Theresa May Statement: June 8th General Election requested

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I'll wait for the manifestos before making a proper judgement.

I'm not so sure on Corbyn but I think him being written off which is when he is most dangerous.
 
I'll wait for the manifestos before making a proper judgement.

I'm not so sure on Corbyn but I think him being written off which is when he is most dangerous.

The only thing Corbyn is dangerous against is murdering a cup of tea and a scone with jam. This is going to be a bloodbath for Labour. Even the Lib Dems are going to be stealing their voters.
 
A Tory friend of mine gave a reporter in Liverpool the fright of her life when she asked him what he thought of the snap election. He was probably the only Tory she spoke with all day.

Hope she flips to voting Lib Dem! Great folks in that local party and there is absolutely no way the Tories are going places in Liverpool. It's either Corbyn's Labour or the Lib Dems.

(I am going to be insufferable for the next few weeks. Sorry.)
 
I'll wait for the manifestos before making a proper judgement.

I'm not so sure on Corbyn but I think him being written off which is when he is most dangerous.


I wouldn't mind Corbyn leading the country (even though I'm drawing the line since he's probably leave), but I don't see any way he wins more seats this election, let alone the whole thing. Tories slander game is on point,if nothing else.
 
NPR had a reporter on this morning to explain whats happening to American audiences and he just casually shat all over Corbyn.

If no one likes this dude why don't guys send him adrift on an iceberg?
 
NPR had a reporter on this morning to explain whats happening to American audiences and he just casually shat all over Corbyn.

If no one likes this dude why don't guys send him adrift on an iceberg?

The Labour party's been hijacked, he is their captain.
 
The brexit result was what, 2% off?

This'll need to be around 17% off.

TBF a lot can change in two months, Brexit (nor the Scottish referendum) wasn't always that close. Not That I believe Corbyn will win mind you but when shit gets real opinions and thus polls can change.

NPR had a reporter on this morning to explain whats happening to American audiences and he just casually shat all over Corbyn.

If no one likes this dude why don't guys send him adrift on an iceberg?

We tried and failed.
 
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-39631792

yes, that's right Tories call the election due to polls saying you are in a commanding lead, the same polls that predicted Brexit would never happen.

hopefully, this means they lose and someone else gets in.

The polls did not say that about Brexit. The polls were right about Brexit. They all clustered around the same point, numerous polls had Brexit winning, and the result was well within the margin of error. It is a complete myth to say polling failed on Brexit.

The fact that a lot of us didn't actually think it would happen and deliberately ignored them or discredited them is a problem for us, not the polls.
 
David Davis has the smuggest, most hateful face of all of them, think I almost dislike him as much as Farage

To think at one point he was almost party leader - and for a brief time we all liked him as he took a,principled stance over civil liberties and government collection of data,
 
The polls did not say that about Brexit. The polls were right about Brexit. They all clustered around the same point, numerous polls had Brexit winning, and the result was well within the margin of error. It is a complete myth to say polling failed on Brexit.

The fact that a lot of us didn't actually think it would happen and deliberately ignored them or discredited them is a problem for us, not the polls.

No kidding!

Ah reading that page made me all nostalgic. Has it really only been a year?
 
This whole news caught me by surprise, not in the sense that it was completely out of nowhere, because you could see that May was setting up a snap election for ages. I'm just surprised it's so damn soon, I would have thought it would be one year from now.

In my area there's a very popular Labour MP standing (Steve Pound) who has been in my area for 25 years, it would be tough to shift him and I'm torn between voting Green or for whoever keeps the Tory and UKIPer out of government.
 
This whole news caught me by surprise, not in the sense that it was completely out of nowhere, because you could see that May was setting up a snap election for ages. I'm just surprised it's so damn soon, I would have thought it would be one year from now.

In my area there's a very popular Labour MP standing (Steve Pound) who has been in my area for 25 years, it would be tough to shift him and I'm torn between voting Green or for whoever keeps the Tory and UKIPer out of government.

Do his leaflets say "I'm going to take the Tories to Pound-Town"? Because if they don't, they should.
 
