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[Chris_Rivera]

It's been proven scientifically that the class scale in terms of best class goes something like:

Hunter >>>>>>>> Titan >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Warlock

It's a fact.

Hmmm, never seen a Titan solo a raid.
J/k

 

[Trace]

Hmmm, never seen a Titan solo a raid.
J/k

 

[DOWN]

It's not like the game is coming out tomorrow, we already got a date for the gameplay reveal, it's definitely going to be at E3 and gamescom. Unless you pre-ordered digitally you can cancel anytime, I don't see the problem here, Activision/Bungie aren't the first to reveal a game using a cgi trailer...

In this day and age, CGI is losing popularity over an actual in engine trailer with real game models or even gameplay. CGI can be a supplement later, but it's lame as fuck as a sole reveal and so uninteresting since all the great looking games these days have shown how much more dazzling it is to capture in engine. I don't care what your CGI outsource budget got you. I wanted to see what your actual models and worlds are gonna be like. Sorry but EA and Sony are much cooler for using their own engines to make their reveals. That is what shows that a gorgeous, well imagined game visual experience will be in the product. CGI said near nothing about what's actual going in the product and that's so tired in 2017.

 

[Tovarisc]

In this day and age, CGI is losing popularity over an actual in engine trailer with real game models or even gameplay. CGI can be a supplement later, but it's lame as fuck as a sole reveal and so uninteresting since all the great looking games these days have shown how much more dazzling it is to capture in engine. I don't care what your CGI outsource budget got you. I wanted to see what your actual models and worlds are gonna be like. Sorry but EA and Sony are much cooler for using their own engines to make their reveals. That is what shows that a gorgeous, well imagined game visual experience will be in the product. CGI said near nothing about what's actual going in the product and that's so tired in 2017.

Is in-engine trailer that much better than CGI? You are still getting presentation that doesn't reflect end products real time graphics and animations.

 

[Drewboy64]

Attempted to do a re-edit with Zavala only that had cleaned up video and audio transitions
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hsZz9pOSFts

I love Cayde's personality, but it is really epic to just see the Zavala speech on its own

 

[Crimson_Gold]

Attempted to do a re-edit with Zavala only that had cleaned up video and audio transitions
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hsZz9pOSFts

I love Cayde's personality, but it is really epic to just see the Zavala speech on its own

I think his speech should help ease some people. I hope Ikora gets more shine as well

 

[Drewboy64]

I think his speech should help ease some people. I hope Ikora gets more shine as well

Yeah Ikora definitely needs some screentime. A Shaxx speech would be awesome as well

 

[into.it.over.it]

It's been proven scientifically that the class scale in terms of best class goes something like:

Hunter >>>>>>>> Titan >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Warlock

It's a fact.

I've been trying to keep up with the nonsense in this thread and this is the only post that makes sense to me

 

[Kaimu]

In this day and age, CGI is losing popularity over an actual in engine trailer with real game models or even gameplay. CGI can be a supplement later, but it's lame as fuck as a sole reveal and so uninteresting since all the great looking games these days have shown how much more dazzling it is to capture in engine. I don't care what your CGI outsource budget got you. I wanted to see what your actual models and worlds are gonna be like. Sorry but EA and Sony are much cooler for using their own engines to make their reveals. That is what shows that a gorgeous, well imagined game visual experience will be in the product. CGI said near nothing about what's actual going in the product and that's so tired in 2017.

I agree with this, CGI reveal trailers don't excite me at all.

 

[ZeoVGM]

No going to orbit after each activity, minimal loading screens. Come on Bungie! I want all of Destiny 2 to be as seamless as possible. Pre-release marketing for Destiny 1 made that promise and the final game really failed to deliver.

From what is rumored, they do in fact seem to want to get rid of that, which would be really interesting. I'm just going off the system we know now. Things could be so different in D2 that what I said wouldn't even work.

 

[wesleyshark]

Yeah Ikora definitely needs some screentime. A Shaxx speech would be awesome as well

I CAN'T BELIEVE WHAT I'M SEEING

Shaxx would be hype as fuck.

 

[psynergylover]

In this day and age, CGI is losing popularity over an actual in engine trailer with real game models or even gameplay. CGI can be a supplement later, but it's lame as fuck as a sole reveal and so uninteresting since all the great looking games these days have shown how much more dazzling it is to capture in engine. I don't care what your CGI outsource budget got you. I wanted to see what your actual models and worlds are gonna be like. Sorry but EA and Sony are much cooler for using their own engines to make their reveals. That is what shows that a gorgeous, well imagined game visual experience will be in the product. CGI said near nothing about what's actual going in the product and that's so tired in 2017.

