Colin Moriarty is leaving Kinda Funny Games.

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Shit, Elizabeth Warren was literally silenced by her male (Republican) peers on the floor when she quoted Coretta Scott King's letter, warning the government of Jeff Sessions.
 
And one year after this quote, thanks to MLK's persistence, moderate white Americans passed the Civil Rights Act. Whether you like it or not, you live in a democracy, and to get a law passed or change made you still need to convince large swaths of moderate white Americans to find an agreeable middle ground.



The later isn't brought up as a free-speech issue, it's brought as an argumentative fallacy (ad hominem). Especially when the words Nazi and fascist are being consistently used in extremely weak circumstances.

Ummm, how gracious of moderate whites to grant black Americans some rights white americans have had for hundreds of years? I guess it's good to remind black people that white people are the gatekeepers to their rights. This post is... pretty grim all around.
 
But don't forget he's a moderate!

I don't think he's ever claimed to be a moderate. If anything he's claimed to be conservative, and the only reason he left to be libertarian was Trump's horrible character, not his policies.

Ummm, how gracious of moderate whites to grant black Americans some rights white americans have had for hundreds of years? I guess it's good to remind black people that white people are the gatekeepers to their rights. This post is... pretty grim all around.

It's not a matter of graciousness, it's a matter of MLK persisting in pursuing allies to get a bill through congress, allies that he knew he needed to get stuff done. The left seems to think it can run a Democracy all on it's own terms, white moderates be damned, and that's just not how it works. See: Michigan, Wisconsin, PA.
 
Shit, Elizabeth Warren was literally silenced by her male (Republican) peers on the floor when she quoted Coretta Scott King's letter, warning the government of Jeff Sessions.
which itself was a document of black civil rights discourse. Apparently in order to defend Collin we have to now go over the basic inequalities of marginalized group in this country in order to establish a baseline for assessing his comments.
 
One of his multiple tweets belittling Kapernick's protesting for BLM

"Colin Kaepernick woke up, blasted Rage Against the Machine, put on his Che shirt, and yelled "shut up mom!" when called down for breakfast."
https://twitter.com/notaxation/status/769961118693556224
So you're telling me that someone who supports Jeff Sessions is openly and needlessly mocking someone publically fighting for marginalised and oppressed people throughout the country?

Hmmmmmmmm
 
Thanks, finally an actual response that says something. I agree with some of your points. I'm not sure I agree with the bolded, especially with respect to women. What types of things can a woman not say that a man is allowed? How about race?

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This is why taking his comments in isolation is so absurd.

Is supporting Jeff Sessions itself enough to damn him as a racist? Maybe not. Supporting Trump policies? Saying he doesn't like diversity for diversities sake? Mocking Black Lives Matter Protests?

Independently you can try to spin each of them, as people have done.


But add them all together? It paints one hell of a ugly picture.
 
I don't think he's ever claimed to be a moderate. If anything he's claimed to be conservative, and the only reason he left to be libertarian was Trump's horrible character, not his policies.



It's not a matter of graciousness, it's a matter of MLK persisting in pursuing allies to get a bill through congress, allies that he knew he needed to get stuff done. The left seems to think it can run a Democracy all on it's own terms, and that's just not how it works.

Yes finding allies that get things done.

Not 'allies' that pretend we all need to step back and see if both sides have a point in the pursuit of 'golden middle'

As if there was a both sides argument to Civil Rights. That is what MLK was lambasting.
 
So you're telling me that someone who supports Jeff Sessions is openly and needlessly mocking someone publically fighting for marginalised and oppressed people throughout the country?

Hmmmmmmmm

If only there was a word to describe a white dude who mocks black people who fight for civil rights while supporting politicians and policies that privilege white folks at the expense of minorities
 
Women: http://time.com/money/4450406/men-interrupt-talk-more/
People identifying as black: https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.theatlantic.com/amp/article/409990/
Black and a woman: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22457894

Just an infinitely small sample of the articles and studies about it. Colin, a white man, decrying a lack of freedom to express himself is somewhat suspect already. Colin, a white man, decrying his lack of freedom to express himself in the form of a sexist joke, one that marginalizes women who already have less speech, is fucking rich.

That times article really doesn't point out things women can or cant say. It also isn't very convincing. It seems like the article is suggesting women talk less because they perceive themselves and other women as bitchy that do speak out a lot or demand a lot. It doesn't say that men are making them feel that.

Thanks for the info though, i gotta bail on this thread, back to work...


quoting twitter idiots prove nothing.
 
Yes finding allies that get things done.