I feel parts of the discussion in this thread encapsulate the problem with the left. Very fragmented and detail oriented with no single 'hook'.

I think Labour need to present themselves clearly and proudly as the anti austerity party. Set out plans for public investment and spending. That is their best bet and the much needed balance required in the political discourse in the U.K. right now.
 
Theresa May and her election can F off. She'll steamroll the entire thing because of the weak opposition and the fact she can guarantee votes for the same reason that an abused spouse will stick with their significant other.

But I can't blame a scorpion for being true to its nature. It's the frog that carries that scorpion on its back across the river only to keep on getting stung that I blame.

The stupidity and shortsightedness of people voting against their own best interests keeps on astounding me.

But mark my words there is a growing divide in this country that will only keep on growing with every passing year... and we'll right this ship no matter how long it takes.
 
Hope she flips to voting Lib Dem! Great folks in that local party and there is absolutely no way the Tories are going places in Liverpool. It's either Corbyn's Labour or the Lib Dems.

(I am going to be insufferable for the next few weeks. Sorry.)

A Tory friend of mine gave a reporter in Liverpool the fright of her life when she asked him what he thought of the snap election. He was probably the only Tory she spoke with all day.
This city is never voting Tories lol. It's a very safe city for Labour.
 
Corbyn debating an empty chair will still lose.
Dramatic reenactment
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So does Corbyn go away after he loses? Maybe we should just bite the L and then regroup afterwards. It'll be a disaster regardless.

As previously brought up, uncertain. His base could dismiss it as being a particular problem of him, versus say, the time of the vote in relation to Brexit, how long he's held the job, so on.
 
Do his leaflets say "I'm going to take the Tories to Pound-Town"? Because if they don't, they should.

Ha! I should probably write to him and suggest that. Steve Pound has been good at responding to my letters and voted against Article 50 so he has endeared me a bit. I don't like the fact he supported the increasing surveillance state but there's a lot of pros as well as far as I could see.

God I hate voting tactically, can we have multiple choice please? Oh wait, we had the chance and we blew it. Stupid country.
 
The centre-left has to regroup and work to retake power under a competent leader. I may want to leave this country for the EU for the best interests of myself and any future children I might have but I will fight together with those that share my ideals, because it may not even work out and I may be forced to stay against my wishes because of lack of opportunities. Might as well create a country I actually want to live in.
 
It's worth remembering that however badly Labour performs in this election, it will only get worse afterwards, since the Boundary Commission reports in 2018. That's worth another 4 percentage points against Labour.
 
I hate to say it but May has played a blinder here. She destroys Labour and Corbyn in one swoop and she gets a large percentage of Scottish people to say fuck it to another Indy Ref and the SNP lose a lot of seats, protest style. The Tories then have an overwhelming majority at WM and can go for as hard a Brexit as they like.

Fuck.
 
This city is never voting Tories lol. It's a very safe city for Labour.

Yeah I know that his response to her was along the lines of "we'll take more seats from labour it can only be a good thing for the country" the reporter had obviously not been met with a response like this all day and it caught her by surprise
 
Labour MP Liz McInnes is getting a grilling on twitter for saying that Theresa May called this election today to ruin Liz's mum's funeral. Also used the funeral to gain political points.
 
Canadian here

Why is May calling for another election when she was elected last year? Is it like in Canada when there can be a motion of no-confidence when the governing party has a minority of deputies?
 
It's worth remembering that however badly Labour performs in this election, it will only get worse afterwards, since the Boundary Commission reports in 2018. That's worth another 4 percentage points against Labour.

THINGS

CAN ONLY GET BETTER

YOU CAN WALK MY PATH
 
Canadian here

Why is May calling for another election when she was elected last year? Is it like in Canada when there can be a motion of no-confidence when the governing party has a minority of deputies?

Because she was elected to head her party by her party, not as a part of a General Election, and this has been one of the criticisms levied at her in terms of political mandate (or lack thereof). Moreover, her limited majority in Parliament has made the threat of rebellion in her party a tangible one, while Labour's dreadfully low poll numbers suggest she could win several dozen - maybe more than a hundred - and in so doing basically be able to rule unopposed for the foreseeable future.
 
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