This trailer was just used to show the premise of what Destiny 2 was going to be about...who are we to say how a company can reveal a game, a roughly ~2 min trailer doesn't show us the graphic makeup of this game; and to be fair destiny wasn't know for it graphical capabilities. People who sunk hours into Destiny know what to expect therefore we're already sold upon the trailer, and if somehow if it's not what we expected we can cancel our pre-orders.

Whether it's an in game trailer or not, it doesn't show us any gameplay or what we can expect. True a trailer using the games engine will at least give us a taste of the expected graphical performance but I'm pretty sure we can all say graphics aren't what make a game(can certainly help) as you can see with the popularity of Destiny.

 

[Kyoufu]

In this day and age, CGI is losing popularity over an actual in engine trailer with real game models or even gameplay. CGI can be a supplement later, but it's lame as fuck as a sole reveal and so uninteresting since all the great looking games these days have shown how much more dazzling it is to capture in engine. I don't care what your CGI outsource budget got you. I wanted to see what your actual models and worlds are gonna be like. Sorry but EA and Sony are much cooler for using their own engines to make their reveals. That is what shows that a gorgeous, well imagined game visual experience will be in the product. CGI said near nothing about what's actual going in the product and that's so tired in 2017.

But... this CGI trailer actually tells us quite a bit about the product.

- Guardians have lost their Light and their Ghosts, which could mean permadeath for characters
- The Tower is destroyed and the vaults along with it, meaning your gear won't carry over
- The Red Guard of Cabal are the main threat, Ghaul being their leader.
- There's a new Cabal enemy, the first animal-like enemy design ever in the game
- Hunters, Warlocks and Titans return
- Shaxx, Xur, Ikora, Zavala and Cayde-6 return
- No sign of the Speaker, Cryptarch, Amanda Holliday and the faction leaders
- Suros and Omolon weapon manufacturers return along with some armor from the first game
- The Cabal have varying size shields and weapons, making them much more interesting and menacing than in Destiny 1
- A player ship is attacking what appears to be a Cabal Red Guard ship which could hint at Halo Reach style ship battles
- There will be loot. Lots of it

 

[Samurai G0SU]

so we going to uranus now?

 

[Okami Haundo]

- A player ship is attacking what appears to be a Cabal Red Guard ship which could hint at Halo Reach style ship battles

When Destiny was first revealed, I was hoping for Halo Reach-style ship battles! Instead we got ships that serve as loading screens...

 

[HiredN00bs]

Again 2 "expansions" taken out from the game for limited edition and the main game is being cut into pieces with limited content

It's hard to do it again when they didn't even do it the first time. But as far as nonsense conspiracies go, at least you're not a 9/11 truther. You're not, right?

When Destiny was first revealed, I was hoping for Halo Reach-style ship battles! Instead we got ships that serve as loading screens...

Yeah, I really wanted that, too. But they barely got out what they did with the delay and rewrite. Another way of looking at it is that we got 3D ships and skyboxes added to our lobby, loading, and matchmaking screens.

 

[wesleyshark]

But... this CGI trailer actually tells us quite a bit about the product.

- Guardians have lost their Light and their Ghosts, which could mean permadeath for characters
- The Tower is destroyed and the vaults along with it, meaning your gear won't carry over
- The Red Guard of Cabal are the main threat, Ghaul being their leader.
- There's a new Cabal enemy, the first animal-like enemy design ever in the game
- Hunters, Warlocks and Titans return
- Shaxx, Xur, Ikora, Zavala and Cayde-6 return
- No sign of the Speaker, Cryptarch, Amanda Holliday and the faction leaders
- Suros and Omolon weapon manufacturers return along with some armor from the first game
- The Cabal have varying size shields and weapons, making them much more interesting and menacing than in Destiny 1
- A player ship is attacking what appears to be a Cabal Red Guard ship which could hint at Halo Reach style ship battles
- There will be loot. Lots of it

Gary*

 

[Double Donut]

- Shaxx, Xur, Ikora, Zavala and Cayde-6 return

Whoa, Xur's in the trailer? Time?

Also, I would not hold my breath for spaceship combat.

 

[Will the Thrill]

But... this CGI trailer actually tells us quite a bit about the product.

