance? Nuance is lost on some people. It's straight to dial nuclear the second someone has a bit of a social disagreement.

I honestly don't know how anyone could be friends with some posters on here. You'd literally need to be a clone. 100% the same. Life is full of social landmines and friends and family erupting in disagreements. You tend to take the overall package of a person into consideration before catapulting them into the sun never to speak to them again and hold a hater boner till the day you're dead.

Greg called Colin out, Colin might disagree, but that doesn't mean Greg hates Colin now, Colin hates Greg and everyone hates everyone. Greg's lived with Colin, he'll know what he's like. It was most likely a combo of yes, calling him out, but also trying to calm down some of the flames of the internet losing its collective mind. As I framed it earlier this has erupted/spilled over into the internet culture war more than anything. Projection galore, people hating other people and taking opportunities to air their own personal grievances off the back of Colin and take pot shots at others who don't agree with them. I seriously doubt anyone really gives a shit this much about Colin. Half the people involved probably don't watch KF or even care about it.

I've been reading this thread since it first began and have posted very little because 1. I support Colin 100% fully and 2. I may not be able to articulate my points as succinct as folks like you Audioboxer.

Since the start you have been very thoughtful, analytical and have truly tried to engage with some of the "crazy and take no prisoners" types who continue to slander Colin (libel since they're posting as opposed to speaking) and not to be a brown​ nose but I wanna give kudos to you. We need more folks like you on GAF who are willing to have an actual conversation and not spout the doo doo butter that soooo many have been spouting on here. It's like some have asses for mouths.

You have called it right down the middle from the beginning, careful not to take sides and state what you believe and why and opine, respectfully, thoughtfully and you have been dismissive of no one at all. You are a benefit to the forum. Kudos to you.

 

[Ninja Scooter]

I think there's definitely room for a younger dude like him, especially with a gaming and media background, to carve out a solid niche here. It's not like he's competing with Rhodes Scholars or something. I think he'll have to depend a lot on his "libertarian" identity to present the same warmed-over sexism and such in a more novel way and stay relevant in that market.

I mean, when the standard is Tomi Lahren, sure, there's plenty of room for someone who can spout off dumb shit that appeals to an echo chamber of radicals, but it's not exactly something I'd personally aspire to.

 

[theangrypirate]

Let's see how far he goes the more he distances himself from his captive video gamer audience where the bar for political/social discourse is incredibly low and starts to take his flimsy positions elsewhere where they can be more easily picked apart and exposed for the shallow nonsense that they are. My guess is that this will cause him to retreat further and further into an (wait for it) echo chamber where he can shield himself from criticism, while also sinking further and further out of relevance. To a lot of that audience he'll just be a "video game guy".

I don't understand this position. He has never tried to avoid criticism and in fact he seems to be doing the opposite. He is putting himself out here specifically to be criticized so that he can refute the critics.

 

[Darryl M R]

Just because he supports Jeff sessions doesn't make him a racist.

Literally 0 evidence of this yet they have branded him as one just to get their shit website hits. Even though he did previous work on black oppression in America

At the end of the day there is not much of a line between being a racist and being someone that supports a well known racist that pushes racist agendas.

I don't understand this position. He has never tried to avoid criticism and in fact he seems to be doing the opposite. He is putting himself out here specifically to be criticized so that he can refute the critics.

Isn't he only appearing on shows and talks that lean right? Where is the opposition?

 

[ScientificPizza]

For someone in "the middle" he seems to only be able to get himself booked on right leaning shows

 

[……forgetit]

Just because he supports Jeff sessions doesn't make him a racist.

Literally 0 evidence of this yet they have branded him as one just to get their shit website hits. Even though he did previous work on black oppression in America

Not racist, but A-OK with racists is just as bad in my opinion.

And Jeff Sessions is a racist. No way around it.

 

[Fisty]

I don't understand this position. He has never tried to avoid criticism and in fact he seems to be doing the opposite. He is putting himself out here specifically to be criticized so that he can refute the critics.

He puts himself out there because he's interested in hearing his own opinions, no one elses

 

[theangrypirate]

At the end of the day there is not much of a line between being a racist and being someone that supports a well known racist that pushes racist agendas.

Who are you referring to?

