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[New002]

Man it's going to suck when they blame this on audiences not wanting to see female-led action movies.

That's what's gonna happen @_@

Personally, I just wasn't feeling the trailers They had one ahead of Your Name when I went to see that this past weekend. If word of mouth is positive I'll check it out.

 

[Liamario]

The good sign for female superheros anchoring films is Harley Quinn was basically the star of Suicide Squad. Some feminists complained she was too sexualized but bottom line is she's probably the most popular female superhero on the market right now...even amongst females.

She was awful though. She was the highlight in a very bad movie. Didn't find her character remotely interesting.

 

[broncobuster]

Not a chance in hell the budget is that low; isn't the "source" for that figure Jenkins saying something like "I'm the first woman to direct a hundred-million-dollar film?" It strikes me as pretty obvious that she was merely referring to the general nine-figure budgets of big franchise films and didn't mean it literally.

Jenkins never spoke about the budget. It was mentioned by another person in a conversation about women in the industry. Over $100mil being significant for a female-directed, female-led movie. I can say this, it'll be the least expensive DCEU movie (or Green Lantern).

She was awful though. She was the highlight in a very bad movie. Didn't find her character remotely interesting.

That's the nice thing about movies coming in all varieties. You don't have to be into it. I know I wasn't much into it. But Harley Quinn found and grew and audience from Suicide Squad.

 

[shandy706]

Both my daughters want to see it.

I'm going broke with these recent movies. Being a single dad with no purse to sneak food into a theater with is getting expensive.

Anyone have food sneaking suggestions? LOL

4 year old is too big for a baby bag. X-D

 

[perfectchaos007]

That's what's gonna happen @_@

Personally, I just wasn't feeling the trailers They had one ahead of Your Name when I went to see that this past weekend. If word of mouth is positive I'll check it out.

It has been 14 years since the Cat Woman flop. If Wonder Woman flops, prepare to wait for 14 more years (2031) for the next female superhero anchored film

Both my daughters want to see it.

I'm going broke with these recent movies. Being a single dad with no purse to sneak food into a theater with is getting expensive.

Anyone have food sneaking suggestions? LOL

4 year old is too big for a baby bag. X-D

Cargo shorts. I could easily fit a can of soda in each pocket, and the movie candy boxes are usually $1 at walmart. I can fit a couple of those in my pockets as well.

 

[DontBeThatGuy]

Hopefully it's not a boring sack of shit, and word of mouth can help pick up the slack, if needed.

 

[GuitarAtomik]

It has been 14 years since the Cat Woman flop. If Wonder Woman flops, prepare to wait for 14 more years (2031) for the next female superhero anchored film

Captain Marvel is set to come out next year. I don't think WW flopping would affect that Gotham Sirens movie DC has in the works either.

 

[Kusagari]

The numbers given in the OP are fine.

The other DCEU movies had Superman, Batman and Superman and Wonder Woman, and Joker/Harley Quinn + cameo from Batman.

Anyone with common sense should have expected WW to open the lowest.

 

[Litan]

Captain Marvel is set to come out next year. I don't think WW flopping would affect that Gotham Sirens movie DC has in the works either.

CapMarvel is 2019. Batgirl would probably come out the same year as well.

 

[Smokey_Run]

$83M opening weekend on a $100M (probably more like $120M) budget is now bad? The marketing push hasn't even started yet.

 

[GuitarAtomik]

CapMarvel is 2019. Batgirl would probably come out the same year as well.

Didn't realize it got pushed back again. Last I saw put it in November for next year.

 

[Litan]

Didn't realize it got pushed back again. Last I saw put it in November for next year.

Spider-man screwed over everyone.

 

[Knuckle Sandwich]

So an 83 million OW is bad for this?

I heard it has an ad budget of 2 billion.