- Guardians have lost their Light and their Ghosts, which could mean permadeath for characters

Wait where was this confirmed? Or is just speculation? If they lost their light wouldn't that mean all abilities are technically gone as well.

 

[wesleyshark]

Whoa, Xur's in the trailer? Time?

Also, I would not hold my breath for spaceship combat.

He's not in the trailer, but it's a safe bet to assume he'll show up wherever the new social space ends up being.

 

[bigJP]

Wait where was this confirmed? Or is just speculation? If they lost their light wouldn't that mean all abilities are technically gone as well.

NVM

 

[wesleyshark]

Wait where was this confirmed? Or is just speculation? If they lost their light wouldn't that mean all abilities are technically gone as well.

Correct. We're stripped of our powers and have to seek out new ones. It's an in-universe explanation for starting off at Level 0, with crap gear and junk weapons.

 

[murdochmystery]

But... this CGI trailer actually tells us quite a bit about the product.

- The Cabal have varying size shields and weapons, making them much more interesting and menacing than in Destiny 1

I think that the orange energy shield we see the cabal wielding will be a replacement of the current big sheilds that many cabal enemies wield. In D1 those enemies often aren't fun to fight and I think Bungie's answer to this is creating an energy shield that can withstand a certain amount of shots before it is rendered useless.

This way it gives cabal a big shield but also gives players a more enjoyable time facing them.

Spoiler

All speculation but makes sense to me

 

[Tovarisc]

Wait where was this confirmed? Or is just speculation? If they lost their light wouldn't that mean all abilities are technically gone as well.

Vanguard leaders have lost their Ghosts in CGI. There is no single Ghost seen zipping around in CGI. Traveler is literally set on fire.

It's sensible conclusion that Guardian's will lose their connection to the Light, forcing them to leave Last City and go looking for new sources of power.

 

[franklyshankly]

Wait where was this confirmed? Or is just speculation? If they lost their light wouldn't that mean all abilities are technically gone as well.

They mentioned it in a press release or something but also here:

https://www.destinythegame.com/home

Humanity's last safe city has fallen to an overwhelming invasion force, led by Ghaul, the imposing commander of the brutal Red Legion. He has stripped the city's Guardians of their power, and forced the survivors to flee. You will venture to mysterious, unexplored worlds of our solar system to discover an arsenal of weapons and devastating new combat abilities. To defeat the Red Legion and confront Ghaul, you must reunite humanity's scattered heroes, stand together, and fight back to reclaim our home.

Sounds like we start without our abilities then learn new ones throughout the campaign.

 

[wesleyshark]

I think that the orange energy shield we see the cabal wielding will be a replacement of the current big sheilds that many cabal enemies wield. In D1 those enemies often aren't fun to fight and I think Bungie's answer to this is creating an energy shield that can withstand a certain amount of shots before it is rendered useless.

This way it gives cabal a big shield but also gives players a more enjoyable time facing them.

Spoiler

All speculation but makes sense to me

And also resistant to certain elements. I bet that shield in the trailer either resists/negates solar damage or is weaker against it.

 

[Tawpgun]

Wait where was this confirmed? Or is just speculation? If they lost their light wouldn't that mean all abilities are technically gone as well.

We don't know if our Ghosts are gone but I'd err on no since Nolan North is confirmed for the game I believe.

We do know from a description of the game from somewhere that the Cabal invasion has damaged the traveler and stripped the guardians of at least some of their powers.

It would make for a very convenient and believable set up for a progression through powers again. Including venturing out into the solar system to find other legendary guardians that have found ways to prosper without the traveler.

 

[into.it.over.it]

He's not in the trailer, but it's a safe bet to assume he'll show up wherever the new social space ends up being.

I can't find it now but i'm sure someone took a screenshot of the trailer and you can see xur and the crucible guy in the background of Zavala's speech

 

[everyday math]

I think that the orange energy shield we see the cabal wielding will be a replacement of the current big sheilds that many cabal enemies wield. In D1 those enemies often aren't fun to fight and I think Bungie's answer to this is creating an energy shield that can withstand a certain amount of shots before it is rendered useless.

This way it gives cabal a big shield but also gives players a more enjoyable time facing them.

Spoiler

All speculation but makes sense to me

There's also smaller shields for the Cabal now not just the energy shields.

 

[Will the Thrill]

Ah ok thanks for the replies guys!

It'll be interesting to see how powers are gained/set up in this game. Or if it'll just be "You found a new subclass, just level it up to use all of its abilities."