 

[Anton Sugar]

I don't understand this position. He has never tried to avoid criticism and in fact he seems to be doing the opposite. He is putting himself out here specifically to be criticized so that he can refute the critics.

 

[Nanashrew]

Jeff Sessions was called out by Martin Luther King Jr.'s wife.

Jeff Sessions is a major racist.

 

[Darryl M R]

Who are you referring to?

thekiddfran with my first comment.

And you in my second. Do you care to reply to my comment addressed to you? The point has been echoed by others.

 

[Dude Abides]

No...there was an IB Times article and the headline was literally "Kinda Funny's Colin Moriarty Resigns After Targeting Women in Racist Tweet; Insists It's His Personal Decision." They issued a correction a day later.

Surely we can all at least agree the tweet wasn't racist?

This is a standard technique for right-wing outrage peddlers. One publication makes a mistake and suddenly it's "the media" and "the SJWs" who are attacking you and trying to ruin your life and get you fired just for stating your jokey opinion that bitches should be seen not heard.

Then you go on a show with a dope like Dave Rubin who you know will smile and nod and agree with you for as long as you want to talk.

Next stop, Milotown. Since the "but mah free speech" snowflakes have now tossed Milo overboard over his speech, I wouldn't be surprised to see Moriarty try to slide into that niche.

 

[Marquis]

I don't understand this position. He has never tried to avoid criticism and in fact he seems to be doing the opposite. He is putting himself out here specifically to be criticized so that he can refute the critics.

He just ran away from his company once he stirred shit up. He is completely avoiding criticism ! That's exactly why he hasn't spoken to his former audience (KF Best Friends) at all.

 

[Ninja Scooter]

You sure about that? Saying an open and evidenced racist is the best choice for one of the nation's highest office isn't racist? Nah I guess you're right, he's only supporting racist agendas, he's not an actual racist

I don't think it neccesarily makes him a racist. I don't think Colin is a racist. But I think it shows that he is sorely lacking in basic empathy, which, when we are talking about the nomination of someone as toxic and vile as Jeff Sessions to the position of Attorney General, allowing your lack of empathy to minimize or dismiss his racism when discussing his qualifications, is basically just as dangerous.

 

[ScientificPizza]

He got called a racist for a sexist tweet.

Now forever he will be on the internet known as a racist.

That is character assassination for no other reason than a dying website to get hits

He got called a racist for a sexist tweet by one outlet and everyone, including people in this thread criticising Colin, called the article out as being stupid

You have one piece of evidence of character assassination and it's one that was immediately dismissed by #bothsides

 

[theangrypirate]

He puts himself out there because he's interested in hearing his own opinions, no one elses

I think he's much more open minded than you think.

 

[Spiral Insanity]

For someone in "the middle" he seems to only be able to get himself booked on right leaning shows

You can't be in the middle and align yourself with Trump's policies and even 'some' of Milo Yiannopoulos' statements.

 

[Ninja Scooter]

I don't understand this position. He has never tried to avoid criticism and in fact he seems to be doing the opposite. He is putting himself out here specifically to be criticized so that he can refute the critics.

Has he been back to that GAF thread where he put his foot in his mouth by claiming he does more to help the disenfranchised than the Pro bono lawyer who works for the Innocence Project? Did he refute that criticism?

 

[aGuyInaBearSuit]

He's gained over 7k followers in just the past few days. That number is very likely to have a significant jump after Rogan as well.

It really saddens me to see how profitable it is to act like an asshole.

 

[Jonboy]

I take issue with this because Im sure from my post history you would think Im defending him. But I couldnt give a shit about Colin Moriarty, I enjoyed his shows and more often that not MASSIVELY disagreed with what he was saying. But there is a lot of malice and vitriol in here that has nothing to do with what he said. He has said some stupid shit and if you want to express that go ahead. I just want to people to be better about this.

Its just there is no end goal here. Colin isnt some threat to us we need to take down. People posted a lot 'but we are just discussing', a lot of what is going on is no where near discussion.

Spot on.

I've been reading this thread since it first began and have posted very little because 1. I support Colin 100% fully and 2. I may not be able to articulate my points as succinct as folks like you Audioboxer.