Not 'allies' that pretend we all need to step back and see if both sides have a point in the pursuit of 'golden middle'

As if there was a both sides argument to Civil Rights. That is what MLK was lambasting.

If you read up on the Civil Rights Act you'll see that yes, there was compromise to get it passed, a middle found.

On June 19, the substitute (compromise) bill passed the Senate by a vote of 73–27, and quickly passed through the House-Senate conference committee, which adopted the Senate version of the bill. The conference bill was passed by both houses of Congress, and was signed into law by President Johnson on July 2, 1964

Edit: Sorry for double post, meant to combine.
 
That times article really doesn't point out things women can or cant say. It also isn't very convincing. It seems like the article is suggesting women talk less because they perceive themselves and other women as bitchy that do speak out a lot or demand a lot. It doesn't say that men are making them feel that.

Thanks for the info though, i gotta bail on this thread, back to work...

Yeah, I was pulling them super quickly so they might not be the absolute peak. I can post literally dozens if people actually want to read up on this type of stuff. Other people have thrown out great examples too. These are pervasive, frequent issues for marginalized groups.
 
That times article really doesn't point out things women can or cant say. It also isn't very convincing. It seems like the article is suggesting women talk less because they perceive themselves and other women as bitchy that do speak out a lot or demand a lot. It doesn't say that men are making them feel that.

Thanks for the info though, i gotta bail on this thread, back to work...



quoting twitter idiots prove nothing.

In the same situation, except I'm leaving work, so I can't find sources/good articles, but I am genuinely surprised you're not familiar with the (sexist) phenomenon of women being silenced more often than their male peers, particularly in the workplace. It's a fairly well-known example of modern sexism.
 
That times article really doesn't point out things women can or cant say. It also isn't very convincing. It seems like the article is suggesting women talk less because they perceive themselves and other women as bitchy that do speak out a lot or demand a lot. It doesn't say that men are making them feel that.

Thanks for the info though, i gotta bail on this thread, back to work...



quoting twitter idiots prove nothing.

I'm just going to assume that your inability to educate yourself about the very topic this thread is addressing, that you also haven't done so with regards to the bodies of literature addressing racial/gender inequalities as well. Further, like in your posts, I will wonder why you choose to engage in argument if youre operating under an uninformed position.
 
Holy fucking shit. His fanbase is peak alt-right.

That's one of the biggest issues. He kept screaming at people for being "outraged", but he didn't call out his fanbase, even when they were harassing his "friends" and his liberal followers, not once did he tell them to calm down or act like adults.

And it wasn't just his fanbase, his girlfriend joined them as well.
 
I've mentioned this before, but IBTimes isn't a news publication so much as a glorified content farm. To somehow impute a motive of the media-at-large from them not caring about accuracy and just shitting out an article in five minutes just makes you look like someone who doesn't care about accuracy and is just shitting out a post in less than five minutes.

It kills me whenever someone does this with anyone in the media. Or liberals. Or any group that we can just generalize.
 
That times article really doesn't point out things women can or cant say. It also isn't very convincing. It seems like the article is suggesting women talk less because they perceive themselves and other women as bitchy that do speak out a lot or demand a lot. It doesn't say that men are making them feel that.

Thanks for the info though, i gotta bail on this thread, back to work...



quoting twitter idiots prove nothing.

oh, okay. well that's convenient.

i guess this thread isn't based on a tweet using an age old sexist joke about women talking too much and being annoying when they do to make a shitty joke on International Women's Day. clearly that joke popped up out of nowhere and if those sentiments ever existed they certainly don't today.
 
Some major parallels with the Milo situation and this. There was a specific moment and movement to "shut someone down", and it only completely backfired and launched them up in the public conciseness. (Not a parallel in politics between Milo and Colin, just in the public situation)

Now obviously Milo defended pedophilia and imploded, but say he didn't, he would have a best selling book and would have stayed in that public limelight.

Dude what? Nothing happened, he made a sexist joke (among a lot of other things), people criticized him (as is what happens when you make it a very public one) and he acted like a child.... luckily he works in two industries where acting like a child gets you a lot of fans.

Stop blaming folks who are critical of people, dangerous ones in Milo's case, instead of the toxic fan base and media personalities that support and endorse these people.

Like there wasn't even ANTIFA induced violence in this case (which is the only reason Milo got that extra push before his career tanked)
 
oh, okay. well that's convenient.

i guess this thread isn't based on a tweet using an age old sexist joke about women talking too much and being annoying when they do to make a shitty joke on International Women's Day. clearly that joke popped up out of nowhere and if those sentiments ever existed they certainly don't today.