 

[Meier]

If it's good, it'll do well in the long term. More and more, WOM is absolutely crucial to anything resembling legs since there is such a glut of these films and their time in the theaters is shrinking. If it does around Thor levels, I think that's very successful all things considered.

 

[DeathyBoy]

She was awful though. She was the highlight in a very bad movie. Didn't find her character remotely interesting.

Eh, say what you want about DC but Harley Quinn/Wonder Woman/Enchantress were all portrayed as the equals/superiors of the male characters. Refreshing change.

 

[Buckle]

Hoping this does well so we can finally get some more damn female superhero films. The genre is kind of a sausage fest right now.

If not WW, hopefully Captain Marvel can do it with Marvel's momentum.

 

[Triggerhappytel]

At least it'll be more than Green Lantern!

 

[Trago]

I really hope it's good at least.

 

[MHWilliams]

That's a very odd framing for an article.

It is the lowest, sure, but that's a respectable opening for Wonder Woman. Mendelson had a better point overall.

As far as what would constitute success, offhand I would be thrilled with an opening weekend close to the $85 million-$95 million range that we've seen from Logan, Doctor Strange, Guardians of the Galaxy, Captain America: The Winter Soldier or Thor: The Dark World.

But, without declaring a prediction or a bar for success, let's consider some scenarios. A $610 million worldwide gross makes it the biggest live-action movie ever helmed by a woman (Mamma Mia! made $609m in 2008). A $666m total puts it over Jennifer Yuh Nelson's Kung Fu Panda 2 as the biggest film ever singlehandedly directed by a woman (Frozen was directed by Jennifer Lee and Chris Buck).

A $695m gross puts it above The Hunger Games as the biggest non-sequel female-fronted action movie of our time.

 

[shandy706]

Cargo shorts. I could easily fit a can of soda in each pocket, and the movie candy boxes are usually $1 at walmart. I can fit a couple of those in my pockets as well.

Heck yeah!!!

I should have thought of that. I'll buy a pair this week...not even joking..LOL.

First 3 years of my (almost 5 now) youngest's life I carried a baby bag. Snacks/food/drinks under diapers and wipes.

 

[Ahasverus]

More like highest grossing opening for a female hero by far (and likely highest grossing female led/directed movie ever)

But that's not click baity enough.

 

[Servbot24]

Society is sexist and D.C. movies are terrible.

 

[Arttemis]

That's a very odd framing for an article.

It is the lowest, sure, but that's a respectable opening for Wonder Woman. Mendelson had a better point overall.

As far as what would constitute success, offhand I would be thrilled with an opening weekend close to the $85 million-$95 million range that we've seen from Logan, Doctor Strange, Guardians of the Galaxy, Captain America: The Winter Soldier or Thor: The Dark World.

"But, without declaring a prediction or a bar for success, let's consider some scenarios. A $610 million worldwide gross makes it the biggest live-action movie ever helmed by a woman (Mamma Mia! made $609m in 2008). A $666m total puts it over Jennifer Yuh Nelson's Kung Fu Panda 2 as the biggest film ever singlehandedly directed by a woman (Frozen was directed by Jennifer Lee and Chris Buck).

A $695m gross puts it above The Hunger Games as the biggest non-sequel female-fronted action movie of our time."

Here's to any of those scenarios happening! I still hope this beats Suicide Squad.

 

[Platy]

That's a very odd framing for an article.

It is the lowest, sure, but that's a respectable opening for Wonder Woman. Mendelson had a better point overall.

The problem is that Execs will blame this on women, not on the fact that it is the 4th movie in a cinematic universe that keeps getting worst.

Like you said, it sounds like praise, but "by a woman" makes it seem that women can't make equal men so they have to be keep by different standards

 

[Liamario]

Eh, say what you want about DC but Harley Quinn/Wonder Woman/Enchantress were all portrayed as the equals/superiors of the male characters. Refreshing change.

I'm specifically referring to Margot Robbie's portrayal in the awful suicide squad.