Since the start you have been very thoughtful, analytical and have truly tried to engage with some of the "crazy and take no prisoners" types who continue to slander Colin (libel since they're posting as opposed to speaking) and not be a brown​ nose but I wanna give kudos to you. We need more folks like you on GAF who are willing to have an actual conversation and not spout the doo doo butter that soooo many have been spouting on here. It's like some have asses for mouths.

You have called it right down the middle from the beginning, careful not to take sides and state what you believe and why and opine, respectfully, thoughtfully and you have been dismissive of no one at all. You are a benefit to the forum. Kudos to you.

Definitely. I appreciate Audioboxer's posts in this thread. I've tried to check-in every now and then, but don't always have time to post. Even I'm shocked it has blown up like this, tbh.

 

[Nanashrew]

Colin name searched and preemptively blocked me over a light criticism about him.

I never @'ed him, I didn't even know his Twitter name, we didn't follow each other or even know each other.

The guy cannot take any criticism.

 

[theangrypirate]

Isn't he only appearing on shows and talks that lean right? Where is the opposition?

I'm not sure anyone from the opposition has approached him to have a dialogue. All I've seen from the opposition are people calling him a racist, sexist, privileged, bigot. Most of these people seem to unfamiliar with anything other than his day without a woman tweet.

 

[Vinc]

I agree with Colin that he should be given a chance to defend himself against accusations he's facing. And I think he did a great job defending himself against accusations that he's a complete sexist / racist / whatever else.

My issue is that I didn't see that many examples of that, and I do disagree with these people in the first place. I just don't get what his response is to people like Greg who think his tweet was tasteless but not somehow proof that he's the worst sexist who ever lived.

 

[jon_dojah]

Just watched all of Colin's latest content past few days and very anxious to see the Rogan sit-down. Rogan has been on a tear the past few weeks/months also getting himself the fastest, highest viewed podcast record on his channel just recently so this can only be good for Colin. Everything seems to be falling in place for him and I'm sure he's grateful for the timing.

 

[Obliterator]

I don't think it neccesarily makes him a racist. I don't think Colin is a racist. But I think it shows that he is sorely lacking in basic empathy

I think this something very important many on the left are mistaking. A lot of people thinking / voting right wing aren't straight up racist. They are putting themselves first and not using a ton of empathy but that isn't the same thing as racism. That word is being thrown around so regularly now it's beginning to lose its meaning.

That isn't to say there isn't some real legit racists on the right. There is.

 

[Gator86]

"As a white dude, my ability to say regressive stuff, without any consequences whatsoever, is far more important than the impact of that type of speech on groups that already have to work harder and overcome more obstacles than myself. I lack empathy and have no ability to critically examine social and institutional structures in the context of their historical background."

 

[theangrypirate]

Has he been back to that GAF thread where he put his foot in his mouth by claiming he does more to help the disenfranchised than the Pro bono lawyer who works for the Innocence Project? Did he refute that criticism?

I don't know.

 

[Armaros]

Colin name searched and preemptively blocked me over a light criticism about him.

I never @'ed him, I didn't even know his Twitter name, we didn't follow each other or even know each other.

The guy cannot take any criticism.

No, you see, he is receptive to criticism, that's why he called his critics humor-less sacks of shit over his Women's day tweet.

 

[Fisty]

I think he's much more open minded than you think.

I'll have to disagree, since he tends to say what he thinks and then stick his fingers in his ears and cry victim immediately after

 

[skynidas]

Colin name searched and preemptively blocked me over a light criticism about him.

I never @'ed him, I didn't even know his Twitter name, we didn't follow each other or even know each other.

The guy cannot take any criticism.

you already said this yesterday

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=232165765&postcount=4841

 

[meanspartan]

Listening to the interview now. While so far a lot of it is bullshit "I'm such a victim stuff", he is on point here:

https://youtu.be/DxAPUCRQtt4?t=18m31s

Basically, what I had argued about earlier on this thread. He has said plenty of laudable things as well, but those are ignored because he isn't toeing the line all the time.

 

[Ninja Scooter]

No, you see, he is receptive to criticism, that's why he called his critics humor-less sacks of shit over his Women's day tweet.

But he's totes more open minded than you think he is.

 

[10k]

Definitely. New Yorkers are loyal as fuck.

Not loyal to their companies apparently.