 

[Kyoufu]

its stupid speculation trying to justify a cgi trailer

Bungie's description of Destiny 2 states Guardians will have to travel across the Solar system in search of new abilities.

The trailer shows zero Ghosts. The Traveler is badly damaged. Cayde-6 talks about death quite a lot in the trailer.

Stupid speculation you say? It sets up the game's premise incredibly well for something just a minute or two long.

 

[wesleyshark]

Ah ok thanks for the replies guys!

It'll be interesting to see how powers are gained/set up in this game. Or if it'll just be "You found a new subclass, just level it up to use all of it's abilities."

Maybe they'll change it up and go with perk trees based on point allocation instead of progressive unlocks just from xp gain.

 

[Kyoufu]

I think that the orange energy shield we see the cabal wielding will be a replacement of the current big sheilds that many cabal enemies wield. In D1 those enemies often aren't fun to fight and I think Bungie's answer to this is creating an energy shield that can withstand a certain amount of shots before it is rendered useless.

This way it gives cabal a big shield but also gives players a more enjoyable time facing them.

Spoiler

All speculation but makes sense to me

I don't think so, because as you see, there's one enemy with a smaller shield and then there's the bigger orange shield.

tldr: lots of shields.

 

[E92 M3]

We start the game fully powered and then in standard turn of events, we lose everything and must become stronger and better.

 

[Nephtes]

Correct. We're stripped of our powers and have to seek out new ones. It's an in-universe explanation for starting off at Level 0, with crap gear and junk weapons.

Also the plot of the 1995 Power Rangers movie...
You lost your connection to Orbon... So you need to go train with the lady who didn't have time to explain why she didn't have enough time to explain to get new ninja powers... Or something...

 

[murdochmystery]

I don't think so, because as you see, there's one enemy with a smaller shield and then there's the bigger orange shield.

tldr: lots of shields.

Sorry, I think what I was trying to get across was there won't be only one size for Cabal, and the energy shields will have the downside of being breakable, whereas the smaller shields can act as they currently do in game.

In reality, I just hate fighting cabal and their big shields. Just feels un-fun to me in its current iteration.

 

[Dynomutt]

I love killing 10 Cabal elites on Mars!

 

[wesleyshark]

I can't find it now but i'm sure someone took a screenshot of the trailer and you can see xur and the crucible guy in the background of Zavala's speech

Ehhhh. Maybe this one?

 

[everyday math]

Sorry, I think what I was trying to get across was there won't be only one size for Cabal, and the energy shields will have the downside of being breakable, whereas the smaller shields can act as they currently do in game.

In reality, I just hate fighting cabal and their big shields. Just feels un-fun to me in its current iteration.

One of the Raid bosses will just be a giant shield

 

[Two Words]

I would guess that the remaining guardians turn to The Nine for assistance.

 

[MechDX]

One of the Raid bosses will just be a giant shield

Someone on the Destiny OT made a joke once about fighting a giant Shank.

Low and behold a year later we fought a giant Shank

 

[Tovarisc]

Ehhhh. Maybe this one?

White on chest and shoulders + not enough black tentacles in face area

Edit: When I was screencapping trailer I kept eye out for Xur. Didn't see anyone like him. This also means that Cabal won't attack on Friday through Sunday.

 

[wesleyshark]

White on chest and shoulders + not enough black tentacles in face area

Edit: When I was screencapping trailer I kept eye out for Xur. Didn't see anyone like him

Definitely Shaxx. But that's not Xur.

 

[everyday math]

Someone on the Destiny OT made a joke once about fighting a giant Shank.

Low and behold a year later we fought a giant Shank

🤐

 

[Kyoufu]

Cross Xur out, the point remains. There's a lot they crammed into that CGI trailer. I'm not a big fan of CGI trailers myself but I'm also not going to whine about it because that CGI trailer is not the only thing they're showing for the next 6 months.

 

[wesleyshark]

I would guess that the remaining guardians turn to The Nine for assistance.

And The Stranger

 

[Reptars Revenge]

And The Stranger

And Jesus.

 

[onemanasylum]

129.99 for the digital deluxe edition in Canada, damn games are too expensive here.

 

[Tovarisc]

And Jesus.

What Rahool has to do with this?

 

[dacalo]

Played the first one on PS4 but not sure whether to get this one on PC or PS4 Pro. I have a decent PC with a 1070 in it, but AHHHHHHH!

What say you? PC or PS4?