 

[The Strokes]

Can't say I'm surprised.

 

[cartographer]

Heck yeah!!!

I should have thought of that. I'll buy a pair this week...not even joking..LOL.

First 3 years of my (almost 5 now) youngest's life I carried a baby bag. Snacks/food/drinks under diapers and wipes.

Are you happy, DCEU? Now a poor man is being converted to cargo shorts. When is enough enough?

 

[DeathyBoy]

I'm specifically referring to Margot Robbie's portrayal in the awful suicide squad.

And I'm saying, quality aside, Harley Quinn wasn't treated as inferior to the male characters. Her and Katana were in the thick of the action, not going 'oh, we're not trained for this.'

Like I get Black Widow's arc blah blah blah, but when you have one major female character in a film and she's the only one verbalising that stuff, it's a little bit shit.

 

[Litan]

And I'm saying, quality aside, Harley Quinn wasn't treated as inferior to the male characters. Her and Katana were in the thick of the action, not going 'oh, we're not trained for this.'

Like I get Black Widow's arc blah blah blah, but when you have one major female character in a film and she's the only one verbalising that stuff, it's a little bit shit.

I think they call that good writing.

 

[Ashhong]

That's a very odd framing for an article.

It is the lowest, sure, but that's a respectable opening for Wonder Woman. Mendelson had a better point overall.

What can you expect from an article that spells "although" "Alth0ugh" in the first sentence.

Plus you have Slayven's title, which doesn't help.

 

[a916]

Man it's going to suck when they blame this on audiences not wanting to see female-led action movies.

This is WB/DC... I think that Batgirl Whedon thing is going to happen regardless and WB is definitely going to push Harley.

WW might take a back seat unfortunately if this thing falters... but it shouldn't barring something disastrous.

 

[Boke1879]

Society is sexist and D.C. movies are terrible.

Again. Tell me how an 83 million Opening weekend for this movie is bad?

 

[sixteen-bit]

pre-bomba?

 

[Sou Da]

Man it's going to suck when they blame this on audiences not wanting to see female-led action movies.

People would drink bleach at this point if it had Harley's face on it. It's a character perception issue, there will be more superhero flicks with leading ladies.

 

[Platy]

Again. Tell me how an 83 million Opening weekend for this movie is bad?

Because it is worst than the male lead male directed movies so people in suits will think the problem is being woman lead woman directed.

 

[DeathyBoy]

I think they call that good writing.

Black Widow tricking Loki is good writing. Black Widow outright telling everyone in the audience that it's stupid her and Hawkeye are in the film, but it's okay because they're acknowledging it...

 

[Boke1879]

Because it is worst than the male lead male directed movies so people in suits will think the problem is being woman lead woman directed.

I mean isn't this OW on par with Logan? So how can you honestly take that from these numbers?

 

[Ahasverus]

Because it is worst than the male lead male directed movies so people in suits will think the problem is being woman lead woman directed.

But it's better than most other movies?

 

[Boke1879]

But it's better than most other movies?

I legit think people are making the mistake of taking this article as gospel and using it to reinforce certain biases.

 

[Platy]

I mean isn't this OW on par with Logan? So how can you honestly take that from these numbers?

But it's better than most other movies?

But the other movies does not have our DC brand of awesomeness.

Movies like Logan have 18+ ratings, Dark World is so bad it is a meme and nobody knows who Doctor Strange is.

If Wonder Woman, a character who is on the mind of every girl, even used by those crazy feminists as a symbol, than how can she do worst than .... Suicide squad ?

OBVIOUSLY it is the cooties to blame

 

[Shaanyboi]

Black Widow tricking Loki is good writing. Black Widow outright telling everyone in the audience that it's stupid her and Hawkeye are in the film, but it's okay because they're acknowledging it...