"no no, let me just keep attacking these positions with an incomplete understanding of events that have happened and then argue that we must first prove the baseline of racial and gender inequality before we critique the statements in question"

-theangrypirate
 
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She still called Colin a friend after all that happened.

Now who's outraged? Lucy or Colin's fanbase?
Well from her very first tweet she was saying "this is not you"
I'm assumimg she knows him better than any of us. She probably knows him as a kind guy, people can make their own decisions if they want to remain friends with him or not. All I know is dude is about to pivot and try to do his own thing outside of games probably and he will probably be successful doing so. As Tim said on the morning show "you can go full Colin now"
 
Well from her very first tweet she was saying "this is not you"
I'm assumimg she knows him better than any of us. She probably knows him as a kind guy, people can make their own decisions if they want to remain friends with him or not. All I know is dude is about to pivot and try to do his own thing outside of games probably and he will probably be successful doing so. As Tim said on the morning show "you can go full Colin now"

You completely missed the point of my post.
 
listened to the live show, initially Colin referred to the KF just as partners, not once describing them as friends. Only in the end did he say they were friends, but it's just odd and I wonder what the dynamic/relationship has been for the past year.

Would love to hear them talk about what happened, as Colin seemed open to doing in a group setting.
 
Wow, so you are automatically outraged if you offer a critique. Lucy seems the most relaxed in this exchanged.

As I mentioned before, outrage isn't a thing the way it's normally used online. It just means "disagreeing with me or a thing I like." If you can portray people disagreeing with you as hysterical lunatics, it makes you seem all the more reasonable and sensible. It's never been anything more than a cynical ploy. Outrage culture primarily exists in the mind of people trying to throw out regressive stuff.
 
He seems like the kind of person who makes inflammatory FB posts and then gets pissed off whenever someone challenges/critiques him. "Excuse me, this is MY wall, I can post whatever I want, I don't have to put up with this" BS.

Funny you should say that:

In that very public twitter thread where he challenged Mackey to a "put up 2000$ and debate me", which started because Mackey said he wished Colin wasn't relevant in the industry and ended with Colin telling Mackey to grow some balls when Mackey never responded, this sub conversation happened:

 
It really saddens me to see how profitable it is to act like an asshole.

Welcome to the future of "journalism" where it pays to be a troll. I think the Kind Of Funny is going to lose a lot of patrons. Just looking at how many dislikes these guys are getting is insane. It's sad that you can't have a show on Youtube that spreads a positive message. It's got to be based on outrage culture and trolling. Does everyone have to be angry all the time and yell at each other?

It's fine not to like something or even express how you feel but don't try to project your baseless opinions on others as facts. It's going to cause outrage. Colin has a superiority complex where he believes that he is always right and if anyone disagrees with him they are shitheads. Every time someone criticizes him, he can't man up and acts like a victim.

Colin should continue his series "Colin is Right" but turn it into a show about his politics. As long as Colin continues to use " fake" outrage as a business strategy, I'm sure there will be plenty of followers that will pay his bills for him and a couple million on top of that. Sure, the more extreme you are, the more haters your will have. At the same time your "army" of followers will lick and wipe your a-- every time.
 
As I mentioned before, outrage isn't a thing the way it's normally used online. It just means "disagreeing with me or a thing I like." If you can portray people disagreeing with you as hysterical lunatics, it makes you seem all the more reasonable and sensible. It's never been anything more than a cynical ploy. Outrage culture primarily exists in the mind of people trying to throw out regressive stuff.

I do find it so odd, they look like the 'hysterical' ones, because they immediately try to escalate the situation. The best way to deal with people like that is to remain calm and let them work themselves up.
 
Kinda Funny's videos are still getting downvoted and the comment sections are a cesspit.

If he's sincere in wanting them to do well, he should tell his trolls to back off.


"You treated me like you were my oldest friend when people out there I have known forever just abandoned me" *colin cries*

He just threw those kids under the bus, no way the Trolls are backing off.
 
Please, Colin, leave and take your cabal of regressive fuckwits with you.

It is really troubling to see so many in the community easily shepherded by these cults of personalities in the industry.
 
Kinda Funny's videos are still getting downvoted and the comment sections are a cesspit.

If he's sincere in wanting them to do well, he should tell his trolls to back off.

The type of people Colin has collected over the years just a bunch of shitstains, those were never fans of Kinda Funny but Colin, doubt the dislikes will stop people like that have a endless hunger for that kind of behavior.
 
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