 

[kevin1025]

1) let me guess yoy were offended ,id stay away from twitter if I were you

2)1 tweet and a mess is created do you not see the overreaction here

3)here comes the grammar police lol

4)look were all different colins opinionated get over it what would you have a world with uniform conformity god forgive the man for having a bit of personality

You said this before I replied to you:

I dont care if your black hispanic woman gay bisexual transgender or straight up caucasian,everybody needs and deserves the piss to be taken out of them sometimes,we live in a culture now where everyone is offended now and I just see that piolce force circling on mass when a silly tweet is posted

What kind of mindset is that? Why do people deserve it? That's my whole point about Colin. Why do people deserve to be picked at by him? It wasn't one tweet. It was a series of tweets that had become more frequent in the past couple of months. He wanted to outrage someone, anyone just to prove a point, and that point is that people apparently have emotions and how dare they!

If you feel that Colin is totally in the right with his belligerence and narrow-mindedness, I wish you all the luck in the world. But the guy can't take any heat of his own when he slings his shit.

 

[Darryl M R]

I'm not sure anyone from the opposition has approached him to have a dialogue. All I've seen from the opposition are people calling him a racist, sexist, privileged, bigot. Most of these people seem to unfamiliar with anything other than his day without a woman tweet.

So you're earlier statement

I don't understand this position. He has never tried to avoid criticism and in fact he seems to be doing the opposite. He is putting himself out here specifically to be criticized so that he can refute the critics.

is false since he is not putting himself out there. He is going to like minded places and talking. He's not debating with any opposing views.

 

[Fisty]

Colin name searched and preemptively blocked me over a light criticism about him.

I never @'ed him, I didn't even know his Twitter name, we didn't follow each other or even know each other.

The guy cannot take any criticism.

Creating his own little echo chamber on Twitter, what a fucking hypocrite

 

[Darryl M R]

you already said this yesterday

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=232165765&postcount=4841

And he mentioned it again because the discussion is about how Colin handles criticism by blocking people that disagree with him.

 

[Nanashrew]

you already said this yesterday

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=232165765&postcount=4841

I did!

I felt it needed repeating of my experience and how some are saying he can take criticism.

Colin makes liberal use of the block button. A friend of mine attempted to have a debate with him recently and they also got blocked.

 

[Jonboy]

This is a standard technique for right-wing outrage peddlers. One publication makes a mistake and suddenly it's "the media" and "the SJWs" who are attacking you and trying to ruin your life and get you fired just for stating your jokey opinion that bitches should be seen not heard.

Then you go on a show with a dope like Dave Rubin who you know will smile and nod and agree with you for as long as you want to talk.

Next stop, Milotown. Since the "but mah free speech" snowflakes have now tossed Milo overboard over his speech, I wouldn't be surprised to see Moriarty try to slide into that niche.

Actually no. It's me responding to a post that said Colin was called racist for his support of Sessions. That may be true, but he was also called racist explicitly for the tweet by a "reputable" publication. Lol at calling it a "mistake."

Serious question...do you know anything about Dave Rubin at all? Or are you making the same mistake Polygon did about him? He's a married gay man who identifies as a "classical liberal."

 

[Ninja Scooter]

you already said this yesterday

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=232165765&postcount=4841

Cool.

 

[theangrypirate]

"As a white dude, my ability to say regressive stuff, without any consequences whatsoever, is far more important than the impact of that type of speech on groups that already have to work harder and overcome more obstacles than myself. I lack empathy and have no ability to critically examine social and institutional structures in the context of their historical background."

I think he's referring to being able to criticize and question ideology without it quickly devolving into outrage. Like what you say in your first 4 words, "as a white dude". Immediately you are dismissing his entire point because he is white. Context is important, but it seems like lots of his criticism is due to his whiteness.

 

[SamNW]

"Supporting Jeff Sessions doesn't make you a racist."

Yeah, okay. Sure. You're not a racist. You're just in favor of empowering a man who:

-Fights against reforming a criminal justice system that disproportionately punishes racial minorities
-Supports voter suppression laws that target racial minorities
-Publicly expresses concerns about the Latinization of the United States

The list goes on. Consequences have actions. Political positions have tangible ends. Who you support says a great deal about you.

 

[theangrypirate]

I'll have to disagree, since he tends to say what he thinks and then stick his fingers in his ears and cry victim immediately after

he does?