Okay, so a male and female character are grossly underpowered on a team of gods. One of whom acknowledged it, and the other's constant smartness about it is probably one of his most defining characteristics. They're then joined by Scarlet Witch is who is inarguably one of the most powerful people to ever be on that team.

 

[MHWilliams]

The problem is that Execs will blame this on women, not on the fact that it is the 4th movie in a cinematic universe that keeps getting worst.

Like you said, it sounds like praise, but "by a woman" makes it seem that women can't make equal men so they have to be keep by different standards

I mean, I'll take all the accolades that come with the best to do something within a niche or area. Jordan Peele is eating up them firsts as a first-time black writer/director for Get Out. That occasionally some of those milestone have qualifications doesn't diminish them.

Hell, $669 million puts Wonder Woman above Man of Steel. I think at worse Wonder Woman is an average film that does around Ant-Man level, $450-500 million. At best, it's got strong legs, bringing to to around $650 million in my estimation, but hey... it could do better.

 

[Lights and Waves]

GAF: where unless a movie makes 1B WW, it's a flop.

 

[trikster40]

How are they tracking this when I can't even buy advance tickets yet? I want their magic 8-ball or whatever they're using.

I think this movie is gonna live or die by word of mouth. The DCEU has left such a bad taste in people's mouths that the first weekend won't be great. If the movie is good, it will grow some legs but if not, $225m seems like a stretch. I learned after suicide squad that when people say it's bad, it's bad.

 

[Ninja Scooter]

But the other movies does not have our DC brand of awesomeness.

Movies like Logan have 18+ ratings, Dark World is so bad it is a meme and nobody knows who Doctor Strange is.

If Wonder Woman, a character who is on the mind of every girl, even used by those crazy feminists as a symbol, than how can she do worst than .... Suicide squad ?

OBVIOUSLY it is the cooties to blame

You are overestimating the reach of Wonder Woman. Yes people know who she is. Yes people know the logo. But that doesn't automatically translate to interest.

 

[Maximo]

I don't know a single person out of my friends that wants to go see it even my big DC fanboy friend is not interested, some do want to see Justice League but no love for Wonder Women.

 

[karasu]

Hopefully Captain Marvel can break that barrier.

That shitty character?

 

[BobTheFork]

Confusing OP. $83 million OW would be a coup for this movie. Well in line with Marvel, of not better than a number their movies, and pretty optimistic considering the stink around this cinematic universe right now.

That would be lower than any other DCCU opening, nothing confusing about it.

 

[Ashhong]

But the other movies does not have our DC brand of awesomeness.

Movies like Logan have 18+ ratings, Dark World is so bad it is a meme and nobody knows who Doctor Strange is.

If Wonder Woman, a character who is on the mind of every girl, even used by those crazy feminists as a symbol, than how can she do worst than .... Suicide squad ?

OBVIOUSLY it is the cooties to blame

I can't tell if this is 100% sarcasm or not. Wasn't Thor coming off of Avengers and IM3 hype? It wasn't a meme at the time. If WW does better than that it should be considered a goddamn masterpiece. WW on the mind of every girl...lol

That would be lower than any other DCCU opening, nothing confusing about it.

But in what way is that a problem?

 

[Boke1879]

How are they tracking this when I can't even buy advance tickets yet? I want their magic 8-ball or whatever they're using.

I think this movie is gonna live or die by word of mouth. The DCEU has left such a bad taste in people's mouths that the first weekend won't be great. If the movie is good, it will grow some legs but if not, $225m seems like a stretch. I learned after suicide squad that when people say it's bad, it's bad.

Again this whole DCEU leaving a bad taste in people's mouths is way overstated imo.

Sure there are some people that won't watch this for the reason you described. BvS didn't deter people from SS, and SS won't deter people from WW.

Lets say this movie does do 83 million. It lives or dies by word of mouth. If THIS particular movie is good or bad. BvS won't have anything to do with it.


Also this is releasing in the Summer right? What else is coming out around this movie? Legit question.